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View Full Version : Proposal; regarding proud muslim(with poll)
Dr Lou Natic 03-27-04, 11:29 PM By any definition PM should be banned, its like beyond a joke.
But how about instead of just banning him we hold everyone to that standard? in other words no one gets banned untill they exceed proud muslim in 'terribleness'?
I'd like to think this would naturally be the case seeing as how proud muslim is still around, but I just want insurance, this thread is to make sure that the agreement is clear.
As long as PM is here, no one less offensive and horrible than PM can be banned, agreed?
I completely agree. If Proud_Muslim won't be banned, neither should anyone who's actions are less terrible than his.
HeHeHe. I voted ban but then I would ban all religious fanatics. :D
SwedishFish 03-28-04, 01:06 AM i'm not choosing either. it is the mods' discretion who they ban.
Dr Lou Natic 03-28-04, 01:29 AM Well that kind of sucks. I think there should be some logic behind any banning, otherwise they could just go about hap-hazardly banning people they didn't like.
If tomorrow someone gets banned, and PM remains, I want to see how that person was worse than pm. Same goes for anyone, I use pm because he is the worst.
But like if someone got banned for saying nun-cunt, and someone who had used the term nun-cunt previously remains, then I see a problem.
Porfiry owns the board so I guess he has the right to ban all but females who send naked pictures or whatever the hell he wants but the mods should need to be banning for a valid reason and it should be some kind of board wide code that all members are subject to.
Including PM. The way I see it no one that has been banned in the past was anywhere near as bad as PM.
I'm trying to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else, as long as PM is here, then his behaviour is what we can use as a guide. If we aren't behaving any worse than pm we should not have to fear a ban. Unless of course pm is banned and then we have to re-establish whats acceptable by finding the worst remaining poster and using his/her behaviour as a guide.
Understand?
I don't think it should be the mods discretion, porfiry's discretion sure but the mods are just members like us and need to be police upholding the law rather than dictators creating the law as they go along and applying it to some and not others. I'd call rodney king if I got banned while PM was still here.
crazymikey 03-28-04, 03:12 AM There is a certain ethical responsibility an owner of a forum must adhere to. That responsibility is not being adhered to here, I can see that, loud and clear.
There is a certain ethical responsibility an owner of a forum must adhere to. That responsibility is not being adhered to here, I can see that, loud and clear.Lol. That's bull. This site is a -free- service (almost), and porf can do just about any damn thing he wants. He doesn't have a responsibility to ban PM, but it would be the fair and I think correct thing to do.
Swedishfish: It is up to porfiry who gets banned, but assuming he doesn't browse that often, threads like this may point him in the right direction ;)
James R 03-28-04, 09:35 AM Your poll options are biased.
spuriousmonkey 03-28-04, 09:36 AM Yes, it is a divine miracle that PM hasn't been banned yet (allah also works in mysterious ways) and it is difficult to see how anyone is currently a worse offender in being a forum troll than he!
Your poll options are biased.
Polls are always biased.
Yes, they are biased, but if anybody feels the need to vote no then they can explain that they don't think he 'is retarded'... although I have no idea how that would be backed up.
spuriousmonkey 03-28-04, 09:42 AM btw, I am not a decent human being, despite that he poll states that I am a decent human being.
I'm an asshole.
Nebuchadnezzaar 03-28-04, 10:06 AM just ignore PM, then he'll leave.
If we ban PM, then we'd have to ban people such as Vienna and all the other little hateful fanaticals out there. In the end they'd be very few people on here. I'll be the first to agree that PM's a big pain in the behind, but if you ban one then you have to ban all.
As to holding him up there as a standard. Hmm would that be fair? Those who are banned for being as bad as he or just that little bit worse would have reason to complain because they'd see PM as still being here while they are banned. If PM breaks the fundamental banable rules, then he should be banned, as should anyone else who breaks the rules. But in the end it remains with the powers that be to decide who are banned.
