Which one should I get? What has the best games, which one is worth it?

Xbox 360

I am willing to spend what ever amount as long as it is the right one.

I am willing to spend what ever amount as long as it is the right one.

I heard more voices on Xbox 360 as better game syste.

Can the xbox 360 play dvds?

of course it can...ps3 has no good games and is way too expensive considering it failed to deliver on its graphical superiority to 360

How about HD dvds? I like the ps3 because of its Blue-ray capabilities, but I think now I have 3 good reasons to turn over to the Xbox 360: Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3!

From a gamer...:

Ps3 huh? We all know Ps2 was the greatest system ever created... right? Anyway... it had the best games. The best delivery. It was the greatest system.

Xbox? The x box blowed.

The ps3 has superior graphic capability to the x box 360. It also has a blue-ray player or whatever. It is the better system on these terms alone. The xbox360 has good graphics also, but not AS good. Both systems play the previous systems games.

So when you consider these facts, you would say that it depends upon the future and ones outlook towards the systems. ... If you are looking to buy one of these systems, you will undoubtedly think about these things.

The Ps3 is a great system and surely will create better games, it is a matter of the future. I like the Xbox360 as I own one and like the current games that it has.

That is about all I can say.

Xbox 360

PS2 was no where near as good as Xbox, and the same is true for the PS3.

I own a 360, and I don't regret buying it either.

360. I counting down to halo3!

From a gamer...:

Ps3 huh? We all know Ps2 was the greatest system ever created... right? Anyway... it had the best games. The best delivery. It was the greatest system.

Xbox? The x box blowed.

The ps3 has superior graphic capability to the x box 360. It also has a blue-ray player or whatever. It is the better system on these terms alone. The xbox360 has good graphics also, but not AS good. Both systems play the previous systems games.



Then why is the current best looking game for 360? and why is Ps3 losing licesne exclusivity to 360?
Answer, because the ps3 suffered from poor marketing and too high a cost, noone wants to pay $600 (now $500) for a ps3 when they can get a 360 or 360 elite for $349 or $469, Why pay more when all the same games will be on a cheaper system with the same graphical abilities

Then why is the current best looking game for 360? and why is Ps3 losing licesne exclusivity to 360?
Answer, because the ps3 suffered from poor marketing and too high a cost, noone wants to pay $600 (now $500) for a ps3 when they can get a 360 or 360 elite for $349 or $469, Why pay more when all the same games will be on a cheaper system with the same graphical abilities

Current best looking game is probably oblivion for the ps3, or (although there is slight difference, the graphics are improved), I don't know which best game you're talking about but in terms of games, ps3 is going to have better graphics for games. Better ability to play better games.

Definately, if ps3 loses it's interest due to the above (which I would not be sure about myself...), then 360 obviously is the better system. That doesn't mean it is though, unless you can prove the point that the ps3 is going to plummit. I don't personally, believe that it will.

And. The Wii (wee) is an incredible system for the family. I feel (although am not positive) that it is losing it's interest. Great system, less graphic ability, very fun games and made by nintendo.

That's my take on the current 3 next-gen systems.

Wii60, not PS3. Even Microsoft is promoting that double combo.

- N

Xbox 360. I have the normal Xbox which is great...so I feel I need to be loyal towards Xbox...
I heard Wii is great. You should get that, seriously, get it, exercise and fun at the same time!!! :D

Xbox>PS2
360>PS3

Simple as that!

The boyfriend is an avid gamer and says that the 360 is top dog.

Go Microsoft!

Personally, I like Wii Bowling... and 'dats about it.

~String

360 but get the 360 elite the ps3 to much for what it's worth

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6125087/index.html?type=tech

http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-348-1.htm

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2006/12/07/ps3_vs_xbox_360_a_developer_speaks.html

It seems like the current consoles to buy are between the 360 and the Wii mostly due to their current lineups of games and that the Wii is appealing to non-gamers, but after some time, based on it's horsepower and the fact that it will gain a larger lineup of games, the PS3 will be the one to own.

hmm i dout it cuase lets face it most people who have consoles are teens to earlyh adults and who buys them the consoles there parents so no i dout the ps3 is gona win it just to dam expensive

If price is the only concern, then one is limited in their choices, aren't they?

But, if you're actually comparing the units, then the PS3 will eventually win out.

i'm not sure cuase xbox live is currewntly the best

Yes, currently, that was my point.

Microsoft has had months of development with their new platform compared to Sony, but the prediction is that Microsoft will soon reach the ceiling of their limits. In time, Sony will develop the PS3 platform and release more titles, but will easily surpass the maximum limits of the 360, simply as a result of the PS3's superior horsepower.

i just think that at sony current sales there gona stuggel to bring out more games cuase microsoft is making consoles games out of there poket money so to say i just think sony will abondon it cuase of the lack of profit

Ok, but now you're shifting the goal posts and are making predictions based on sales, profits, margins, and what the corporations will do or not do.

