Didn't know what topic to put this in, as you can tell. How could i easily judge...
What is meant by the title is Psych= the psychology section(s)
Thought=Freeee thoughts
Etc= ..etc

Now, my question is, daily, or "seccondly", how is it that you go about living in the day, the time, the seccond? The objective is to pour out your thoughts about you, and only you, (maybe your ideas for this as well, but still you the same) and how you live. How do you live? Do you live to improve, and at the time, how do you feel?

Hate life?

Love life?

You begin to see my point.

Perhaps this should rather be in the psychology section, but I choose the free thoughts. I guess the goal again is to tell us how you live your life by the details described above. But I will try go describe further, stay tuned (as the news says)....

Here is a short description of "something":

I try to live.. I have a problem. I am trying to live how I should. Someone will come knock on my door, and I am freaked. So this is apparently a huge problem when I can't be with people. But now I am at my parents house. I came back here so I could get away from that frightening life style. I am here "trying." ... I am wondering how others go about living. How you live...

Can someone answer me this: is there something in peoples "core" (of them selfs) which stops them up, which "is themselfs"?

I think you won't be able to judge heads or tails from this post.

If you can't, just give any replys to any of this. I will respond appropriately.

---EB

[i may edit this first post.. This thread is sort of important to me, if you can't tell.....]

Well, I guess it kind of sounds like you want to know what "normal" is like, since I've read lots of your other posts telling us how you have some "problems". Anyway, it's kind of hard describing how I live, as it's not really something I conciously (sp?) think about.

I live life to live life. I'm not one of those "if it feels good do it" kind of people, and I'm constantly educating myself. I study critical thinking like it's my last day alive. But I also have a social life. I play several musical instruments, play in several bands, and I also play alot of sports. So I'm a pretty social, busy guy. As I said earlier, it's a little hard to pinpoint exactly how I live. I don't have a problem with doing the "right thing". Don't ask me why, but I think it has a lot to do with my upbringing and the rules my parents have unwaveringly put in place.

I live to improve, of course. I live to improve my skills, my social life, my intelligence, my knowlege of the world around, and I live to gain more life applicable skills.

I don't exactly know how to describe how I "feel". Maybe you could emphasize your definition of "feel". Most of the time I just feel normal. I find humor in life, and enjoy hanging out with people. I'm a people person.

Anyway, it's kind of hard to describe how I feel when I don't think I'm feeling anything. Hope this helped a little.

AmishRakeFight

You're asking us how we live life by the second?
eek.
Beats me. I'm not usually thinking/worrying about any one thing.
my "brain" jumps from subject to subject. I may be thinking about thinking, then something I thought reminds me of what a friend said (like the other day when my friend said my "brain jumps", that's why I used that term), and then another thing, etc.
One example of this was one time I was walking back from school and I saw a black feather. That made me think of a dead squirrel I had seen a while back. Then I thought of how i'd like to dissect a squirrel. Then about a bunch of other things, until I was thinking about how easy it would be to kill somoene, and then I started thinking about why I was thinking about killing someone.
I traced it back to the little black feather.
so how do I think? my brain jumps from subject to subject, and it often comes back to the very same place it started. Like right now. lol.

lol Yeah, same here. I usually can't stay occupied with one thing unless I'm actually thinking about it. If I'm just milling around or hanging out, my mind wanders aimlessly. I usually have a soundtrack going on in my head, also. I ALWAYS have a song stuck in my head.

AmishRakeFight

oh, and asking me to analyze myself is pretty pointless. I suck at it. I really do.
something will happen and i'll be like gee, i'm patient. Then I'll remember a bunch of times when i wasn't patient so I'll be like... gee... i'm so not patient. But then again... i am patient... well... maybe not...
that's me right there. I can never come to any kind of conclusion about msyelf, except that i'm curious, lazy, etc.
and I am TOTALLY different online than i'm in real life. It's like I have two main personalities. the online one, and the real life one. And then I have mini-personalities for each person, etc. I'm different with each one of my friends, etc.
In real life i'm really quiet, and everyone keeps reminding me that... online I can't stop talking. In real life i am pretty stupid, online i'm ... not... as...much.
in real life i don't have very many friends and frankly don't care, online I also don't have many friends but I have a few very damn good ones and do care.
it's weird i'm telling ya.