One should also consider the fact that if PM were banned, then he'd come back under another name and imagine the rantings we'd suffer then about how he was right that there was a conspiracy against muslims in here and how we are all Islamaphobes, hypocrites, haters, etc, etc. :eek:
tablariddim 03-28-04, 11:25 AM We come here to debate and discuss things and hopefully, we can all learn something from this exercise, even people with fixed and biased ideas might actually get some enlightenment from it and that can only benefit the individual, the other posters and even society at large, but you must give them a chance.
If someone's behaving like an asshole, all you have to do is ignore them, no need to ban, bans smack of censorship and elitism. We should only consider banning posters who are consistently insultingly rude to other posters and that don't contribute anything of substance except their rudeness.
PM is a religious fanatic, simply that, and he is shouting desperately to be heard while having a hard time accepting that not everyone is actually biased against him personally or Islam per se, but is actually biased against BullShit no matter what the source is. Engage him in debate (if you can stand it) by all means, or ignore him until he gives up or changes his tune, but he has a right to state his opinions.
outlandish 03-28-04, 01:55 PM lou, you should be banned for posting such a blatantly biassed and nonsensical poll, and for not presenting any argument whatsoever.
Ozymandias 03-28-04, 02:27 PM I think the argument presents itself whenever PM posts. ;)
I fully agree with what Tablariddim said.
Bells, I am a hateful fanatic towards anything which threatens peace on Earth.
Having said that I am against the idea of Proud Muslim being banned. He is simply a very good example of how a typical Muslim behaves and he illustrates perfectly what the world should expect from Islam.
I wouldn't expect his words or behaviour to be anything different.
We are giving the same focus of attention to one Muslim here on a microscopic scale compared to the attention the world media gives to Islamic terrorism.
Doesn't that just sum it all up.
ps. And No, I haven't voted.
outlandish 03-28-04, 03:32 PM vienna, your post once again highlights your complete lack of knowledge on many issues, including Islam and Muslims.
He is simply a very good example of how a typical Muslim behaves
Nonsense. Utter drivel. There is no Typical Muslim. You cannot classify anyone as "typical" anything on the basis of any generic grouping, including one's faith.
he illustrates perfectly what the world should expect from Islam
1) He illustrates nothing of the sort.
2) Your perception of what he may or may not illustrate equates to nothing.
3) You illustrate quite perfectly once again your complete ignorance.
We are giving the focus of attention to one Muslim here on a microscopic scale the attention the world media gives to Islamic terrorism.
come again Adolph?
Offensive and ignorant.
1) no connection between PM and terrorism of any sort.
2) any such comparisons show once again the total ineptitude and absence of rational reasoning inside your mind.
3) you have no knowledge nor will you ever have of what actual terrorism is, and will remain for the rest of your wretched life a little monkey being spoon fed the nonsense served up so willingly by the likes of FOX news et al.
outlandish
Please do calm yourself.
You know nothing about me, my life, my experiences - or the place I live which is now heavily populated with Asian Muslims. Also there are three mosques are within easy reach where I live. So I do qualify to comment through my personal experiences with these people.
I have met many of these Asian Muslims and they hold the same attitudes as Proud Muslim, and behave in an arrogant manner. They live in England and yet they hate the English whites, they hate England (The country where they live) and America, they even cheered and laughed in the streets at 9/11.
So I'm not going to apologise if my view of muslims and Islam doesn't exactly match yours.
ps. outlandish, Have you ever considered holding Proud Muslims hand as he writes about Islam on the Religion Board. Have a think about it, and hopefully we will see you there.
spidergoat 03-28-04, 04:40 PM Don't ban PM! You can't buy entertainment like that! I think he is character played by a U.S. government agent, trolling for muslim fanatics. What guidelines has he violated?
Ozymandias 03-28-04, 04:53 PM Spidergoat, I don't think Lou is aiming to ban PM. He's just saying "Don't ban anyone else before you ban PM, because PM is really the most deserving to be banned on these forums."
outlandish 03-28-04, 05:23 PM vienna
You know nothing about me, my life, my experiences
take that and apply it to 3 Billion plus muslims worlwide. You know nothing of THEM, and THEIR lives, yet it doesn't stop you babbling on and on.
three mosques are within easy reach where I live
relevance to what exactly?
