Prophet Yahweh UFO Video

Qorl

02-08-06, 07:30 AM

Anomalous

02-08-06, 07:45 AM

so what are U doing in Pseudoscience ?

phlogistician

02-08-06, 08:03 AM

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02-08-06, 09:50 AM

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Qorl

02-08-06, 10:30 AM

phlogistician

When a man is wrong and won't admit is, he always gets angry. ~ Thomas Haliburton

Anger and hatred are the materials from which hell is made. ~ Thich Nhat Hanh

Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing in at someone else -- You are the one who gets burned. ~ The Buddha

Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding. ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it. ~ Jack Nicklaus

There is no enemy more vicious than your own anger. ~ Sathya Sai Baba

For every minute you are angry, you lose sixty seconds of happiness. ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

Anger is a brief madness. ~ Horace, Epistles, Book I, 20 B.C.

Anger supplies arms. ~ Virgil, Aeneid, 19 B.C.

You can't catch water with a fist. ~ JoJo Jensen, Dirt Farmer Wisdom, 2002

If you are patient in one moment of anger you will avoid one hundred days of sorrow. ~ Ancient Proverb

Anomalous

02-08-06, 10:32 AM

Your Avatar looks angry and is shouting too

Communist Hamster

02-08-06, 10:34 AM

------Skeptics (non thinkers) should not reply on this thread because they are not intelligent enough to see the truth. If they will, I'm right.------
So you only want people who will agree with you unquestioningly to post here?

Giambattista

02-08-06, 10:45 AM

Everyone in this forum accusing me for being delusional hearing voices from God - aliens. Below is a link to a video of a man hearing voices from Yahweh (Jesus God). Whenever he hear voices the UFO appears, until now he saw more than thousands UFO's. A TV crew pick a date, a time and a place to make sure it's not a mambo-jumbo, UFO appeared. Watch a video than speak about my delusions. ;)

Copy from net;
This is the actual interview Prophet Yahweh had with a Las Vegas reporter. During the interview, the prophet prayed and a UFO appeared and was caught on tape by the cameraman.
http://www.ufodigest.com/video.html

------Skeptics (non thinkers) should not reply on this thread because they are not intelligent enough to see the truth. If they will, I'm right.------

--Only open minded please!--
Peace!

I believe that this Ramon character is actually summoning humanly-controlled lighter-than-air devices. He has this certain thing about summoning on windy days (or also, I believe, cloudy?). Could it be because these particular weather patterns decrease his control over his craft?

He also has a peculiarly anti-homosexual theology. It is very prominent in much of his writing.

I'm having trouble being open-minded about Ramon Watkins (aka Prophet Yahweh). I think it might behoove you to look into his personal character and his personal views of religion.

http://www.prophetyahweh.com/

His website is a little hard to navigate. Last time I checked it, things were in disarray from a supposed hack-attack.

And if you feel REALLY adventurous, check out this site about Bible codes:
www.hiddencodes.com/ramon/index.htm

According to this, he is possibly a mind-controlled CIA asset. Oh, and at the bottom of the page, the photo analysis "clearly" shows that he has reptilian scales! :rolleyes:

Giambattista

02-08-06, 10:47 AM

Wiolawa.

Woowoo.

Giambattista

02-08-06, 10:48 AM

Check out Wiolawa Press. It'll mutilate your goat.

SkinWalker

02-08-06, 10:50 AM

This is a prime example of the so-called "woo-woo" position that skeptics are "non-thinkers" and the so-called "woo-woo" is the one that is open-minded. If a "woo-woo" does indeed exist, he/she is clearly anything but open-minded since that person only looks for data which supports the conclusion he/she has already arrived at.

It is the skeptic who is truly open-minded. The skeptic not only includes the alleged "woo-woo's" position but also evaluates it compared to other hypotheses. That the skeptic views the alternative, and often more mundane and prosaic, hypotheses to be more probable and doubts the veracity of the evidence presented by the so-called "woo-woo" is the reason why the alleged "woo-woo" wrongly dismisses the skeptic as "close-minded." The skeptic refuses to buy into the "woo-woo's" belief system and close-minded view of the universe.

cato

02-08-06, 11:36 AM

did anyone mention the fact that the "prophen yaway" was a fraud? they were weatherballoons. there is a picture of him with said balloons on the net somewhere.