I thought this thread was about the products themselves?

oh i thought it was about what would be the best choice cuase im the long run if they stop making games ur out $600

I doubt that, Sony is still making profits even though their gaming division isn't. And besides, they're going to have another price cut coupled with a change in their systems to bring down it's cost:

"Sony will target cost savings in the PlayStation 3 by introducing more advanced chips and consolidating components to reduce the overall number of parts, he said.

The company is already on the way to the first of these targets, with the recent start of production of a new version of the Cell processor built with a 65-nanometer production process. The chip in current consoles is built using a 90-nanometer process and the upcoming switch will mean a chip that is 40 percent smaller. Costs will fall in line with the size reduction, Sony said. It did not say when the new chip will appear in consoles."

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=95008

Which one should I get? What has the best games, which one is worth it?

You should just pick the console that is right for you. Go to the websites and check out all of the games and hardware specifications. You could also go to websites like IGN.com to get some information the games that you would like to play.

I chose the PS3 because it is the best console for me. I don’t really like the Xbox 360. The 360’s are graphics are good and there are a lot more games to choose from than the PS3, but I just happen to hate 90% of the games that are available for the 360. I hate shooters (Halo, Call of Duty, Gears of War, Ect.) and large percentage of the popular 360 games are shooters. And the fact that so many people enjoy playing those games just makes me hate them even more. I enjoy playing puzzles, sports, and fighting games. I can tell you that the graphics for all of the sports and fighting games that I have played for the PS3 thus far were better than the 360.

I use to own a 360, but I sold it to my friend after I bought the PS3. I decided to buy a PS3 because I wanted a blue ray player and I also wanted to own the console with the best graphic capabilities. I probably wouldn’t have bought it until 2008 if the 360 were capable of playing HD DVDs. I also own a Wii and I enjoy playing it more than I enjoyed the 360.

Wii60, not PS3. Even Microsoft is promoting that double combo.

- N

which means they don't feel they can stand on their own

Xbox>PS2
360>PS3

Simple as that!

dude for someone who hates america you sure are in love with microsoft the ps2 is still the best system out there

the ps3 has almost edged out the 360. and think about do you really want a system that has been plauged by major hardware problems from day one and has 2 pending lawsuits say ing in the 360 microsoft knowingly sold a defective product. you also have to remember the 360 was out for a year before the ps3. the ps3 will top out the 360 in the long run

No, the 360 will still be ahead in the long run. It's enjoying plenty of sales, and plenty of excellent quality games, not to mention price drops

No, the 360 will still be ahead in the long run. It's enjoying plenty of sales, and plenty of excellent quality games, not to mention price drops

have you been reading up on it its sales are dropping while the ps3 sales are begining to boom in june the 360 sold only 11,000 more consoles in the usa. if current trends continue the ps3 will be selling more in july that gives 2 markets to the ps3 the 2 most important the us and japan. hell i just read that in the 4 finacial quarter 360 sales dropped over 60% that doesn't seem to be enjoying good sales to me. plus a huge number of titles are getting ready to come out for the ps3 with halo 3 still a while off. and considering youy don't have to worry bout your ps3 crapping out on you like you do for a 360 thats advantage sony in fact the main reason the 360 numbers are slipping is all the hardware issues

not really

Bioshock? Gears? Nah, they are 360 only, and alot of others too, for instance forza, or saints row,etc and not to mention Halo 3

Xbox live is way more advanced than any other online system. They have alot more games. Saying that PS3 will "eventually" win is .. stupid. "Eventually", the hardware will be outdated and games developers won't bother. Anyway, MS is already working on the next gen xbox.

opinion has changed ps3 will beter graphics in long run but the xbox is a good high end console for the price so get a ps2 if u can afrod it and you are preapered to waite for the decent games on the way

the ps3 has almost edged out the 360. and think about do you really want a system that has been plauged by major hardware problems from day one and has 2 pending lawsuits say ing in the 360 microsoft knowingly sold a defective product. you also have to remember the 360 was out for a year before the ps3. the ps3 will top out the 360 in the long run

Just like dreamcast.

Just like dreamcast.

not really the ps3 will do well. its almost ahead of the 360 in the us and if current trends hold it will be ahead either august or september

personaly i prefer the playstation 3, not just for the games though. the xbox is better for shooting games and driving games 100%, but i love fighting games and hands down the playstation wins in that genre. it depends what type of games you enjoy playing i think. but ontop of that the playstation gets my vote because you get a built in blueray player, thats the cheapest blueray you can get alone, not to mention that its built into a great console.


peace.

wii is the best because it has sold as much as 360 even though its been around for so little time.

but if you want some good reasons to buy ps3, check out this video, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25LceCPO1ys) this guy has some good points.