So I do qualify to comment through my personal experiences with these people.
you qualify for nothing. You have no personal experiences with these people, just ignorance and animosity. LIving in a street with 10000 mosques is irelevant.
I have met many of these Asian Muslims and they hold the same attitudes as Proud Muslim
they're just mirroring your own prejudices. Take a look in the mirror white boy.
they hate England (The country where they live) and America,
no. they just hate narrow minded rednecks like yourself.
I don't think Lou is aiming to ban PM. He's just saying "Don't ban anyone else before you ban PM, because PM is really the most deserving to be banned on these forums."Yeah, it's kind of like saying that since Dr. Lou thinks PM is molesting children, Dr. Lou should never be arrested for stealing your car.
:rolleyes:
vienna
take that and apply it to 3 Billion plus muslims worlwide. You know nothing of THEM, and THEIR lives, yet it doesn't stop you babbling on and on.
No it doesn't, and no-one in the world has met 1.2 Billion muslims, unless you know otherwise.
And by the way the highest calculation of muslims in the world comes from CAIR (Council on American-Islamic relations) who estimates it at 1.2 billion. Not 3 Billion.
Where dooo you get your figures from? :rolleyes:
relevance to what exactly?
You haven't got the intelligence to understand :rolleyes:
You have no personal experiences with these people, just ignorance and animosity.
Where did you get arrogance?
Take a look in the mirror white boy.
If it's possible for you to be serious for a just a split second. Do you think that you are contributing towards Islam at all??? - NO
Do you think by making racist comments like "white boy" are going to help you in the world?? - NO
It is people like you who flame others in creating aggression today, you are the scum of society.
Yeah I've changed my mind about PM, ban him; and I suggest that the American coloured muslim racist chap called outlandish be banned too. His racism is so vulgar and typically muslim.
"White Boy" indeed :rolleyes:
Dr Lou Natic 03-28-04, 10:13 PM Yeah, it's kind of like saying that since Dr. Lou thinks PM is molesting children, Dr. Lou should never be arrested for stealing your car.
:rolleyes:
Close, its kind of like saying while PM is skinning someone alive I shouldn't be arrested for punching someone in the face, arrest the guy skinning someone first, and then we'll talk.
If pm is allowed to keep skinning people, than we can only assume skinning people isn't against the law, and skin without fear of reprisal, as well as anything that is lesser in severity than skinning people.
I'm just making sure what should be obvious is clear.
I'm not proposing anyone ban PM.
spuriousmonkey 03-29-04, 01:24 AM I'm not proposing anyone ban PM.
I guess they nevered bothered to read the original message.
outlandish 03-29-04, 07:52 AM And by the way the highest calculation of muslims in the world comes from CAIR (Council on American-Islamic relations) who estimates it at 1.2 billion. Not 3 Billion.
pedantic.
I find it mildly amusing and ironic that you a person who posesses such ignorance and apathy towards Islam and Muslims can quote the current statistics from CAIR.
My, wouldn't you just make a fascinating case study (maybe not).
You haven't got the intelligence to understand
1) You haven't the articulation to convey your point.
2) You don't have a point to convey in the first place.
Where did you get arrogance?
TRAITS-R-US, they had a bulk buy discount on arrogance. I'm SURE I saw you at the three-for-one ignorance section stocking up......
Yeah I've changed my mind about PM, ban him; and I suggest that the American coloured muslim racist chap called outlandish be banned too. His racism is so vulgar and typically muslim.
1) I'm not coloured American
2) I'm not Muslim
3) I'm not racist.
don't give up the day job sigmund fraud....
Nebuchadnezzaar 03-29-04, 08:40 AM sigmund freud.........???????
outlandish 03-29-04, 08:53 AM no, Fraud.
Nebuchadnezzaar 03-29-04, 09:45 AM i getcha,
now that's clever stuff, playing on words.
Fooled me though? a little toooo subtle.
outlandish
You call me a "White Boy" then say you're not racist, oh boy, yo momma sures like hell got problems wich yoo boy.