Thanks!
I am going to respond, just not right now. I need time....

---EB

I usually can't stay occupied with one thing unless I'm actually thinking about it. If I'm just milling around or hanging out, my mind wanders aimlessly. I usually have a soundtrack going on in my head, also. I ALWAYS have a song stuck in my head.
I mostly have music stuck on my head. I really suck at remembering lyrics. Or it may be like a broken record, playing the same three or four seconds of the same song, since I don't remember the rest. LOL No matter how many times i hear it, I just can't keep the lyrics in very long.
I CAN focus very intently on one thing and stay at it for a long time though. Like when taking tests, watching movies, reading books, etc, I get so into them I totally forget everything else. And one thing I hate about watching (good) movies is it's so damn hard when they end. It's hard to get out of the movie if you know what I mean.
And in real life, like if I'm waiting for someone or if I'm in school or something, I can stay still for like forever and just do nothing. In that sense I'm very patient.
oh, I also catch myself staring off into the distance a lot, or loosing track of time, etc. I guess I'm kinda absent-minded.
And in real life it's like... it's NOT real life. Well, in public anyway. In public I just kind of forget I exist and it's kind of like I'm just watching a movie. I never expect people to talk to me... It's like if you go to the movies and then one of the characters suddenly looks at you and is like "hey ___", you'd probably be like "huh?" lol

... yeah, i'm weird.

Good thread, existabrent. Sounds like we may have some things in common.

This is going to be a mind blowing post. Litterally.
First, it's cool to hear you guys. Good to meet you. Thanks for saying it's a cool thread. It is actually my favoriate one yet. In it i hope to get some answers to vip questions, such as:

Can someone answer me this: is there something in peoples "core" (of them selfs) which stops them up, which "is themselfs"?
When I said this. I mean a lot. I know it's probably not relevant to real life, the existentialists for example would ban me. But I think they leaving it out... I think it is an aspect I would like to know what it is, and no one yet has answered me what it is.

When I say "the existentialists would ban me", really I'm sure you caught on to that it is you guys, who would ban me, .. if I was living with you. ha! Yeah, you'd be like, Brent, it may be real what you're thinking, but you need to drop it. What am I thinking? This is another aspect to the thread....

The favoriate part of the thread to me, is that I too get to tell how I live. If I get to meet you, you get to meet me :eek: :)

So therefore, I will continue to talk about how I life first and its relation, and then go a little farther.

I sit here day on end at my parents house wondering---how the hell, ... yeah, how the hell?? The moment for me, is strange to say the least, the very least. When someone will come in to the same room as me, know what? Guess what i'll tell you. Same would happen if you were to meet me in real life. I'm sure it'd be "ok" for the first short while, but not really... When my dad for example (i have described this at another thread) comes in the room, it is like I am mr critical. Don't get the wrong impression... I am "critical", but I am not. What do i mean? I mean that I don't want to be how I am, I am trying to be myself. So. I really wouldn't call myself critical, is what I mean. Am trying to say. Infact, I know myself really well. I'm 20 yrs old. I have a firm knowledge of most philosophy, yet, that may well be the problem. Who knows. I just want to 'be' myself. What am I getting to?

I don't exactly know how to describe how I "feel". Maybe you could emphasize your definition of "feel". Most of the time I just feel normal. I find humor in life, and enjoy hanging out with people. I'm a people person.
I hope this post isn't too long. I'm going to respond to this from AmishRakeFight.
It should be obvious what I mean. Stupid, maybe, maybe even not stupid, who knows? What's stupid? Stupid, the quote. Like when you say "i don't exactly know how to describe how I "feel". Well, what do I mean? What am I trying to do? I first am trying to keep the thread going! How each of us lives. "At moment?" you ask? I simply am wondering, as you said AmishRakeFight, "what normal is". What is normal? What is it in my head that is so different than you guys? At moment? Is what I am wondering about. I'm sure that in you guys head you live life from day to day--enjoy life. Try to self improve. Yet you still at moment have this thing in your head, ... what is this?

