View Full Version : Q!!! Getting banned by a Forum / Dynamic IP


Zero
03-19-03, 08:58 PM
I have a question. If you get banned by a forum/mboard, will dynamic IP allow you to continue accessing it without being recognized?

How exactly does dynamic IP work?

And how do you get past being banned by a forum?

Weiser_Dub
03-19-03, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Zero
And how do you get past being banned by a forum?

Well, well, well, trying to get back into my forum are you? Too bad, you're banned. Forever. There is no getting past it. Well, wait a minute, maybe if you never got banned in the first place... but you're banned. :D

Zero
03-19-03, 09:08 PM
No, not yours. It's some stupid site you would never think of running.

Weiser_Dub
03-19-03, 09:10 PM
I beg to differ. :D Have you seen my last few posts?

Zero
03-19-03, 09:11 PM
Look, I am serious. I want to get back in there for reasons of my own. Either answer my question or fuck off.

Weiser_Dub
03-19-03, 09:15 PM
Look, I am serious. You want to get back in there but you screwed up. Your question has been answered. Oh, and what were those last two words?

Persol
03-19-03, 09:22 PM
Just go to a friends house or a public library and access it. Depending on how annoying you were, they may have blocked 1 IP, or a bank of them. Only way to find out is to check.

Dr Lou Natic
03-19-03, 09:23 PM
As far as I know you can get back into mbs you've been banned from by changing your e-mail address, but I don't know anything about "dynamic IP" soooooo yeah.... sorry for wasting your time.

Xev
03-20-03, 12:12 AM
Dynamic IP - yes, you can keep registering, and keep registering, and keep registering - at least until they wise up to you.

Not like I've ever done anything like that. :D

Microzoft
03-20-03, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by Zero
I have a question. If you get banned by a forum/mboard, will dynamic IP allow you to continue accessing it without being recognized?
How exactly does dynamic IP work?
And how do you get past being banned by a forum? If you tell me the forum I’ll send you a solution!:m:

Zero
03-20-03, 05:57 AM
It's www.sugarquill.net I happen to be a big HP fan so I hung around there for a while...

Sheesh! All I did was start a thread to declare that the censorship there was disgusting. No four letter words! And it's so true, it IS disgusting.

Microzoft
03-20-03, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Zero
It's www.sugarquill.net I happen to be a big HP fan so I hung around there for a while...

Sheesh! All I did was start a thread to declare that the censorship there was disgusting. No four letter words! And it's so true, it IS disgusting. Check your PM for instructions.

Please try to follow the rules as indicated by Sugar Quill forum, they are very strict and if you can not follow, I’ll suggest that you shouldn’t try to use it.
I’m not here to help you for revenge but to give a second chance. Don’t waste it.
:m:

Stryder
03-20-03, 02:53 PM
Dynamic IP allocation usually follows at least 1 or 2 Class B ranges. Which means a single ban of a Class B range stops the individual thats being banned from using that particular ISP.

This also means that anyone from that ISP that had nothing to do with it also suffers.

If a person really wanted to get around being banned from this method, then just switch your ISP to something else, which would give you a whole new range.

How ever blocking your ISP is just one method of banning someone, another version is using the E-mail address method.
(Like no duplicate e-mail address or whole domains of e-mail addresses being banned)

This is away around not banning an entire block, but the person banning has to get use to what a person inputs as an e-mail address.

There is also a way to ban by browser type (if the board owner codes it so) but this means anyone with an identical setup will be banned.

There is a way that doesn't always work, Banning by Netbios.
Getting your computer name and network name, extremely useful for banning an individual computer based on name, or a whole network (incases of say a University or College).

This one doesn't always work though because it requires having access to requests to particular ports that nowadays are blocked by firewalls.

One last method that I'm sure has never been implimented, Ban by Portscan Analysis. Basically you get scanned, if you don't match or do match you can get bounced. I'm not going to explain that one though because it's not implimented in board designs.

Zero
03-20-03, 04:10 PM
So if my IP address has been banned, how do I get around that?

Voodoo Child
03-21-03, 03:14 AM
Use a proxy.

eg.

normally:

http://www.whatismyip.com

but with megaproxy:

https://www.megaproxy.com/_enter/index.jsp?mpurl=www.whatismyip.com

Doing so would be the signature of a lamer, though. Take a hint.

Voodoo Child
03-21-03, 03:41 AM
or configure your browser to use a non-web one.

195.144.130.1 port 3128 //gives your ip as 195.144....

Stryder
03-21-03, 06:29 AM
Usually though all you need is one person to mess a proxy up and the proxy range gets banned.

spuriousmonkey
03-21-03, 07:12 AM
so you could use this to get other people banned? interesting...

ElectricFetus
03-21-03, 12:36 PM
I am still on a forum that I have been band from twice! First for starting a political argument on a computer graphics card forum. and then I got kick again a day after reregistering because my Ip is static and the admins are trigger happy. then after getting my Ip change (its not really static but stay the same for several weeks on my wireless LAN network) I got on again but by then I found this forum and had no need for the first... so I just go back there to steal emotcons http://www.guru3d.com/forum/images/smilies/lsvader.gif

personally for the best computer advice go to tomshardware forum. :)

spookz
03-21-03, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Stryderunknown

One last method that I'm sure has never been implimented, Ban by Portscan Analysis. Basically you get scanned, if you don't match or do match you can get bounced. I'm not going to explain that one though because it's not implimented in board designs.

stryder

i think some irc servers iniate a scan for (wingate or another process) on your box. if found, the connection is terminated. am i correct?

Stryder
03-21-03, 02:59 PM
Spookz

I'm not 100% sure but it could very well work like that, I know that there are ones that make sure you have a direct connection with the system any proxies in the telemetry and it bounces you.

I really came up with the scan one, I'm thinking of writing it for perhaps my server, should be kind of fun, I could rig some ports to serve identies that run with a specific sum, if it's not correct, your bounced. (and every time a port in the range is scanned it's sequence changes)

Zero
03-21-03, 06:04 PM
Then what is a way to get round forum banning? Change IP, is that it? Will invisibility/anonymity proxies work?

fafalone
03-21-03, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Zero
So if my IP address has been banned, how do I get around that?

Get a new IP address.

(most ISPs will assign you a new IP if you can make up a decent reason)

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http://www.scienceforums.net

Zero
03-21-03, 07:52 PM
Like what? "I think someone is trying to hack me"? How long does it take for the stupid tunes to stop on the phone???

I'm wondering if there is any other way.

Voodoo Child
03-21-03, 09:09 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatismyip.com&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Google's German--> English translation

Zero
03-22-03, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Voodoo Child
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whatismyip.com&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Google's German--> English translation

What's that for???

Voodoo Child
03-22-03, 08:32 PM
Goes via google server, shows their IP not yours.

ElectricFetus
03-22-03, 08:42 PM
Why would you want to know their ip?

http://www.lawrencegoetz.com/programs/ipinfo/

Persol
03-22-03, 09:01 PM
I think the point was that you can view a page which is blocked by putting it through a translator.. but you still couldn't post. Your options are to:
change your IP
apologize
get a proxy server

ChildOfTheMind
03-31-03, 09:39 PM
Actually Vodoo Child is absolutley correct, I had to do that once, if you have a X0BOX flash the bios chip then use Flash FXP to find out what your X-box's Ip adress is, use your X-BOX IP adress, which is like uncrackable, and unblockable because It is Microsofts' personal