I suppose you think your funny, eh? Well, you couldn't be more wrong if you showed up for a 'Parents Against Pedophiles' meeting wearing a small boy on your dick...and it wouldn't surprise me if you did.
Once again you start typing and show us all why Bill Gate's philanthropy in donating computers to "The Institute for Distressed Gimpzoids" was seriously misguided.
Yo boy, will you ever learn that your fingers are best deployed as mucus extraction implements, and not for typing self-purging inanities, sciforum postings and e-mails to non-criminally insane readers? Probably not. Surely if Tim Burners-Lee knew that you would use his world wide web invention for this purpose, he would have encrypted his code, before burying it in an abandoned mine shaft.
I suspect that the process of communication, for you, is one of slipping on one of your uncontrollably excreted turds and knocking your hollow noggin on the door knob, producing an urge to type 100 nonsensical posts per day to total strangers.
So why do you persist in fouling these boards with your odious postings, when intelligent expression is clearly not your forte? Your mind is as devoid of thought as your bank account is of dollars. I can't help but feel a deep sense of pity for the poor, hardworking care nurse who has to chew your food for you.
Close, its kind of like saying while PM is skinning someone alive I shouldn't be arrested for punching someone in the face, arrest the guy skinning someone first, and then we'll talk.Whatever you say, Doc. After all, a guy caught up in a passionate argument whose reactions are limited by both a patience worn in a manner you cannot possibly understand as well as cultural boundaries is a whole lot worse than someone like you who goes out of your way to try to hurt people's feelings and make them feel bad.
We know your reasons for this topic, Dr. Lou.
You are neither honest nor honorable.
Your thread doesn't seem to be designed for what it appears to have been supposed to be designed for. :(
outlandish 03-29-04, 06:37 PM Would somebody please like to tell me what the hell vienna is babbling on about??? I sure as hell have given up trying to translate his slop.
You call me a "White Boy" then say you're not racist, oh boy, yo momma sures like hell got problems wich yoo boy.
wit is truly wasted on this caveman.
you couldn't be more wrong if you showed up for a 'Parents Against Pedophiles' meeting wearing a small boy on your dick...and it wouldn't surprise me if you did.
Go lie down before you fall over.
what in god's name are you pratling on about???
...while I leave moron foaming at the mouth, waiting for a labotomy....back to the thread...
tiassa:
Whatever you say, Doc. After all, a guy caught up in a passionate argument whose reactions are limited by both a patience worn in a manner you cannot possibly understand as well as cultural boundaries is a whole lot worse than someone like you who goes out of your way to try to hurt people's feelings and make them feel bad.
Thank the Lord!!!!! At last, a sane, rational, incisive member on this board!!
well said.
Bravo.
Bingo.
Hit the nail on the F***ing head.
:m:
well saidThank you. (I'm retracting a reference to a syntactical error in the passage, and my appreciation at your reading through it, as I intend to argue with myself whether it's a real error, or how differently I would have had to write the sentence. Note to those who find me paranoid--it's true that I'm having this argument with myself largely because I'm getting used to combing my words to accommodate certain people's comprehension difficulties.)
However, I must make one correction. Inasmuch as I do strive for a certain rationality, there are few people who would consider me sane. I will be deemed sane by society about the same time I prove definitively that the orthodox happiness to which we are allegedly to subscribe, and thus prescribe medication and therapy against all else, is in fact the true deviation, and we need to put the happy people on downers so the rest of us who feel (not necessarily are) overburdened by the necessities of existing in society can take a few minutes to look around without a horde of egomaniacal orangutans waving self-contradictory fictions about and insisting they're objective principle. That, of course, is an entirely different discussion.
Of course, some around here also find my insanity manifested in the perception that I enjoy hitting the nail just a little too much. In terms roughly analogous to "absolute value" as a mathematical term describing a number's separation from zero, it's probably true that I take a certain unnecessary thrill in driving the nails. But I think back to the Metallica show last night, and when my brother and I were sharing a joke or two, he never asked me why I was yelling. (Again we return to perspective and contrast. How odd.)
Oh, wait, there's a topic (chortle!) going on. I really should let it continue.
vienna
Take a look in the mirror white boy.