Qorl

02-08-06, 11:37 AM

Look,
I check out this guy, I saw things but nothing could convert me in to anyone's thinking. God is my leader and I'm listening to him and nobody else. He gives me signs thru people that are not aware what is their own meaning in this planet. There are people born that really don't understand the real or any thing about God. If he contact them; they are like - more than God. He ''could'' be controlled by CIA, but CIA is like a bird in a cage when the God is in question. God contact him and show UFO'S. His meaning on this planet is to be what he is. Bible codes are the same as Aghata Christie.
Anti-homosexual theology doesn't exist in any Bible, it is a product of a free will that priests created and people who think they are someone's in Gods eyes. Do you think that God is more stupid than we are today? God created homo, bi, and heterosexuals! I am straight, but have nothing against anyone.

SkinWalker

Not everyone could see a truth - Qorl

Truth is from before creation. (Mai ka po mai ka oiaio) ~ Hawaiian Proverb
Fiction is the truth inside the lie.~ Stephen King
Truth has no special time of its own. Its hour is now-- always. ~ Albert Schweitzer
If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. ~ Albert Einstein
Not Truth, but Faith it is that keeps the world alive. ~ Edna St. Vincent Millay, Interim
"If you cannot find the truth right where you are, where else do you <expectations.htm> to find it?" ~ Dogen

cato
Weatherballoons are 50 years old.

cato

02-08-06, 07:48 PM

Qorl=Troll
http://www.prophetyahweh.funtigo.com/?cr=1&rfm=y
ya'know, I quit this asinine close minded "I am right and you are wrong because god said so" thread.

VitalOne

02-08-06, 08:21 PM

Doesn't Jesus say that many false prophets will come and claim to be Christ?

Mr Anonymous

02-08-06, 08:34 PM

superluminal

02-08-06, 08:50 PM

Woo Woo! (chugga-chugga, chugga-chugga) Woo Wooooo!

leopold99

02-08-06, 09:54 PM

Everyone in this forum accusing me for being delusional hearing voices from God - aliens.

what does god and these aliens say to you?

leopold99

02-08-06, 09:57 PM

So you only want people who will agree with you unquestioningly to post here?
sounds like someone else we know

leopold99

02-08-06, 10:00 PM

leopold99

02-08-06, 10:04 PM

------Skeptics (non thinkers) should not reply on this thread because they are not intelligent enough to see the truth. If they will, I'm right.------

the truth is Qorl, randi still has his money

have you seen any medical professionals?
i'm serious Qorl, hearing voices in your head that come from god is one of the signs of being delusional

RickyH

02-09-06, 12:38 AM

the truth is Qorl, randi still has his money

have you seen any medical professionals?
i'm serious Qorl, hearing voices in your head that come from god is one of the signs of being delusional

HAHAHA..... I'll leave it at what leopold said.

Qorl

02-09-06, 12:56 AM

HAHAHA..... I'll leave it at what leopold said.

Why you're using a computer? You have none idea what technology is.

Qorl

02-09-06, 01:01 AM

Qorl

02-09-06, 01:02 AM

Did I told you that God created a robots with a free will. Everyone on this planet is a ROBOT.

Qorl

02-09-06, 01:05 AM

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I am already in hell.
I don't know why aliens created me then, maybe just to entertain them. I am sick and tired of this stupid witting also but I have no free will.

Communist Hamster

02-09-06, 01:51 AM

Praise be!
Goodbye Qorl. Enjoy your delusions.

phlogistician

02-09-06, 03:55 AM

Qorl, you are a buffoon. 'Prophet' Yahweh made predictions that didn't come true.

He is a fraud, and you are a simpleton for mentioning him.

On the subject of prophecies, you said there were would a 'tragedy' at the Winter Olympics, well, the opening ceremony is Friday, I believe. Care to give us some more detail, so you too, can be proven false?