Did I answer any thing of what you guys ask? I need criticism, yet we haven't got to the point where we can honestly define what we should be being critical about. This thread is similar to mental health and the existentialists now that I think about it, but in a different, cooler way, maybe.

---EB;)

cottontop:

Perhaps so. You are lucky though to have the comfort of freedom from your thoughts. imo. I'm trying to achieve that, but I can't seem to. That's why life is bothering the hell out of me!

Did I say something somewhere that made you think I have freedom from my thoughts? If so, I didn't mean to. They are always present and non-stop, and I know how infuriating that can be. ;)

Interesting. What I mean then by freedom of thoughts is that you are ABLE to be around people. Able to have the freedom, at least from what I go through. :) (is in person with cotton top*** runs away ***)

:) Mind telling me what you are suffering from? Maybe I can understand better.

a fellow crazy person though is always a team when i think of myself in comparison with hitler. to the philosophic world, domination of every idea

in-ability-to-be-around-any-people. period. but the reason is different, maybe

I want to know the reason, but not if you don't feel comfortable talking about it.

alright, give me a sec

really, unable even to talk online.

POSTED BY QQ FROM MENTAL HEALTH AND THE EXISTENTIALISTS: 2

OK, this is what I see;

I see an addiction at work. An addiction is the compulsion to derive pleasure from somethng that may be counter productive to your own well being. Addictions can take many forms and are cravings that require fulfilment.

In the realms of mental health there are many psychological addictions. Usually an addiction forms when someone is behaving in a way that compensates for a lacking in their lives. This may be a lacking of acknowledgement as a person, or as an indovidual, or as a person who needs affection and love because they live isolated due to other reasons.

It seems the desire to have an impact on others or to be considered as significant by others is primary [ to have a meaning and purpose]. This being due to the fact that they are dealing with the strong and overwhelming feeling that they are being constantly ignored or over looked.

A bit like walkng through a shopping mall and no one notices you even exist, or constantly being overlooked for that promotion at work etc.

So what happens is that the ignored person will behave in a way that guarrantees attentiion, thus neutralising the sense of extreme isolation they feel.
However what normally happens is that people just try to ignore the person even more, and as the cycle builds in amplitude it eventually becomes necessary for drastic action to be taken in the form of police involvement to maintain public security.


So what I see is behaviour that is compensating for a lacking of something.

Now it is what is lacking that needs to be discovered and resolved if the compensating behaviour is to be brought back to normal levels. [ we all act in compensatory ways as a part of "normal" life it is just that for some it is more extreme]

It is however made even more difficult to resolve because it involves an addiction to the pleasure achieved through dysfunction. A bit like scratching a mosquito bite until you remove layers of skin and the pleasure becomes pain.

So the pleasure of the addiction, drives the show. The "lacking" provides the envorionment for the pleasure perversion.

The addiction being caused innitially by compensatory behaviour for something that is lacking in a persons life.

So a cycle of behaviour developes that reinforces the addiction by sustaining the need.

For example your addiction will keep you away from "normal" relationships because the addiction requires your isolation to promote the pleasure that is being offered. Thus creating the need [ suffering ] and supplying the solution [ pleasure ].

Normally this cycle of suffering and relief of suffering [ pleasure] is able to be sustained in ways that are productive, however in persons challenged this cycle of "pluffering" as I call it can become very extreme.

Buddhism can offer certain insights into this human pheno. And offer certain solutions also.

