RIAA Starting June 26

Discussion in 'Computer Science & Culture' started by efallows, Jun 26, 2003.

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  1. efallows Registered Member

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    These are the ideas I gained from an article read out of msnbc...I can't believe what I see....


    WHAT: Starting tomorrow the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) will begin gathering evidence and preparing lawsuits against individual computer users who are illegally offering to “share” large amounts of copyrighted music over peer-to-peer networks.

    WHY: Stealing music over the Internet is no different than shoplifting CDs out of a record store. It’s wrong, and it’s against the law. It’s also a very public activity -- meaning that offenders can easily be identified. There are many legal and inexpensive alternatives to obtain music on the Internet.

    WHEN: Starting tomorrow, Thursday (June 26th), the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) will begin gathering evidence and preparing lawsuits against individual computer users who are illegally offering large amounts of copyrighted music over peer-to-peer networks. The RIAA expects to use the data it collects as the basis for filing what could ultimately be thousands of lawsuits charging individual peer-to-peer music distributors with copyright infringement. The first round of suits could take place as early as mid-August.

    WHO: The recording industry will be filing the lawsuits, with the support of a broad coalition of music community leaders.

    THE MESSAGE: The law is clear and the message to those who are distributing substantial quantities of music online should be equally clear: --- this activity is illegal, you are not anonymous when you do it, and engaging in it can have real consequences. There are many legal and inexpensive alternatives to obtain music on the internet.
     
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  3. Mitch1984 The Illest Registered Senior Member

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    Argh someone downloaded a file I'm not even sharing!!!

    IT was np-shares.html which was in my application support folder for liberty.

    I searched my HD for the file and found out it contains a list of what I'm sharing!!!

    I hope I got nada to worry about, the guy did download a music file after.
     
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  5. Sir Cecil Registered Senior Member

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    Makes me glad I only download pr0n

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  7. Mitch1984 The Illest Registered Senior Member

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    iPhoto's great for Pron slideshows!
     
  8. n0mmo Registered Senior Member

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    My question is this...

    Aren't the ISPs not allowed/supposed to link IP information with individual users? Without that info how can they RIAA prosecute?

    - Dan
     
  9. sublevel5 Registered Senior Member

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    A wonderful thing called the "Patriot Act" has taken away all our freedom/privacy

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  10. Uptown_Guy kindly miscreant Registered Senior Member

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    There's a famous case with Verizon trying like hell to stick up for it's customers.. they did NOT want to release names. But they lost something like 2-3 straight court cases and finally were forced to give up.

    The significance of this is really chilling because essentially all due process guarantees are thrown out the window by the DMCA. All the musick industry needs to do is ask and they get whatever they want. It's as simp-le as saying "we think IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is stealing our stuff, give us their name/address."

    NO PROBABLE CAUSE!

    The musick business gets powers that NO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY in the US have.
     
  11. sirinus Registered Member

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    ...meanwhile, on the other side of the pond.

    Does anyone have any insight as to what effect this will have on international users?

    The UK specificly, as while i'm aware this issue has gained a little coverege over here - I think many people are still unsure as to the effect in this 'step-up' in the battle - filetraders now face the same problem alot of tokers do, how seriously will the legal system take this? Are their any hurdles in the path to sueing us Brits?

    It may just be my choice in news site, but there seems to be very little reguarding the legal position in the UK.
     
  12. dukjunk39 Registered Member

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    The RIAA is watching you.

    Should you be concerned? Are there things file sharers can do to avoid being nabbed by the RIAA and their army of lawyers? Is this the end of file sharing as we know it?

    http://www.macobserver.com/article/2003/06/26.5.shtml

    Tune in next week to find out who gets pinch! Ouch!

    I'm off to the iTunes Music Store....
     
  13. jkish2 Classic Registered Senior Member

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    Was this sarcasm, or are you serious? Sorry, I can't tell from text for some reason. Anyway, how did someone download a music file from you if Liberty doesn't currently allow uploads?
     
  14. ZwiSter Registered Senior Member

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    Someone tried to download my itunes-songlist via Acquisition 0.94.

    I aborted after he/she got over 90% of it.

    I don't know why, but that person tried again, and didn't get it (I made sure of that).

    I'm glad, that I don't live in the USA.
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    1+1=?

    RIAA sux, USA sux, free world rules => USA x=x free world

    RIAA = a charecteristic of the "new" USA => USA is becoming a police state = USA sux

    free world = partial anarchy -> a little bit of anarchy is good

    USA = USSR returning ?
    USSR returning = bad = threat to all of us
    threat -> dispose of it = destroy/transform
    transformation of state = revolution -> progress
    revolution + usa = progress
     
  16. wanderlust Guru of Groove Registered Senior Member

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    Your iTunes song list is more than likely living in your music folder, which you are more than likely sharing.
     
  17. Jeremy Imagine Registered Senior Member

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    An MP3 file is not the same (bit for bit) as a commercial CD. So where is the theft? What about recording from an FM radio station? Most of the MP3 files I ever downloaded, I own the original music for anyway (tape/vinyl/CD). I consider MP3 files at best, a sample version.

    If I spend one hour building a box, should I expect royalties on it for it's entire life? Or should I be paid for the one hour? If someone sings for an hour (concert) sure they should be paid -for that hour. Can people like M. Jackson really justify how they deserve million after million? Why should we support a make work industry like the music industry. If technology eliminates the need for record stores, should we still financially support them?

    I still can't believe I have to pay a tax (Canada) on blank audio tapes to help the music industry recover losses from piracy (I have needed blank tapes and have NEVER duplicated a single song on one -does not seem right)

    I hope they do go to court and start really pissing people off. They may have opened a real pandora's box!
     
  18. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not going to comment too much on this since most boardies know my position. But I will say this -- wasn't Michael Jackson in favour of file sharing?? I mean I distinctly remember him saying something along the lines of file sharing being great.

    Jacksons a pretty cool guy who doesn't get that much credit. It's the money thirsty opportunists like Madonna or Metallica (M?) that need to be kicked in the balls. But who the hell downloads their music anyways? Those people deserve to be thrown in jail.

    You might (somehow) label me a hypocrite for saying so, but if I were a musician, than I'd only want money for my live performances or merchandise. Free distribution in digital format is fine. Money for a Super audio CD or something might also be nice, but only because of the medium. High quality stuff, right?
     
  19. wanderlust Guru of Groove Registered Senior Member

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    Madonna...kicked in the balls...nice. I hate that freak of a human being. I was a disk jockey on CHR, AOR and AC stations for five years. I never played one of her songs. Ever. Wow, I really detest that person.
     
  20. blob.DK Registered Senior Member

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    This file is *not* on my computer. Exactly where was it ? Give a complete path, please. Which folders are you sharing ?

    If Liberty and/or Acquisition is sharing *anything* not allowed by you, then we all got serious problems ! Can you or anyone verify this ?
     
  21. orange144 Guest

    File transfers security... and DATA ENCRYPTION!

    Alright, guys, we're going to be safely sharing music in the next months/years. Don't worry.

    Dave, do you know much of the Gnutella-OpenFT... networks. Is there any project to make them *secure*, I mean, by using data encryption ?
    If we share encrypted data, noone can tell it's copyrigthed music. Even the RIAA. And I'm quite sure it's not a major technical problem. So guys don't worry about getting tons of free music on the net.

    (And my opinion too is that “music is not property", so sharing it is not stealing it.)

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  22. Bachus Registered Senior Member

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    Really? And where would I be able to get that inexpensive music? Here you pay € 20 for a cd (if your lucky)
     
  23. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    iteresting, how do they plan to get into my pc?
     
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