phlogistician

02-09-06, 06:36 AM

Leave you alone? You chose to come and here and risk ridicule. Well, you have it. If you want to be left alone, SHUT UP

duendy

02-09-06, 06:37 AM

i agree wid u about 'robots'. i see these materialists just like that. you see they will believe ferevently that they are some kind of glorified computer tingamejig that is totally unconnected in a deep way with dynamic of reality. so they just go along like bull in a chian shop toxicating everything --both psychologcallyand physically/ cause they 'know' 'when yer dead yer dead' so 'why the fuk should I worry? about life, quality of life, fabric of life, generations to come, and so on. they are robots cause their philosophy is robotic. what they believe they become is what i mean. look at how grossly insentitive theyare here wit people experiencing stuff they dont understand. they just insult. they REGUTTER SNIPES. NOTACT. NO SENSITIVITY WHATSOEER. LIKE A ROBOT. HARD METAL ROBOT WITH NOSENUSAL FEELING.....no i aint gone main. just looked up and seen caps

as for you Quorl and what you say. i persohall have no time for the 'God' thang. i see 'hih' the god wid the capital 'G' lordin it over things as writ in patriarchal myth as an...UPSTART. iew., he is rather an invention of a patriachal mindset wich fears and wants to control Nature

rather i dig Goddess more, or beteer 'Goddessing'. for with the Goddess, its a whole new sphere-game. theEarth IS he BODY. she aint no hovering architect lookin 'down' on it and her 'creatures'. oh no. earth is her body. in metaphorical terms tis means Nature is sentient. als universe is her body too
so Earth, Nature, universe and all creation I creaTIVE. it is wonder...wonderFULL. patriarchal mythlogical propganda attemptes ro split tis wonder. so we get 'spirit' versus Nature. mind versus body and so on

explore this. itis truly healing and depthless . a never-ending journey of creativity...

Communist Hamster

02-09-06, 02:00 PM

In fact I take back what I said earlier. Don't enjoy your delusions, seek help! Hearing voices in your head is not normal, and if they are saying what you claim they are saying then it is certainly not God, because He loves everyone equally. There is no reason He should pick on you. Get some therapy NOW, before the voices start telling you to kill.

RickyH

02-09-06, 05:10 PM

Why you're using a computer? You have none idea what technology is.

Well, you don't have 'none" english skills. So whats your point? Can you prove i have no knowledge of technology? I don't think so. I beleive i have a better idea of what it is then you do. Its not like i spent my whole life having "none" idea of what technology is.

Mr Anonymous

02-09-06, 06:50 PM

Rick? Qorl isn't actualy english. Given the fact he's having to translate everything both ways, actually his english skills are pretty damn good...

I am already in hell.
I don't know why aliens created me then, maybe just to entertain them. I am sick and tired of this stupid witting also but I have no free will.

Oh, Qorl old man, even in the tenants of your own beliefs, God created freewill - granted, He did make something of a song and dance about regarding Adam & Eve and the consequences of nibbling on a certain fruit from a certain tree - but he never once physically prevented either parties either inquiring or infact acting upon their newly acquired curiosity regarding such matters.

In short, His Nibs said "I'd rather you didn't, and if you do there's a price to pay..." but choice, free will was always on the menu.

Of course, old Adam and the misses probably didn't quite see it in such terms, but you can read and you do actually have a choice.

Now, unlike my esteemed colleagues here, I believe you implicitly when y'say God's talking too you, telling you things, never shutting the fuck up... Enough to make a chap ponder quite who's running the Universe really if all God's got to do with his day is make you feel small and worthless and sick as hell.

You need to talk these things through with someone other than God, and I'd imagine God's had a fair bit to say to you about that matter - but's that's just like the story of Adam & Eve and the apple.

Everyone lived to tell the tale, even though His Nibs had made things pristinely clear to begin with how things stood with him - Adam & Eve disobeyed a direct instruction and still went on to populate a planet.

And remember here. They weren't going by anything written down in anything so mundane as a mere Book - there was only them and Him and everyone got on relatively fine afterwards despite all the threats of eternal damnation, etc.

You'll prosper no less, I suggest you talk it through with a Doctor. Just a regular one for starters, see if he can't do anything about those infernal head aches you've been getting and getting a good nights sleep.

Where y'go from there is your own business my strange friend, but even His Nibs isn't going to begrudge a chap taking something for a head ache and getting a few nights proper sleep - no matter how much He may may appear to disapprove - always remember what didn't happen to Adam & Eve and lets someone who knows what they're doing help you along.

See a doctor, tomorrow. No excuses. ;)

Qorl

02-09-06, 07:33 PM

Leave you alone? You chose to come and here and risk ridicule. Well, you have it. If you want to be left alone, SHUT UP
I mean that God should leave me alone.

Qorl

02-09-06, 07:37 PM

Well, you don't have 'none" english skills. So whats your point? Can you prove i have no knowledge of technology? I don't think so. I beleive i have a better idea of what it is then you do. Its not like i spent my whole life having "none" idea of what technology is.
From your last post I told you that you have no knowledge about technology. Not our but Gods technology. You don't wanna know.