From what I can make out from the two there really isn't much difference. If you don't have a HD television then go with the cheapest (XBOX currently), If you want a Blueray player go with PS3. If you want HD then the original XBOX 360's don't have a HDMI port, the XBOX 360 Elite (and ones released after Aug 1st 2007 according to the Wiki article) do now have a HDMI output.

This was the main difference in regards to the video's on the internet and their overall look, as the XBOX wasn't using HDMI in most of them. If you were to test the XBOX 360 Elite against a PS3 you'd find that the graphics is now even tighter.

As for Support, the XBOX 360 is known to have had it's original problems and Microsoft does give a 1 year warrantee on their console. If you have a problem with it and it can't be resolved through support they will (after some hassling) send out a box to pickup your console and for the most part defective goods aren't repaired but replaced. (It's a damn shame that the one year warrantee didn't see the HDMI addition for the most part it was only the First batch of consoles and a few of the DVD drives that were inbuilt.)

Conclusion:
XBOX 360 is as stated good for multiplayer's (Although a seperate purchase is necessary for XBOX live connection), the XBOX 360 also now connects to MSN Messenger and the Core firmware is constantly being adapted and modified, It is possible to connect the XBOX 360 to Windows Media Center and this allows more trailers and a few other bits and pieces to be accessed by your computer, it also allows you to play certain media formats from your computer through the XBOX 360 and utilise the HD output for Television. There are a few other tricks that I haven't become totally familiar with as of yet.

As for the PS3, I can't honestly conclude all it's "Extra's" since I don't own one, so to make a conclusion about it would be biased without a doubt. However since I have an XBOX 360 and don't have a 1080i HD television set or better, there hasn't really been any point with me going out of my way to get either PS3 or the HD-DVD drive that the XBOX can have as an accessory.

From what I can make out from the two there really isn't much difference. If you don't have a HD television then go with the cheapest (XBOX currently), If you want a Blueray player go with PS3. If you want HD then the original XBOX 360's don't have a HDMI port, the XBOX 360 Elite (and ones released after Aug 1st 2007 according to the Wiki article) do now have a HDMI output.

This was the main difference in regards to the video's on the internet and their overall look, as the XBOX wasn't using HDMI in most of them. If you were to test the XBOX 360 Elite against a PS3 you'd find that the graphics is now even tighter.

As for Support, the XBOX 360 is known to have had it's original problems and Microsoft does give a 1 year warrantee on their console. If you have a problem with it and it can't be resolved through support they will (after some hassling) send out a box to pickup your console and for the most part defective goods aren't repaired but replaced. (It's a damn shame that the one year warrantee didn't see the HDMI addition for the most part it was only the First batch of consoles and a few of the DVD drives that were inbuilt.)

Conclusion:
XBOX 360 is as stated good for multiplayer's (Although a seperate purchase is necessary for XBOX live connection), the XBOX 360 also now connects to MSN Messenger and the Core firmware is constantly being adapted and modified, It is possible to connect the XBOX 360 to Windows Media Center and this allows more trailers and a few other bits and pieces to be accessed by your computer, it also allows you to play certain media formats from your computer through the XBOX 360 and utilise the HD output for Television. There are a few other tricks that I haven't become totally familiar with as of yet.

As for the PS3, I can't honestly conclude all it's "Extra's" since I don't own one, so to make a conclusion about it would be biased without a doubt. However since I have an XBOX 360 and don't have a 1080i HD television set or better, there hasn't really been any point with me going out of my way to get either PS3 or the HD-DVD drive that the XBOX can have as an accessory.