I'm not racist.
You're a contradictive twat.
outlandish 03-29-04, 07:06 PM I'm bored with you Vienna, begone with you. Come back when you've had the labotomy.
One word of advice: be careful when walking the streets of (pick the one appropriate to you}
-Stoke
-Burnley
-Oldham
-Rochdale
-Halifax
-Preston
-Blackburn
-Manchester
-Salford
-Bolton
-Bradford
(I'm sure I've got your geography pegged, and if I haven't..then I'm sure I'm warm)
be careful when walking those dark streets at night, lest the hoardes of brown skinned savages should pounce upon your feeble frail whiteskinned frame....
MWHA-HA-HA-HAHAHHAHAAAAAA......
I'm bored with you Vienna, begone with you. Come back when you've had the labotomy.
One word of advice: be careful when walking the streets of (pick the one appropriate to you}
-Stoke
-Burnley
-Oldham
-Rochdale
-Halifax
-Preston
-Blackburn
-Manchester
-Salford
-Bolton
-Bradford
(I'm sure I've got your geography pegged, and if I haven't..then I'm sure I'm warm)
be careful when walking those dark streets at night, lest the hoardes of brown skinned savages should pounce upon your feeble frail whiteskinned frame....
MWHA-HA-HA-HAHAHHAHAAAAAA......
Listen Bitch, and I call you that because I feel we are friends now and I can use your first name, I have pimples on my ass that are more interesting than you. My bowel movements are more creative than your best efforts of impotent, pre-pubescent cries for help. I can't convey my disgust with words alone so I'll spit on this reply.
No hard feelings, huh? Have a nice... well, just go fuck yourself. No; wait - you are already doing that, you freak.
:D :D
Dr Lou Natic 03-30-04, 02:44 AM Whatever you say, Doc. After all, a guy caught up in a passionate argument whose reactions are limited by both a patience worn in a manner you cannot possibly understand as well as cultural boundaries is a whole lot worse than someone like you who goes out of your way to try to hurt people's feelings and make them feel bad
Obviously you side with the second option, why don't you just click it and shut your fucking mouth?
Ok so you disapprove of the word "retard", let it go, you clearly feel that pm deserves special treatment, so i think I have accomodated for you adequately enough.
And what the fuck do you know about me? is the fact i'm "not muslim" all you need to know to come to the conclusion that PM is a more "tortured soul" :rolleyes:
You're an ass kissing apologist. Your perspective starts with muslims being right and the west being wrong. It seems PM could rape you with a pitchfork and you'd blame your own goverment.
I actually wouldn't mind PM if we could feel safe to argue against him the way he argues with us. I think he is acting the way a human is supposed to act, but individuals of the western world are expected to be PC at all times. PM attacks the west visciously with his words implying he approves of terrorism and wants us to all burn in hell, guess what? I applaud him. I don't have a problem with this. Its classic inner-specific conflict and the ethologist in me thinks its beautifull.
But in this forum, and in society, it is conflict with one combatant tethered and muzzled, while the other tears at its flesh. Thats just ugly, let us go at it the way we are naturally supposed to go at it.
Is that such a big fucking ask?
You'll find it isn't in reality.
Obviously you side with the second option, why don't you just click it and shut your fucking mouth?That's ... stating your case well.
:rolleyes: Ok so you disapprove of the word "retard", let it go, you clearly feel that pm deserves special treatment, so i think I have accomodated for you adequately enoughNo. In this you're wrong. After all, you insist on being able to go out of your way to offend people. People like you, who have less to say than PM, are the ones getting special treatment.And what the fuck do you know about me? is the fact i'm "not muslim" all you need to know to come to the conclusion that PM is a more "tortured soulWhat? You can claim to know what it's like to be an Arab Muslim living in the West during this time of trial?
Get over yourself.You're an ass kissing apologistComing from someone as paranoid yet megalomaniacal as you, that's a reliable assessment.
:rolleyes: Your perspective starts with muslims being right and the west being wrong. You're only half-right, but there is no half-credit for a half-wit like yourself.