Qorl

02-09-06, 07:40 PM

Qorl

02-09-06, 09:13 PM

RickyH

02-09-06, 10:58 PM

From your last post I told you that you have no knowledge about technology. Not our but Gods technology. You don't wanna know.

Please tell me about "Gods Technology" I'm so curious to know of such a thing. I imagine he has tons of aliens at his disposal at any given moment. Oh no, I bet he has people like you go onto online forums and speak the rhetoric of the divine UFOs. The prophet of Yahweh will call upon his mighty army of UFOs "Hallelujah". For God is so infinite in power he needs UFOs.

Did you ever take into consideration that god does not have ANY need for air craft? Well, nevermind. I'm sure he has a tough time talking to the world as it is. I mean of course he used to speak through bushes. Whatever happened to good ol' fashioned talking bushes? Probably died when God discovered his inifinite use for UFOs.
.
Well, I'm sure he is telling you at this very moment that revelations will began with a sudden flash of light. Something seen form the north, east, south, and west. Then Jesus will appear to walk out of a UFO on a white horse, followed by his army of Jews dressed in all white. Because we all know God loves his new found UFOs. I wonder why he didn't use these before? I mean he is ominecent correct? Perhaps he knows we will learn of his new found word through the Prophet Yahweh, and his UFOs.

But then again, he could be speaking through you. Possibly through his infinite wisdom he knows that you are the best messenger to use anothers actions to further your proof. After all every other prophet has done so. :bugeye: If god really speaks to you he would give us a sign of such actions. He would not in any case give you the internet and tell you to preach the gosphel.

But, then again what do I know about the Bibles technology. I figure a prophet of God would not be such an, how should I say this.... imbecile. I'm sure every prophet of the Lord will jump to such conclusions as to say some one does not have any knowledge of something. I mean Jesus did it all the time.... :bugeye:

You could never have the Lord speak to you because you jump to conclusions upon another human being so narcissistically. But, then again what do I know? I"m just a ragamuffin. Some one who will never know of God and his infinite need for technology.

Mr Anonymous

02-10-06, 12:07 AM

Y'know, funnily enough, were you an orthodox Jew actually that particular aspect of the perception of God is very much a central issue - there is no Devil in rebidic Judaism, only God who, indeed, may fuck one over royally if He wishes wishes...

But this isn't a theology debate, or even a questioning of your specific beliefs Qorl - this is just simply about telling your problems to someone who can actually help you and allowing them to do that for you. Help you.

Now, if you can tell us here on the Internet something about the nature of your problems, you can do it in words in your own native language a damn sight easier.

Yes, the person you talk to will doubt the nature of your experiences, no different from people here. This isn't about changing things or doing the impossible - this is just about getting some help to get a little bit of peace and a little bit of rest just through good natural sleep without any bad dreams or nightmares getting in the way.

Now this you can get done, with help. We, unfortunately can do very little except wish you well and suggest you try.

If you've been trying, try harder. You don't need to do anything drastic or silly, just talk this through with your family doctor and that's all you need to do - you don't even have to accept his or her help if you don't want to, but ask for the help first then decide.

I realise for you this must be like being told to do something silly by children who simply don't know enough to understand - but there's often wisdom in that and a reason for it being said.

See you're doctor. Tell them the truth as you see it. That's all.

Communist Hamster

02-10-06, 01:49 AM

Qorl, please seek treatment. It's for your own good. There is no point in continuing to have these voices and delusions in your head, they are obviously hurting you.

phlogistician

02-10-06, 03:16 AM

Qorl isn't actualy english. Given the fact he's having to translate everything both ways, actually his english skills are pretty damn good...