Hey stryder

thank you as always for your very informative analysis

I will take you views in to account when buy a console for mysel...oooops i mean my son

~~~~~~~~~
zak

Xbox 360 delivers for games. Alot of fine quality games are out for 360 only.

It is just the overall better system.

If price is the only concern, then one is limited in their choices, aren't they?

But, if you're actually comparing the units, then the PS3 will eventually win out.
Many people still claim that the Betamax was superiour to VHS. I think the post pointing out that it is often parents who buy the systems makes a very good point. What parent is going to buy the $600 system when there's a perfectly good one available for $400?

Many people still claim that the Betamax was superiour to VHS. I think the post pointing out that it is often parents who buy the systems makes a very good point. What parent is going to buy the $600 system when there's a perfectly good one available for $400?

I couldn't agree with you more. But, if Sony makes a few hardware changes and cuts the price down to near the 360, that playing field will be equal.

If the hardware changes defeat the purpose of their current platform, that's a different story altogether and would need to be revisited.

Besides, how many parents will buy a 360 when their kids are screaming for a PS3?

I own neither consoles, but am thinking of renting both of them and put out a review.

I couldn't agree with you more. But, if Sony makes a few hardware changes and cuts the price down to near the 360, that playing field will be equal.

If the hardware changes defeat the purpose of their current platform, that's a different story altogether and would need to be revisited.

Besides, how many parents will buy a 360 when their kids are screaming for a PS3?

I own neither consoles, but am thinking of renting both of them and put out a review.

I have to admit I was actually contemplating something similar, however I haven't quite figured out how I'm going to get both console controllers to do the exact same actions to parallel the game output on two screens. Only options include jury rigging some sort of control splicer or having some method to record my actions on one machine to be replayed on the other. The interesting point in doing both those however is how the Randomisation is going to be done on each machine, will the AI do the same thing in a robotic form or will it spawn differently like with what is suggested about Assassin's Creed (http://assassinscreed.uk.ubi.com/index.php)?

I have to admit I was actually contemplating something similar, however I haven't quite figured out how I'm going to get both console controllers to do the exact same actions to parallel the game output on two screens.

No need. Simply rent the games that are available for both systems, play the game on one system and then the other, and make comparisons on graphics, rendering, sound, etc. It should be pretty straight forward.

Xbox 360 delivers for games. Alot of fine quality games are out for 360 only.

It is just the overall better system.

Heya Norsefire

yes i think my boy will be getting a 360 pretty soon

thanks everyine for the informative information

No need. Simply rent the games that are available for both systems, play the game on one system and then the other, and make comparisons on graphics, rendering, sound, etc. It should be pretty straight forward.

That will work for personal judgements, however I was thinking something a little larger ;)

Besides, how many parents will buy a 360 when their kids are screaming for a PS3?

Are you serious? The kid says, "I want a PS3". Dad says, "OK, cool. I could play it too." Runs down to the store, sees the price tag, has a heart attack. So he asks the video geek working there, "Hey, why is this game system so expensive? Is there anything comparable for less?" Viola. The kid gets a 360, and is probably pretty happy with it.

By the way, I prefer the 360. I'm just making the point that parents care more about price than some subtle differences in gameplay that requires you to link the game sytems via some kind of robotic interface to detect.

Given the lower price and better lineup of games, it's 360 hands down.

That will work for personal judgements, however I was thinking something a little larger ;)

Why personal? Is there some reason why one cannot make unbiased comparisons between the systems when all else is equal and come up with a valid and credible review? :shrug:

Should be easy, given some time.

not really the ps3 will do well. its almost ahead of the 360 in the us and if current trends hold it will be ahead either august or september

I meant that it's the same strategy Sony(and Microsoft and Nintendo) used vs. Dreamcast. They made a slightly better product a little while after, and the price eventually dropped. Also, the Dreamcast did very well, I think part of the problem was actually that they didn't make enough consoles to supply the demand. I forget all the details, but it was something like that.

Many people still claim that the Betamax was superiour to VHS. I think the post pointing out that it is often parents who buy the systems makes a very good point. What parent is going to buy the $600 system when there's a perfectly good one available for $400?

betamax was better

Xbox 360 delivers for games. Alot of fine quality games are out for 360 only.

It is just the overall better system.

that isn't the best indicater because it was out first. It slipping do to hardware problems. it doesn't matter how good the games are if the hardware craps outs. hell i've played 360 it isn't bad but it has problems that the wii and ps3 don't which is hurting it.

personaly i prefer the playstation 3, not just for the games though. the xbox is better for shooting games and driving games 100%, but i love fighting games and hands down the playstation wins in that genre. it depends what type of games you enjoy playing i think. but ontop of that the playstation gets my vote because you get a built in blueray player, thats the cheapest blueray you can get alone, not to mention that its built into a great console.