It's true that I think of the west as wrong, but if you'd ever bothered to pay attention to my more philosophical posts in the Religion forum, or if you were capable of understanding them in the first place, you would find that I dislike monotheism, and hold "right" as an abstraction and not something taking place within humanity on any large scale. Which conditions make it hard for me to claim that Muslims are right inasmuch as they're Muslims.
But someone like you ... what, you couldn't possibly see how that's relevant?
Look, Lou, it's not that you're obliged to read through all my posts in the Religion forum, but you might wish to consider that you demonstrate only ignorance and spite with these kinds of posts.It seems PM could rape you with a pitchfork and you'd blame your own goverment.Well, if I enjoyed it, I probably wouldn't complain. Beyond that, since I'm not particularly into pitchforks, I'd probably blame PM himself.I actually wouldn't mind PM if we could feel safe to argue against him the way he argues with us. You actually don't know how.
And it's not just PM. I watch people try to play turnabout all the time around here, and about 97% of them are absolute retards in that form.I think he is acting the way a human is supposed to act, but individuals of the western world are expected to be PC at all times. In the West, and especially in the conservative parts of Western politics and contemporary thought, there is a prevailing spite that is almost inexplicable. As liberalism sinks into blind anger in the West, it transforms from outrage into spite.
I mean, look at the Me! Me! Me! aspect of your post.
You do get to be inflammatory and ridiculous. You're just being petty and greedy. But that's to be expected. Not just because you're a Westerner, but also because you're Dr. Lou, and that's the precedent you set for yourself.But in this forum, and in society, it is conflict with one combatant tethered and muzzled, while the other tears at its flesh I'm aware of this; and with PM tethered and muzzled and pack of dogs circling him, I'm not just going to sit here and watch the feast.Thats just ugly, let us go at it the way we are naturally supposed to go at it.
Is that such a big fucking ask?
You'll find it isn't in reality. Actually, it is when your idea of going at it "naturally" involves wishing those who disagree with you silenced.
Remember that people have free reign here to talk about how we should bomb ____ (fill in the blank). Otheadp can advocate Israeli murders. Brad Rules was free to call for the extermination of all Muslims--except, of course, for a few of the women, who he thought were hot.
I think in reality you just need to quit whining, Lou.
everneo 03-30-04, 04:31 PM ..and with PM tethered and muzzled and pack of dogs circling him, I'm not just going to sit here and watch the feast.
Well, You can do better than that. I happen to be one of those dogs often whenever PM barking at randomly. Infact PM does not require enyone to come to his resque, he enjoys and works hard to be in that situation.
PM represents nothing but his own ignorance and arrogance. I don't vote cause still i think there is hope to bring him on right track if he is not encouraged to continue on his current way of harming the very cause that he thinks he represents.
PM represents nothing but his own ignorance and arrogance. I don't vote cause still i think there is hope to bring him on right track if he is not encouraged to continue on his current way of harming the very cause that he thinks he represents. In other words, what? You still think there's time to strip his heritage, religion, and identity?
Hey, people at Sciforums can talk about killing all the ragheads, endorse the murder of Palestinian civilians, and accuse people of atrocities for the simple crime of disagreeing with the standard anti-Islamic party line.
And any number of Islamic-advocate posters have been subject to moderator or administrative action for saying things similar in intent to what Zionists, American jingoists, and Bushlovers can say regularly.
It's quite obvious that PM can take care of himself. It's the rest of y'all I worry about. I think it quite significant that so many of those other people will put such an effort into suspending their compassion, their sense of reality, and their intellects when they pause to consider issues related to Muslims. I don't vote cause still i think there is hope to bring him on right track if he is not encouraged to continue on his current way of harming the very cause that he thinks he represents.If you or I were to try to apply that equally, we'd go crazy.
Why single out the Muslim? Is it just easier?
everneo 03-31-04, 12:36 AM In other words, what? You still think there's time to strip his heritage, religion, and identity?
PM himself makes fun of those attributes with your active support.
Hey, people at Sciforums can talk about killing all the ragheads, endorse the murder of Palestinian civilians, and accuse people of atrocities for the simple crime of disagreeing with the standard anti-Islamic party line.