Don't you think it's hilarious that a madman with English as a second language is easier to understand that duendy? ;-)

duendy

02-10-06, 04:09 AM

Don't you think it's hilarious that a madman with English as a second language is easier to understand that duendy? ;-)
you mean 'easier to understand that duendy'...yeahhh, THAT makes sense, raaas claaat (suks teeth)

duendy

02-10-06, 04:16 AM

duendy

Humans are robots, just look at politicians or scientists or any who else. They believe in one thing like robots. Just like I do in myself or you in you. If Goddess have no power, there is a male God who controls everything.
yes. i see em as robots. but they ae not REALLY robots. they act the waythey do cause what they believe--and have been indoctrinated in, since kids

as for wat you going through. you are obviously in conflict. and as i see it you have gotten suked intothe patriarchal mythology big time.
you see thats what it did. thge patriarchal mythology has it tha there is this 'eye of God' like some fukin CCTV camera in the sky. busy watchin our every move with a judgin eye.......this 'eye' is ofcourse the male who made tis crap up. and tis belief becomes YOU. you are that 'eye' watching you. so its like the fukin mythic roots of pranoia--literally meaning 'beside yourself'

you need to wash tis crap away. i would suggest reading some Alan Watts. this amazing dude really helped me. i took psychedelics when very young, and had great experiences, but being no support after, i struggled to integrate the experience. well it was find a book by Aaln Watts which realy really put things togther for me

iam

02-10-06, 04:25 AM

There is a bigger picture about someone innocent like me. He doesn't loves me and my life is a prove I'm right.

Aww..He is so cute!

Qorl

02-10-06, 06:00 AM

Please tell me about "Gods Technology" I'm so curious to know of such a thing. I imagine he has tons of aliens at his disposal at any given moment. Oh no, I bet he has people like you go onto online forums and speak the rhetoric of the divine UFOs. The prophet of Yahweh will call upon his mighty army of UFOs "Hallelujah". For God is so infinite in power he needs UFOs.

Did you ever take into consideration that god does not have ANY need for air craft? Well, nevermind. I'm sure he has a tough time talking to the world as it is. I mean of course he used to speak through bushes. Whatever happened to good ol' fashioned talking bushes? Probably died when God discovered his inifinite use for UFOs.
.
Well, I'm sure he is telling you at this very moment that revelations will began with a sudden flash of light. Something seen form the north, east, south, and west. Then Jesus will appear to walk out of a UFO on a white horse, followed by his army of Jews dressed in all white. Because we all know God loves his new found UFOs. I wonder why he didn't use these before? I mean he is ominecent correct? Perhaps he knows we will learn of his new found word through the Prophet Yahweh, and his UFOs.

But then again, he could be speaking through you. Possibly through his infinite wisdom he knows that you are the best messenger to use anothers actions to further your proof. After all every other prophet has done so. :bugeye: If god really speaks to you he would give us a sign of such actions. He would not in any case give you the internet and tell you to preach the gosphel.

But, then again what do I know about the Bibles technology. I figure a prophet of God would not be such an, how should I say this.... imbecile. I'm sure every prophet of the Lord will jump to such conclusions as to say some one does not have any knowledge of something. I mean Jesus did it all the time.... :bugeye:

You could never have the Lord speak to you because you jump to conclusions upon another human being so narcissistically. But, then again what do I know? I"m just a ragamuffin. Some one who will never know of God and his infinite need for technology.

Man you live in a MATRIX. We are not batteries as it shown in he movie bet everything else is the same. MATRIX man.

Qorl

02-10-06, 06:03 AM

Don't you think it's hilarious that a madman with English as a second language is easier to understand that duendy? ;-)
Third language.

Qorl

02-10-06, 06:04 AM

yes. i see em as robots. but they ae not REALLY robots. they act the waythey do cause what they believe--and have been indoctrinated in, since kids

as for wat you going through. you are obviously in conflict. and as i see it you have gotten suked intothe patriarchal mythology big time.
you see thats what it did. thge patriarchal mythology has it tha there is this 'eye of God' like some fukin CCTV camera in the sky. busy watchin our every move with a judgin eye.......this 'eye' is ofcourse the male who made tis crap up. and tis belief becomes YOU. you are that 'eye' watching you. so its like the fukin mythic roots of pranoia--literally meaning 'beside yourself'

you need to wash tis crap away. i would suggest reading some Alan Watts. this amazing dude really helped me. i took psychedelics when very young, and had great experiences, but being no support after, i struggled to integrate the experience. well it was find a book by Aaln Watts which realy really put things togther for me

I know what you mean, but God show me that humans are robots if he wont's them so.

duendy

02-10-06, 06:19 AM

never mind 'God showed me'...what do YOU think??

duendy

02-10-06, 06:31 AM

you mean like a compulsion? a sense of being driven?

phlogistician

02-10-06, 07:26 AM

you mean 'easier to understand that duendy'...yeahhh, THAT makes sense, raaas claaat (suks teeth)

Oh well done you semi literate moron, you caught me out with a typo! Your criticism of my error doesn't even make grammatical sense!

