Oniw17
01-29-07, 11:10 PM
Who are the potential presidential candidates at teh moment?
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View Full Version : Question Oniw17 01-29-07, 11:10 PM Who are the potential presidential candidates at teh moment? Genji 01-29-07, 11:19 PM Who are the potential presidential candidates at teh moment? Democratic Side: Hillary Clinton Barak Obama John Edwards Joseph Lieberman Republic Side: Sam Brownback Newt Gingrich Bill Frist Rudolf Giuliani Not all have formally announced but this is where all the money is. (Lieberman poses as a Dem but is really a neocon. He's an independent.) madanthonywayne 01-29-07, 11:34 PM You forgot Mitt Romney on the Republican side. Oniw17 01-29-07, 11:36 PM No independents are running? Genji 01-29-07, 11:43 PM No independents are running?Lieberman for the far Right and probably Nader for the centrists. madanthonywayne 01-29-07, 11:54 PM Nader is a centrist. LOL. His partie's website calls for the nationalization of the fortune five hundred! And Lieberman is also a leftist, except on foriegn policy. Oniw17 01-29-07, 11:56 PM And Lieberman is also a leftist, except on foriegn policy. I thought left and right just had to do with the free market? madanthonywayne 01-30-07, 12:08 AM I thought left and right just had to do with the free market? Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action. Genji 01-30-07, 01:33 AM Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action.BS. Vietnam was ordered by JFK and intensified by LBJ. WW2 was entered under Roosevelt. Korea: Truman. Wrong again madant. That's what you get for listening to am radio phoenix2634 01-30-07, 05:20 AM Democrats: Official--Christopher Dodd John Edwards Mike Gravel Dennis Kucinich Tom Vilsack Announced(haven't filed paper with FEC) --Joe Biden Hillary Rodham Clinton Exploratory Committees --Barack Obama Bill Richardson Republicans: Official -- Sam Brownback John Cox Duncan Hunter Exploratory--Jim Gilmore Rudy Giuliani Mike Huckabee John McCain Ron Paul Mitt Romney Tom Tancredo Tommy Thompson As for third parties, according to Third Party Watch, Joesph Lieberman will eventually announce who he will endorse. He has no plans to run. Ralph Nader's name doesn't surface for the Green Party or any other party at this time. There are various other potential candidates. For more information go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008 Hope this helps. :D Roman 01-30-07, 09:30 AM Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action. The Clinton administration did more for free trade than anything Junior's done, ever. Neocons aren't pro-free market, they're pro-business, and big business at that. Genji 01-30-07, 06:46 PM Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action.Conservatives and libertarians are also opposed to US military adventurism overseas. How will we pay for our first losing wars? Shall we clean up our deficit before building a new trillion dollar one? Reason for reluctance in endorsing war on countries Israel fears? We don't win! The US should require that before we invade any one else we first win the first 2 wars. Then PAY for them. Then raise taxes to pay for their 3rd war. THAT would greatly slow the armchair hawks from bankrupting our country and creating a far more unstable world. Genji 01-30-07, 06:49 PM The Clinton administration did more for free trade than anything Junior's done, ever. Neocons aren't pro-free market, they're pro-business, and big business at that.Clinton isn't "Left." He's a conservative centrist. Pro death penalty, against legalization of :m: supports restrictions on abortion, supports anti union legislation (Right to Work) he's a baptist and opposes gay marriage. Hardly a Leftist. Oniw17 01-30-07, 06:55 PM So what does left and right mean? Genji 01-30-07, 07:00 PM So what does left and right mean?Like a political ruler: The far left side is communism. The left of center is liberal and progressives. Center are the spineless moderates that have no convictions, right of center are conservatives, further right are neocons and then liberatrians. The far right of the ruler is fascism. madanthonywayne 01-30-07, 10:34 PM BS. Vietnam was ordered by JFK and intensified by LBJ. WW2 was entered under Roosevelt. Korea: Truman. Wrong again madant. That's what you get for listening to am radio Obviously, my statement only applies to Democrats since Vietnam. Prior to that, politics stopped at the water's edge. Since then, the Left has consistently opposed US military action, military spending, and anything related to the military. madanthonywayne 01-30-07, 10:40 PM Like a political ruler: The far left side is communism. The left of center is liberal and progressives. Center are the spineless moderates that have no convictions, right of center are conservatives, further right are neocons and then liberatrians. The far right of the ruler is fascism. Well put. You might also throw in the origin of the terms. In the national assembly prior to the French revolution thost in favor of the monarchy (conservatives) sat on the right side of the aisle while the radicals who wanted to overthrow the monochary sat on the left. Ever since then, conservatives have been described as "The Right" and liberals have been described as "The Left". Genji 01-30-07, 10:49 PM Obviously, my statement only applies to Democrats since Vietnam. Prior to that, politics stopped at the water's edge. Since then, the Left has consistently opposed US military action, military spending, and anything related to the military.See my Pat Buchanan article in the politics fora. Maybe Vietnam taught us imperial warmongering doesn't pay off? Just costs billions and takes lives and you still lose? Conservatives, Libertarians. liberals and Leftists are opposed to the Bush wars. There is no benefit to the US by destabilizing entire regions of the world for nothing. For little Saddam's head? After Rummy shook his hand and aided him in using chemical weapons on Iranian troops and civilians? Oh THAT'S the kind of WMDS we like. This was 2 years after the Kurds tasted Iraqi chemical weapons, made by Dow. Yes. Oppose foreign adventurism and foreign quagmires and use the military to defend the USA. You want more war? How will we pay for the first two losing wars? Tax hike is obvious. Now we know you aren't a conservative OR libertarian, but a neocon hawk willing to bankrupt the nation and build an axis from our ever increasing enemies by behaving as Rome did in her final decades. The epitome of unwashed arrogance. Genji 01-30-07, 10:50 PM Well put. You might also throw in the origin of the terms. In the national assembly prior to the French revolution thost in favor of the monarchy (conservatives) sat on the right side of the aisle while the radicals who wanted to overthrow the monochary sat on the left. Ever since then, conservatives have been described as "The Right" and liberals have been described as "The Left".I wasn't aware of that. |