peace.

What fighting games are out for ps3?

What fighting games are out for ps3?

just stupid dragon ballz

Mortal Kombat is FAR superior, as well as Dead or Alive

just stupid dragon ballz

Mortal Kombat is FAR superior, as well as Dead or Alive

mortal combat is no longer that good. and your forgeting virtua fighter

the current trends in consol sales predict that the ps3 will out sell the 360 in august. and i would like to add most of the people who i have talked to their favorite 360 games aren't exlusive in fact most big titles are not exlusive for the 360 hell halo and bioshock are also on pc and you can upgrade your pc to runn them for less than an x-box

... hell halo and bioshock are also on pc and you can upgrade your pc to runn them for less than an x-box

That's necessarily a true statement. I know if I was to upgrade my main stack for either of those titles, I'd have to go about replacing the motherboard, then the need for a processor, RAM, Graphics card, new operating system etc. Before you know it I've bought the XBOX over about 3-4 times and 1 PS3 to boot.

Specing a PC for Games playing is not a cheap matter if you want to compare it graphically while being stable enough to play.

Are you serious? The kid says, "I want a PS3". Dad says, "OK, cool. I could play it too." Runs down to the store, sees the price tag, has a heart attack. So he asks the video geek working there, "Hey, why is this game system so expensive? Is there anything comparable for less?" Viola. The kid gets a 360, and is probably pretty happy with it.

By the way, I prefer the 360. I'm just making the point that parents care more about price than some subtle differences in gameplay that requires you to link the game sytems via some kind of robotic interface to detect.

Given the lower price and better lineup of games, it's 360 hands down.

the 360 cannot compare in reliability though. and the lineup of games isn't better most of the top games aren't exlusive like halo and bioshock

That's necessarily a true statement. I know if I was to upgrade my main stack for either of those titles, I'd have to go about replacing the motherboard, then the need for a processor, RAM, Graphics card, new operating system etc. Before you know it I've bought the XBOX over about 3-4 times and 1 PS3 to boot.

Specing a PC for Games playing is not a cheap matter if you want to compare it graphically while being stable enough to play.

top of the line yes to run them decently isn't that expensive

the 360 cannot compare in reliability though. and the lineup of games isn't better most of the top games aren't exlusive like halo and bioshock

One problem with the 360 is just down to how the programmers set about Caching the games, since most of the time the information either has to be loaded into memory or being directly read of the DVD. This of course can cause problems and for the most part those Three red lights of death that are so infamous with the first batch of XBOX's can be linked just to the DVD drive failing alone.

For instance there is a fair amount of difference in the way Oblivion plays on the PC in comparison to the XBOX. The XBOX you have to wait occasionally for load screens to pass as you move between different areas (which occasionally results in a crash), on the PC if you have enough RAM, swap space and a full install there is very little load time.

all you need to know is the failure rates ps3 .02%
Xbox 360 30%

which is better. i believe its a no brainer

all you need to know is the failure rates ps3 .02%
Xbox 360 30%

which is better. i believe its a no brainer

It is a no brainer.

360 has better games, accessories, online, and deals

PS3 has few games (less exclusives), accessories are overpriced, PSN is still on its toes, and there aren't many good deals

I finally broke down and got a ps3. Mostly I was interested in a blu-ray player. Sony sells a good one for around $600. So I got the ps3 for 500$. Its true there arent very many games ported specifically for the ps3 but theres all the ps2 games. Plus, I like the built in wireless on it. It took like 3 minutes to hook it up to my wireless network and get online. I havent downloaded in games though. When I first got it online I got a message there was like a software update for the ps3. It didnt tell me how big the file(s) were that it downloaded, but it took a hell of a long time.. like 45 minutes or an hour.

Oh and its HEAVY! I just like that. It feels tough. heh

I shouldve put the graphics before that. A few of the ps3 games I rented for it were super outrageous graphically in my opinion. It was a whole new experience for me to play a game pumping graphics that intense the whole time. Theres huge potential in this machine. I think it has all the other game systems including pc, totally bested in potential at least.

Are you serious? The kid says, "I want a PS3". Dad says, "OK, cool. I could play it too." Runs down to the store, sees the price tag, has a heart attack. So he asks the video geek working there, "Hey, why is this game system so expensive? Is there anything comparable for less?" Viola. The kid gets a 360, and is probably pretty happy with it.

By the way, I prefer the 360. I'm just making the point that parents care more about price than some subtle differences in gameplay that requires you to link the game sytems via some kind of robotic interface to detect.

Given the lower price and better lineup of games, it's 360 hands down.

What you're essentially saying is that the video geeks could explain why the PS3 was more expensive, yet the dad preferred the inferior model for the price. Kids who actually wanted a PS3 had to settle for a 360.

And of course, they would be happy, they just received the second best game console on the market. :D

I finally broke down and got a ps3. Mostly I was interested in a blu-ray player. Sony sells a good one for around $600. So I got the ps3 for 500$.