Jesus, you couldn't even aspire to make just one error per post!

duendy

02-10-06, 07:44 AM

Oh well done you semi literate moron, you caught me out with a typo! Your criticism of my error doesn't even make grammatical sense!

Jesus, you couldn't even aspire to make just one error per post!
are you stalkin me wordsmith. isss you'll gettin obSESSED wid me? huh??

phlogistician

02-10-06, 07:51 AM

are you stalkin me wordsmith. isss you'll gettin obSESSED wid me? huh??

It's a forum you paranoid loon. People reply to each other's posts, that's how it works. Here's a tip, if you are going to criticise someone for spelling etc, make sure your own post is free from errors, or it makes you look stupid. I should rephrase that, in your case, it make you look more stupid. Everyone knows you are stupid.

Of course, you interjected in a response by me to Mr Anonymous. Seems like it's you seeking me out for conversation, duendy.

duendy

02-10-06, 08:01 AM

It's a forum you paranoid loon. People reply to each other's posts, that's how it works. Here's a tip, if you are going to criticise someone for spelling etc, make sure your own post is free from errors, or it makes you look stupid.

me))but you DID make an error didn't you---stuuupido??

I should rephrase that, in your case, it make you look more stupid. Everyone knows you are stupid.

me)))haha the 10 year old that yo are ...merrrr merrr me merrrrr merrr-level. sad or what?

Of course, you interjected in a response by me to Mr Anonymous. Seems like it's you seeking me out for conversation, duendy.
me???? NEVER. you aint got any!

phlogistician

02-10-06, 09:12 AM

Oh yes, duendy, I made a typo! You caught me stepping on the cracks in the pavement!

I make typos every now and again, because I pretty much touch type, and don't always review my posts. So in two decades of professional computer use, I'm not a perfect typist. Shame on me!

What's your excuse? Still using the 'my batteries are dead' line? Haven't managed to get down the shops in six months?

That doesn't explain all your errors, I don't think you could spell given a decent keyboard.

I haven't got time to pick you up on all your errors. I wouldn't know where to start, there could be various answers, depending on how one interprets your gibberish.

Light

02-10-06, 09:24 AM

It's a forum you paranoid loon. People reply to each other's posts, that's how it works. Here's a tip, if you are going to criticise someone for spelling etc, make sure your own post is free from errors, or it makes you look stupid. I should rephrase that, in your case, it make you look more stupid. Everyone knows you are stupid.

Of course, you interjected in a response by me to Mr Anonymous. Seems like it's you seeking me out for conversation, duendy.
Ha-ha! That was funny - her accusing you of stalking her. She did the same to me. But actually it was more like tripping over her half-conscious body lying in the street in her usual drug-induced stupor. Oh yeah - and don't forget she's opposed to real, useful drugs too! What a muddled old hag. :bugeye:

duendy

02-10-06, 10:04 AM

duendy

02-10-06, 10:08 AM

Ha-ha! That was funny - her accusing you of stalking her. She did the same to me.

me>>>>>>>to YOU, you smelly old fart? i would hide if i seen yer comin'.

But actually it was more like tripping over her half-conscious body lying in the street in her usual drug-induced stupor.

me>>>>>>>you could do wid some reaaal Typin. migh break ya out of your sorry hate-filled self.

Oh yeah - and don't forget she's opposed to real, useful drugs too! What a muddled old hag. :bugeye:
what makes me larf about you you old fraud. is you har on about 'The Shadow' yet i've not seen anyone hee attack it like you do. no.... not ANy one. professor
psychologist...!

Light

02-10-06, 11:21 AM

what makes me larf about you you old fraud. is you har on about 'The Shadow' yet i've not seen anyone hee attack it like you do. no.... not ANy one. professor
psychologist...!
Then you're still in a distant second place. There are LOTS of things about you that make me "larf" at you! :D

DwayneD.L.Rabon

02-10-06, 01:55 PM

Light your are a stocker, just like pho pho, what worse neathier of you can ever back up any thing you say with any real facts.

If people want to see a real ufo then they can vist seattle, wa. where thay have one that every one can see, it cost 11 dollars for adults, 7 dollars for children and infants are free.

DwayneD.L.Rabon

RickyH

02-10-06, 03:54 PM

Man you live in a MATRIX. We are not batteries as it shown in he movie bet everything else is the same. MATRIX man.