And any number of Islamic-advocate posters have been subject to moderator or administrative action for saying things similar in intent to what Zionists, American jingoists, and Bushlovers can say regularly.
PM tops the list of haters of all sort. That is the point of this thread.
It's quite obvious that PM can take care of himself. It's the rest of y'all I worry about. I think it quite significant that so many of those other people will put such an effort into suspending their compassion, their sense of reality, and their intellects when they pause to consider issues related to Muslims.
For a change, and for the sake of reality check, why don't you reply, with reason and logic, to any of PM's post disagreeing with any of his follies.? Soon you would be called a hypocrite / ignorant / self-rightious in big bold colored letters.
If you or I were to try to apply that equally, we'd go crazy.
Certainly not the craziest.
Why single out the Muslim? Is it just easier?
Yes, he made the job easiest by himself. If you don't find the odd and single out PM then you are clubbing all muslims with him.
Strange, you seemed to be worrying about the standard of the forums diving low but put your efforts to add more weight to the dead-weight (PM's indiscriminate hate threads/posts).
I still hope PM could be made to reduce his generalized rhetorics of hatred and to counter the replies with reason and logic.
PM himself makes fun of those attributes with your active support.Maybe you could clarify. We might be on two different paths looking at each other across a two-foot ditch.PM tops the list of haters of all sort. That is the point of this thread.His ranking is a matter of opinion.For a change, and for the sake of reality check, why don't you reply, with reason and logic, to any of PM's post disagreeing with any of his follies.? Soon you would be called a hypocrite / ignorant / self-rightious in big bold colored letters.I do. People tend to miss those occasions because I'm neither cussing him out at the time nor condemning all Muslims. Not everybody. But it's a consistent trend.Strange, you seemed to be worrying about the standard of the forums diving low but put your efforts to add more weight to the dead-weight (PM's indiscriminate hate threads/posts). I see a larger story at play, which dates back at least to a poster named Helen, who was abused as a Muslim by other posters despite being an Arab Christian, and we've had a string of defensive Arab and Muslim posters ever since.
The communication style has been simple; it's only through insistence by both sides of the war debates that graphic pictures of casualties aren't being censored. (The images and angry condemnations of the acts that led to the casualties were what seemed to upset people at the time.)
It's an ongoing story for those paying attention.I still hope PM could be made to reduce his generalized rhetorics of hatred and to counter the replies with reason and logic. We're all human. Some people are just more honest about their issues than others.
We've treated Muslims as second-class at best throughout our time at Sciforums, whether there were any here to debate with us or not.
Dr Lou Natic 03-31-04, 06:16 AM No. In this you're wrong. After all, you insist on being able to go out of your way to offend people.
I rarely offend people. I was just making sure that i could if ever the urge arose seeing as how PM does it all the time.
People like you, who have less to say than PM
CLASSIC!
Correction, pm opens his mouth more frequently than I do. Exactly how much more I have to say than pm is not measurable with current technology. Lets just say its a hell of alot.
What? You can claim to know what it's like to be an Arab Muslim living in the West during this time of trial?
Did I say that?
I said you don't know shit about me. And your post has ironically validated my statement perfectly.
Coming from someone as paranoid yet megalomaniacal as you, that's a reliable assessment
Where have I displayed paranoia? Oh wait "I" represent the west from your simpleton perspective. My mistake.
but if you'd ever bothered to pay attention to my more philosophical posts in the Religion forum, or if you were capable of understanding them in the first place
HAHAHA!!!
You are the one that confronts me on these forums. And you ALWAYS prove blatantly that you have no idea what I'm talking about. No I don't read your posts. I'm not interested in you. You come at me and show a complete ignorance of my views. You lump me with fucking political parties and if you knew anything about me you'd see that is inherently hilarious.
Lucky for you I'm the only one paying attention because you embarrass yourself when you attack me. Because you aren't attacking me. You're attacking western politics or something and for some reason you think I am the embodiment of those politics when in reality I have nothing to do with them.