An excellent point. A good purchase even if you never use the gaming platforms.

I shouldve put the graphics before that. A few of the ps3 games I rented for it were super outrageous graphically in my opinion. It was a whole new experience for me to play a game pumping graphics that intense the whole time. Theres huge potential in this machine.

What's the name of those games?

What you're essentially saying is that the video geeks could explain why the PS3 was more expensive, yet the dad preferred the inferior model for the price. Kids who actually wanted a PS3 had to settle for a 360.

And of course, they would be happy, they just received the second best game console on the market. :D

First best, Q, first best:D

Not quite a no brainer.

However I pray I do that the 360 will stay with the ps

It is a no brainer.

360 has better games, accessories, online, and deals

PS3 has few games (less exclusives), accessories are overpriced, PSN is still on its toes, and there aren't many good deals

did you even look at the failure rates the ps3 is by far better

did you even look at the failure rates the ps3 is by far better

Well the 360 failure rate was higher because they pushed to lead the market and in doing so QA wasn't regulated properly. the PS3 has only had a less failure rate since the ability to view Microsofts failures was possible, in fact if you didn't know the PS3 saw a push back in regards to release in Europe and that was on the grounds of some 'Technical issues'. (You could suggest their QA pulled it up)

Well the 360 failure rate was higher because they pushed to lead the market and in doing so QA wasn't regulated properly. the PS3 has only had a less failure rate since the ability to view Microsofts failures was possible, in fact if you didn't know the PS3 saw a push back in regards to release in Europe and that was on the grounds of some 'Technical issues'. (You could suggest their QA pulled it up)

So Sony has better marketing strategies?

Well the 360 failure rate was higher because they pushed to lead the market and in doing so QA wasn't regulated properly. the PS3 has only had a less failure rate since the ability to view Microsofts failures was possible, in fact if you didn't know the PS3 saw a push back in regards to release in Europe and that was on the grounds of some 'Technical issues'. (You could suggest their QA pulled it up)

so your saying what sony decided to deal with hardware issues while microsoft didn't care. and still a 30% after being out for more then a year is god awfull

i'm going to sum up what been said about the 2 systems and then give my opinion on which has the edge
x-box 360: large title selection due to time since launch. a fair number of exclusives but with some complaints of lack of vairity in them. top series is not system exclusive(halo) decent number of games that are only also on pc. mid range cost. high chance of numerous or any hardware problems. Failure rate is put at 30%. 2 lawsuits claiming microsoft knowing sold a defective product. console sales are on the decline over past few months

PS3: a smallish but growing title selection due to time since launch. a fair number of exclusives but smaller than the others. almost all exclusives are true exclusives not time exclusives or on pc. some top series have gone mutli-platform but the still has some system exclusive staying exclusive. highest cost of all consoles. very low chance of numerous or any hardware problems. failure rate is put at .02% no known lawsuits for selling a defective product. large increase in console sales in the last few months

advantage ps3

betamax was better
I knew there had to be someone out there who'd say that!
the 360 cannot compare in reliability though. and the lineup of games isn't better most of the top games aren't exlusive like halo and bioshock
I've heard there have been some problems. I, on the other hand, have had a 360 since the day they came out with zero problems.

I knew there had to be someone out there who'd say that!

I've heard there have been some problems. I, on the other hand, have had a 360 since the day they came out with zero problems.

for the first one i have watched both betamax and vhs and the betamax were better

as for the second count yourself lucky from what i read no only is there a high chance of failure a recent article stated the microsoft doesn't fix them they just send you a new system with the same defects there

for the first one i have watched both betamax and vhs and the betamax were better

An ironic aspect of format wars is that perceived technical superiority does not always win. Though Betamax was perceived by consumers to have better picture quality than VHS, a number of factors including VHS's longer recording time, wider range of models and suppliers, and lower cost eventually relegated Betamax to a niche market in Japan. http://www.allaboutmovies.com.au/pages/a-brief-history-of-the-dvd.php
As you know from the Betamax v/s VHS format war, the highest quality doesn't always win. Cost is a very big issue and may have been the deciding factor in the VHS/Betamax war. The same thing could very well happen here. Really, I hope both systems continue to be produced. Competition is good for us consumers.

If price was that important, you'd be seeing a surge in N64s and Dreamcasts right now.

It is a no brainer.

360 has better games, accessories, online, and deals

PS3 has few games (less exclusives), accessories are overpriced, PSN is still on its toes, and there aren't many good deals

the accessories are priced roughly the same as 360 ones so. and i see good deals for could please try and be more objective

An ironic aspect of format wars is that perceived technical superiority does not always win. Though Betamax was perceived by consumers to have better picture quality than VHS, a number of factors including VHS's longer recording time, wider range of models and suppliers, and lower cost eventually relegated Betamax to a niche market in Japan. http://www.allaboutmovies.com.au/pages/a-brief-history-of-the-dvd.php