Where did you ever get this from? What exactly are you talking about? Because it is completely irrelevant to the conversation I put up. Besides, I never implied that any one are batteries from any where. I implied that you're ignorant.

Communist Hamster

02-10-06, 04:02 PM

He hears voices, and suffers from paranoid delusions. There are drugs for that sort of thing.

Qorl

02-10-06, 04:07 PM

you mean like a compulsion? a sense of being driven?
Yes, remote controlled.

iam

02-10-06, 04:08 PM

Where did you ever get this from? What exactly are you talking about? Because it is completely irrelevant to the conversation I put up. Besides, I never implied that any one are batteries from any where. I implied that you're ignorant.

rofl..this thread is hilarious

duendy

02-10-06, 04:14 PM

Yes, remote controlled.
ie., as in involuntary. do us a favour. just google 'alan watts voluntary involuntary' he can explain it more eloquently than me

Qorl

02-10-06, 04:29 PM

Ricky Houy
I didn't mean to speak this way. I was just talking about technology of God that is Matrix, believeth or not man you and me live in a Matrix. Maybe I'm really ignorant because I do everything with no proof, I relay on my thoughts that I'm getting from someone, that one I call God. If you watched a movie matrix you could saw that humans are actually batteries, that's why I mentioned we are not. But we do have a virtual memory that is given to us by God when we are born. If you don't believe in this one than ask yourself why only humans of all beings on this planet speaks and create.
You know I don't really know what's going one, I have no proof of who I am or who is doing this to me any more. I know I'm not crazy, this is all I know. But I'm sure 100% that somebody is controlling me with some kind a reason. If this is God than I don't know why he chose me. Maybe because I'm fearless. Forget about me.

http://alienmatrix.tripod.com/alienmatrix.html

duendy

02-10-06, 04:43 PM

alright, i hear you. for me, my definition of matrix--as in your --theme, if you like--is semntic reality. i see it created via indoctrination. so for example a myth is a matrix. itis a way of understanding reality.....now when a matrix is negative is when it is opprssive. i feel a matrix now which is a materialist matrix which tries to OBSCURE Nature.......a great exmple of what i mean. Ralph Metzner went to the South American jungle and too a psychedelic ,Ayahuasca. he was really disturbed cause his visions were all gaudy, neon lights, cheap, plastic etc-----this eally freaked him. but he got insight to accept it and then he saw tis huge Serpent which kind of was deeply real and underlying everything. so he had seen THROUGH the matrix. the overlay culture tries to 'outdo' Nature

as for your question as to why it is humans who are creative. i dont tink it is ONLY who who are creative,and need an ousde agwncy, 'God' to 'give us' it. for i believe that Nature---all matter-energy is tingling wit consciousness--is sentient. so we are a form of this pervasive intelligence, but so is tree, animal, rock, wind, molecule, quark, etc etc etc

Qorl

02-10-06, 04:58 PM

duendy

Watch a movie Vanilla Sky and The 6th Day to fully understand of what kind of matrix I'm talking about. A matrix that God created. My writings are not reality because nobody believes that my claims might be true. What if I am right? Could you believe that your life (faith) was programmed in havens before you we're even born? All you have is a tiny bit of a free will, so we are more interesting for God. It is unbelievable, watch those two movies. Not impossible when God is in Question.
duendy,
Artificial intelligence, this world is moving too fast if you look with scientific eyes. Or with eyes that could see the truth, something is wrong.

duendy

02-11-06, 04:49 AM

what i feel is that you are lookin at the wrong bad guy!
the problems we have in tis world, since looong time back are not 'God-made'---for the very concept of a sky-god is man made--they are MAN-made

tis is really important for yo to explore. for i sense you are paranoid about very life itself

remember seeing ths docu. a while back. it was about m-brane theory. and part of it was a theory that a super advanced intelligence may have created us qit super technological computers, etc

well, can you now see that that idea is just a midified version of the patriarchal concept of an architect sky-god?

and any child wouold ask such unproveable suggestions. eg 'so who made 'God'? and/or 'so who made the advanced people who made us?' ad questions like thi can g into infinite regression. ie., so who mae the person who made the person? ...etc etc
meaningless.

tis world is amazing. look at Nature. get into it. really get into it. and see how man-who-follows-anti-nature-beliefs shits on it!