I ran foul with you when I insulted PM, pure and simple, now you try to drag me into a political debate that I have no interest in. I was insulting some maniac who turns out to be muslim(I guess the name should have been a give away), I was looking at his ridiculous words. And now according to you I'm a megalomaniac patriotic american(not even american) that has a grudge against muslims.
This automatically proves you never read my posts and have no idea what my views are. If you were a little more clued in you'd know I couldn't give 2 shits about human politics from the intra-perspective. I look at them from the outside. The same way i look at lion politics(which are much more interesting btw).
You can't even fathom a world view like mine, because you are a monkey caught up in the semantics of your species cute little behavioural structure.
Like a salmon seriously discussing the details of his migratory route.
I don't care which waterfall will be the biggest challenge for you this year.
The ironic thing is you think I'm petty.
you would find that I dislike monotheism, and hold "right" as an abstraction and not something taking place within humanity on any large scale. Which conditions make it hard for me to claim that Muslims are right inasmuch as they're Muslims
The bears are gonna be tough this year man, how do think we should weave between their legs? Left right left or right left right?
But someone like you ... what, you couldn't possibly see how that's relevant?
I KNOW it isn't relevent.
Look, Lou, it's not that you're obliged to read through all my posts in the Religion forum
No I certainly am not. If you, however, are going to be making statements about what kind of person I am and what my beliefs are that are hysterically wrong then I suggest you do read my posts to prevent future embarrassments like this one.
but you might wish to consider that you demonstrate only ignorance and spite with these kinds of posts
What kind of posts? What am I saying? Down with muslims right?:rolleyes: Must be, I used the word muslim somewhere and I haven't been saying down with america yet.
You're so incredibly basic for a cyborg.
And it's not just PM. I watch people try to play turnabout all the time around here, and about 97% of them are absolute retards in that form.In the West, and especially in the conservative parts of Western politics and contemporary thought, there is a prevailing spite that is almost inexplicable. As liberalism sinks into blind anger in the West, it transforms from outrage into spite
*Tiassabot generate generic anti-america attack*
:rolleyes:
This could not have less to do with me.
I mean, look at the Me! Me! Me! aspect of your post
Hows the Please don't look at me angle working for you? Is it even intentional?
You do get to be inflammatory and ridiculous. You're just being petty and greedy. But that's to be expected. Not just because you're a Westerner, but also because you're Dr. Lou, and that's the precedent you set for yourself.
Thanks for the evidence for my argument.
I'm aware of this; and with PM tethered and muzzled and pack of dogs circling him, I'm not just going to sit here and watch the feast.Actually, it is when your idea of going at it "naturally" involves wishing those who disagree with you silenced
You don't actually read these posts I write do you? You just go into anti-anti-muslim mode when you think you can smell a situation that calls for it. And its funny seeing how uncalled for an argument can concievably be. If I said something abstract about muslims that wasn't even insulting them I am certain you would come in guns blazing defending them, calling me a "megalomaniac" and blah b fucking blah, speaking jibberish irrelevent to what I actually said. I think I'll test this hypothosis. I'm confident that even though you've been cautioned you'll fall for it.
You are a machine tiassa
You have a few arguments, and you scan the forums searching for a place to insert them, you can't address a topic that isn't already stored in your memory banks.
I find you hilarious. I never paid much attention to you before. I don't think your inadequacies usually stand out like this because usually you are aiming this argument at people it is relevent to. People in the same trivial game as you but on the other team. Ants vs termites, I'm the naturalist crouching over the termite mound. And your chemical messages are being wasted when they are sent in my direction.
Remember that people have free reign here to talk about how we should bomb ____ (fill in the blank). Otheadp can advocate Israeli murders. Brad Rules was free to call for the extermination of all Muslims--except, of course, for a few of the women, who he thought were hot.
They do? Then fine, I specifically said I was just making sure, this thread couldn't have less to do with muslims vs the west. But you can't pick up on any thing that subtle. I muttered the term pm, I appear to have a little spice in my tone.... anti-american Cyborg attack inevitable.
Porfiry 04-03-04, 10:14 PM http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=34376
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