As you know from the Betamax v/s VHS format war, the highest quality doesn't always win. Cost is a very big issue and may have been the deciding factor in the VHS/Betamax war. The same thing could very well happen here. Really, I hope both systems continue to be produced. Competition is good for us consumers.
no vhs had super agressive marketing that why it won that and the average consumer is dumber than a box of rocks

If price was that important, you'd be seeing a surge in N64s and Dreamcasts right now.
Price is important when deciding between two largely equivalent systems such as 360 vs PS3 or Betamax vs VHS.

You can't compare a dreamcast or N64 to an Xbox 360 or PS3. It's apples and oranges.

if the apple comes with a blue ray player, and the orange doesent. im choosing the apple.


peace.

if the apple comes with a blue ray player, and the orange doesent. im choosing the apple.

But what if HD-DVD wins the format war and your blue ray is obsolete?

But what if HD-DVD wins the format war and your blue ray is obsolete?

yeah right...

But what if HD-DVD wins the format war and your blue ray is obsolete?

aslong as a market for blue ray is open it will not become obsolete. there is room for 2 player formats in the market , just like there is room for 2 rival game consoles in the market.

the ps3 blue ray is actualy the cheapest you can get, and its built into a high powered games system. that alone is enough to tip the balance in its favour, people are paying up to and over 1000 for a decent blue ray. and thats without the ps3 combo built in.

the x box is winning at the moment only because of its early release date. sony has many loyal fans who will buy the ps3, especially after xmas with the price drop.


peace.

But what if HD-DVD wins the format war and your blue ray is obsolete?

thats probably not going to happen as of right no hd-dvd is getting spanked by blu-ray

Technically HD-DVD and Blu-ray are already obsolete, since both of them are confined to 'Materialistic' formats which are heavily reliant upon chemical components made from fossil fuels.

I bought a PS2 and own an Xbox - the Xbox DVD player was never near the perfromance of the PS2. Many MANY time I brought home a DVD that would skip or stop playing on the Xboax and play fine on the PS2. Sony just simply has better hardware.

Second - I loved the PS2 games, MGS, FF, ResEvil, GTA, etc... I did like a few exclusives on Xbox but not many, the two KOTORs come to mind.

Anyway, I'm waiting for PS3 to come down in price. If possible I would like to own both again, but I'll wait and see what each offers.

I agree the PS3 right now has no game I want to play other than Oblivion with is for both platforms.

I bought a PS2 and own an Xbox - the Xbox DVD player was never near the perfromance of the PS2. Many MANY time I brought home a DVD that would skip or stop playing on the Xboax and play fine on the PS2. Sony just simply has better hardware.

Second - I loved the PS2 games, MGS, FF, ResEvil, GTA, etc... I did like a few exclusives on Xbox but not many, the two KOTORs come to mind.

Anyway, I'm waiting for PS3 to come down in price. If possible I would like to own both again, but I'll wait and see what each offers.

I agree the PS3 right now has no game I want to play other than Oblivion with is for both platforms.

My Xbox played DVD's just fine

The Xbox also DOES have the better hardware, for instance a hard drive, better graphics, etc

The 360 has WAY better games.

Just get a 360, it's alot better and I have no regrets.

My Xbox played DVD's just fine

The Xbox also DOES have the better hardware, for instance a hard drive, better graphics, etc

The 360 has WAY better games.

Just get a 360, it's alot better and I have no regrets.

i'm going ask you this directly because you have ignored it how can you say that the 360 is better than the ps3 when it has major hardware problems that microsoft has yet to do anything successfully about. Do you truely believe soft ware can overcome hardware issues. i mean does it really matter how good the games are if every so often you have to wait 6 weeks to get a patchwork repair job on it. the ps3 wins simply it doesn't have the hardware issues. consider statisticlly to have the same number of ps3s fail as in a batch of 10,000 360 you would need a batch of 15 million. and did you read my post where i summed everything up on both systems. i hope you can be obljective about this. and yeah the 360 has some great games but to say they are way better is going way out on a ledge in fact allmost all the advantages you say the 360 has are due to it has been out longer and it doesn't have all of the time related ones(relibility is time based) you also have yet to try and refute my comments on the current purchasing trends either which the ps3 has an edge their.

I bought a PS2 and own an Xbox - the Xbox DVD player was never near the perfromance of the PS2. Many MANY time I brought home a DVD that would skip or stop playing on the Xboax and play fine on the PS2. Sony just simply has better hardware.

Second - I loved the PS2 games, MGS, FF, ResEvil, GTA, etc... I did like a few exclusives on Xbox but not many, the two KOTORs come to mind.

Anyway, I'm waiting for PS3 to come down in price. If possible I would like to own both again, but I'll wait and see what each offers.

I agree the PS3 right now has no game I want to play other than Oblivion with is for both platforms.

KOTOR wasn't x-box only it was on pc as well

Technically HD-DVD and Blu-ray are already obsolete, since both of them are confined to 'Materialistic' formats which are heavily reliant upon chemical components made from fossil fuels.

i was reading some where that when holographic dics go commercial they will have 1.2 terabyte capcity

My Xbox played DVD's just fineEven many times the scratched DVD would not play at all on the Xbox and played with ease on the PS2. I think Sony has better laser tech - they own the patent after all.

Anyway, I agree it's the games the matter most and right now PS3 don't have dick