Maybe that is an areas of philosophy you need to investigate?

however, there is bits that I dis-agree with, yet i agree mostly with the entire post...

it sums up my problem fairly well saying i need isolation, have some problem, can't handle long term relationships, or really "any" relationships. that i am not good at talking. that he suggests i am going to be able to over come it

etc etc

really, unable even to talk online.
well u cant talk online if ya aint got a speaker.
http://students.washington.edu/goldkey/images/gk05/laughing%20weird%20on%20salt%20lake%20flight.jpg
...sorry...seems like I need a psych. analysis myself

thanks man

i would visit that thread.

there is a lot wrong with me. not sure if i have offically a "psychological disorder", though. i once was diagnosed as schizoaffective disorder, depressed type also generalized anxiety disorder, though I believe the latter to be FALSE !

that's likely, dragon ;)

you know why people feel depressed? Because they are alone and life feels like **** or there is no life? no.... because people do not do in this life what they were meant to do...and that is to learn and educate themselves.

if u were refering that to me, learn and educate myself, trust me i have tried. you don't have to believe me if u don't want to.

if u were refering that to me, learn and educate myself, trust me i have tried. you don't have to believe me if u don't want to.

well then try more...do something beneficial to society...if what you do for society doesnt benefit you then you are doing something wrong

bla, bla bla. same crap over every never ending.

a major goal of this topic, actually, was to find out what it is in this sort that makes it, although i would be "doing something wrong", dragon, still, this thing is in all people. i have been wondering of a story to contridict or whatever socrates/platos alegory of the cave. i think it's bull brains

but you must be right. how can i expect everyone not to live? ha. i am mostly talking to myself, etc

Can someone answer me this: is there something in peoples "core" (of them selfs) which stops them up, which "is themselfs"?
I'm not sure if this is what you meant but...
I kind of think a person is born with a "default" personality (quiet, active, whatever), which is coded for in it's genes. Then that default personality is molded by external things, and also internal changes (like puberty and whatnot). That default personality is always changing. Then, there are also moods, which are temporary changes in personalty.
So in a way there is, in a way there isn't.
Am trying to say. Infact, I know myself really well.
"Only the shallow know themselves. " -Oscar Wilde
lol... sorry... just HAD to say that.
in-ability-to-be-around-any-people. period.
Maybe you just have social anxiety disorder (but of course I'm no phsychiatrist) I think I also have SAD a little... I don't really like being around people. I like being by myself. I HATE having to present in front of class, long conversations, etc. And I am very critical... even more so than online :-P
There IS medication for SAD btw.
it sums up my problem fairly well saying i need isolation, have some problem, can't handle long term relationships, or really "any" relationships. that i am not good at talking. that he suggests i am going to be able to over come it
Exactly. to my untrained ear that sounds exactly like SAD, and like me really... not as bad, but yeah.

bla, bla bla. same crap over every never ending.....ha i am mostly talking to myself, etc

you got humor man, I like that.

thanks guys. Lone wolfer, i'd refer u 2 mental health and the existentialists:2. I don't believe I have a SAD disorder. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder, though. Also schizoaffective disorder, though they are absolutely false... IMO ;)

Dragon, that made my day I do believe.

It is nice to meet you guys.

I sorta do like this thread. It is really cool. I only wish I could come to explain what is really imo the primary of the thread. And that is what lone wolf above has quoted from me, though it is also explained in more detail somewhere else.

lol, lone wolf. No wonder I'm the alpha, there's nobody else around. ROFLMAO.
I don't think you have schizoaffective disorder either, unless you have hallucinations/delusions/etc :P

Dragon, seems like you man are the one who gets all the girls.

I am ... whats the word. .. .. .. .. .. .. JELEOUS. Thats it ;)

no, actuallly my problem is being discussed currently in the mental health thread. serious, if u r interested, go there & see me make a fool of myself. page 3 is really where its starting to heat up. or maybe the end of page 2 hell idon't remember

not alone, neither, dragon.

lol. Yeah, there's the edit button btw.
I really don't know much about mental health.

The thread is rather a councelor trying to fix my problem.