What if you gave an ape a small dose of Psylicyben? Especially one of those apes that can do sign language. It would have a "mystical experience" of some kind. ::shrug:
The substance you are referring to is psilocybin. In humans psilocybin acts as an agonist at serotonin receptors in the brain. It will almost certainly be able to act in the same fashion in apes due to the pharmacological similarity. However apes to not have the same cognitive abilities as humans so I would imagine that it is not possible to extrapolate the psychotropic effects experienced by humans to those experienced by an ape.
maybe the great ape will stop to wonder. But probably it will get hungry and stumble around for the duration of its trip. An ape has what they call primary consciousness, but I doubt they have the ability to sit down and meditate for 15 minutes. People like Terence McKenna believe that humans exist without a binding to their physiological makeup. Like you could puff some DMT and unlock all the secrets in the universe. Apes taking psychedelics is profoundly interesting, but for mystical experiences to occur, the brain must already have that potential.
Why would you want to do something like that to an animal that has no ability to control what you are doing to it or understand why you are doing such a stupid thing to it. Would you enjoy it if they came by and injected you with something that is unknown to you to see what you would do? Imagine having 200 micro grams of LSD injected into your body just to see what you would be able to "see" in a "mystical" experience, if you've never experienced that before. Giving anything to animals just to see what happens is very stupid and could be harmful as well so this , to me, isn't a very smart idea.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
If you were an animal, would you rather be a guinea pig for an unknown chemical like psilocybin or be raised and killed in a slaughter house?
I'd rather be left the fuck alone with, thank you. Eat vegetables! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
You know many scientists hold that to be just what ancient man, protohuman even, did. In foraging they ingested psychoactive substances and first perceived the world outside of the ego shell. This lead to creative advances in survival tactics over time, and an awareness of something larger than themrselves. The awareness of God.
An ape would probably have a similar trip experience as a human would. Interestingly, Chimpanzees have a phobia about mushrooms and will not eat them on purpose, not even ones in zoos.
C'mon who told you that. Where did you first read that idea. Did you come up with it yourself? I'm asking because it is such a bold claim. There is no avoiding the truth - it's a cool belief. Apes eating mushrooms and sort of 'leveling up.' It's a bit like the chicken and the egg, which came first. You first need the physiological brain to create potential for mystical-experiences. For instance if a certain part of the brain is damaged, you might lose this ability. But why did such an ability arise? Perhaps the ape/shaman tribes were getting an advantage over the others? Speaking in terms of evolution, how do support your belief?
I think that theory is compelling. Low doses of psylocybin increase visual acuity, which can help with hunting. This would have stimulated culture and invention, as well as increase protein intake, which in turn would encourage development and selection of larger brains.
When a person takes mushrooms of that sort, it causes the brain to swell. Now, knowing the way the human body (and many a ape body) tends to adapt, the compression of the brain may initiate something in the body to cause the brain to rebuild its neuro pathways in a more compressed manner. Maybe alot like advancing computer chip science, more and more compact.... Perhaps even a small amount of this may happen over generations of apes eating mushrooms. That's just a guess/hypothesis. Funny thing is, I came up with this theory then did a google and some one had already thought if it years ahead of me. For the most part I agree, but on the other hand, monkeys could easily stumble upon a patch of mushrooms in the forestation and eat them, just as easily as it could happen in a laboratory. :shrug: Which is why I would suggest a very minute dose to get things started.
the ape wont know he was taking the substance. therefore awareness will not be a factor. this is a crucial.
It may be possible that generations of mushroom eating apes could have a slight increase in intelligence... on the other hand, if an ape ate too many of them....
If a brain detects that it may be in danger, such as with the weak poison of psilocybe.... it may be possible that the compression of the brain may destroy neuro pathways, but in some case the brain may try to compensate and thus rebuild it's neuropathways in a denser manner. Fun to think about anyway Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