Wow... why's everyone complaining about ps3's games? Does no one have any foresight? God of War, Heavenly Sword, the next FF game, the next KH game, Warhawk, MGS, and White Knight Story all are or will likely be exclusive to Ps3. Although, I did like Fable and Halo.

Wow... why's everyone complaining about ps3's games? Does no one have any foresight? God of War, Heavenly Sword, the next FF game, the next KH game, Warhawk, MGS, and White Knight Story all are or will likely be exclusive to Ps3. Although, I did like Fable and Halo.

neither of which are exclusive to the x-box

Even many times the scratched DVD would not play at all on the Xbox and played with ease on the PS2. I think Sony has better laser tech - they own the patent after all.

Anyway, I agree it's the games the matter most and right now PS3 don't have dick

good games don't mean squat if you systems broke

neither of which are exclusive to the x-box
Are they on anything else besides PC?

I'm hedging PS3, although I'd think about both if I could afford them both - just because there are simply too many PS games I love. FF comes instantly to mind :)

there are simply too many PS games I love. FF comes instantly to mind :)

Then you'd probably like White Knight Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_knight_story) too.

Pretty soon, I'll be playing halo3 online. If anyone wants to get their ass kicked, my username on xboxlive is the same as here.

And that's another point in favor of the xbox. Xbox-live kicks ass. Playstation lags far behind in this arena and I find on-line play to be vastly superior to just playing against the computer.

... Xbox-live kicks ass. Playstation lags far behind in this arena...That is true.

Are they on anything else besides PC?
nope

Pretty soon, I'll be playing halo3 online. If anyone wants to get their ass kicked, my username on xboxlive is the same as here.

And that's another point in favor of the xbox. Xbox-live kicks ass. Playstation lags far behind in this arena and I find on-line play to be vastly superior to just playing against the computer.

something you pay for should be better than something free for a free service playstations is not bad in fact its good

something you pay for should be better than something free for a free service playstations is not bad in fact its good$50 a year. No big deal. And the Playstation online play really sucks.

I really miss this house :(


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the Playstation online play really sucks.Why?

$50 a year. No big deal. And the Playstation online play really sucks.

if it were something you paid for yeah but for a free service its pretty good you cannot use the same standards to judge by for something that is free and something that isn't. something you pay for has more money to put into so of course it better than a free service when compared to other free online things like the play station's is one of the best. you x-box bias is showing

XBOX live doesn't just cover online gaming, you can download demo's of upcoming releases, on the US marketplace they can download television programs and even films however currently they still have to fully implement such services worldwide. (Basically it's a mixture of the US being the 'Beta' market and the licensing regulations on a country by country basis.)

Of course it's not free, the subscription costs and so do some of the downloads themselves however those costs are incurred to house those downloads and to try and maintain a high speed and uninterrupted service.

What does the PS3 have?

if it were something you paid for yeah but for a free service its pretty good you cannot use the same standards to judge by for something that is free and something that isn't. something you pay for has more money to put into so of course it better than a free service when compared to other free online things like the play station's is one of the best. you x-box bias is showing
Most of the gaming I do is online. I find playing against the computer to be boring. Especially after a while.

There's no way I'd still be playing Halo2 if not for the online play. Not only do you get the fun of playing against real humans, but the game is constantly being updated with new maps, etc.

XBOX live doesn't just cover online gaming, you can download demo's of upcoming releases, on the US marketplace they can download television programs and even films however currently they still have to fully implement such services worldwide. (Basically it's a mixture of the US being the 'Beta' market and the licensing regulations on a country by country basis.)

Of course it's not free, the subscription costs and so do some of the downloads themselves however those costs are incurred to house those downloads and to try and maintain a high speed and uninterrupted service.

What does the PS3 have?

much of the same cept its world wide

I voted for the XBOX 360 for one reason HALO!

Most of the gaming I do is online. I find playing against the computer to be boring. Especially after a while.

There's no way I'd still be playing Halo2 if not for the online play. Not only do you get the fun of playing against real humans, but the game is constantly being updated with new maps, etc.

Halo 2? What are you 14? Gimme a break, the targeting is for kids or U.S Army...ops ...nevermind.

ps3 is the superior console, especially considering one in three xboxes overheat and die due to poor manufacturing, however the ps3 costs twice and much and has far fewer good games for it.

360


Halo is overrated shit, but there are some good games like GoW, Oblivion, etc, and the new ones coming out

ps3 is the superior console, especially considering one in three xboxes overheat and die due to poor manufacturing, however the ps3 costs twice and much and has far fewer good games for it.

"SONY HAS ANNOUNCED that the 80GB Playstation 3 console will be dropping in price to $400 in the US.

That also means that the 80GB PS3 now costs the same as a 60GB 360 and an Xbox Live membership."

Also has anyone seen the PS3's E3 line up. good stuff