Qorl

02-11-06, 05:11 AM

I didn't say that this world is not real, I live by forest.
Peace

Communist Hamster

02-11-06, 05:42 AM

Qorl, your mind sees these movies, and the bit of it that talks to the rest of the mind via those "voices" merely repeats the ideas that it has seen in the movies. It's like a parrot living inside your head, only you believe that it is God. It isn't

Blindman

02-11-06, 05:51 AM

The question is whether we can exist inside the binary world of current CPU. Many say we can’t. But this does not suppose that there are other realms of computing.. There are some that say the universe is but one giant computer, others say that any machine beyond certain complexity will produce behaviours that we class as life.

It is a religious affair when contemplating the reason for being, the ether, the substance that support us is beyond us. Yours and the myriad of conjecture we humans have contemplated, are, and will always be, just metaphors of reality.

Qorl

02-11-06, 06:04 AM

Qorl

02-11-06, 06:07 AM

duendy

02-11-06, 06:35 AM

I believe that universe is one giant computer, like atoms.
this is quite acommon belief. when you look at te history of ideas you see mindsets influenced by their current science/technology assuming reality is aso that. so for example we had the idea of the 'clokwork universe' ala Issac Newton......ad Rene Descrtes with his pulleys and tubes to explian reality in connection with human brain....NOWit is the 'computer-universe' and we humans--according to their theory are some kind of glorified bio-computers

cqn you not see that this is just limited logic being used by a male mindset which is based on a materialistic philosophy?
the limits of what the KNOW they project onto reality

but reality cannot be GRASPED rationally

Qorl

02-11-06, 09:12 AM

duendy
Yes, I believe we are some kind bio-computers. It's limited logic because we do not accept the idea, We could be bio-computers. Don't you feel a limit's with this post? Reality is what you believe it is not always what you see. God is eternal, we are not. He knows everything, we don't. He doesn't makes mistakes, we do. If you take just last 3 statements of mine you could easily see that we have huge limits. Who believes in God this days? The ones who does have a limits on technology, like God is spiritual and he's meditating all the time. The ones who does they think; I don't want to pray in the church, I am more into technology I'm going with the time, God is a mit and spiritual to much. A big difference between belief and non belief. Everyone will like a proof of existence, if we will have one we would not try to think any more. Thinking and discovering make us intelligent or should I said free willing. Creation will make no sense. Watch a movie I Robot, it shows how a robot opened consciousness. Look back in your life when you were young. How many stupid things you did. Maybe you should take a look on a day before, you changed thinking about a certain thing and you don't know a reason why you did it. It's like today I think this way, tomorrow I will think differently. It doesn't matter in what kind of moment you are, you are right. You feel limit's on my post, but what if I'm right about my ''delusions'', What if we really are remote controlled?

I just watched a movie, House Of Flaying Daggers. It is Chinese and a masterpiece, art.

duendy

02-11-06, 10:53 AM

duendy
Yes, I believe we are some kind bio-computers.

me)))i do not

It's limited logic because we do not accept the idea, We could be bio-computers.

me)'could' doesn't mean we ARE

Don't you feel a limit's with this post?

mec)))dont understand what you mean

Reality is what you believe it is not always what you see.

me))true. sometimes people are dulled to the real wonder of reality

God is eternal, we are not. He knows everything, we don't. He doesn't makes mistakes, we do. If you take just last 3 statements of mine you could easily see that we have huge limits.

me)))like i've said before. you are pre-supposing a patriarchal concept of a 'God' who is a separate entity. i dont believe this. i believe ALL reality is sentient. is creative

Who believes in God this days? The ones who does have a limits on technology, like God is spiritual and he's meditating all the time. The ones who does they think; I don't want to pray in the church, I am more into technology I'm going with the time,

me)) see it that people have been SO mindfuked by the patriarchal propagada about reality that they now seek some kind of comfort in technology

God is a mit and spiritual to much.

me)whats that sentence mean?

A big difference between belief and non belief. Everyone will like a proof of existence, if we will have one we would not try to think any more. Thinking and discovering make us intelligent or should I said free willing.

me))well tats what ilike to do and encourage. free xploraton. you find tis difficult if you feel a 'God' breathin down ya neck!

Creation will make no sense. Watch a movie I Robot, it shows how a robot opened consciousness. Look back in your life when you were young. How many stupid things you did. Maybe you should take a look on a day before, you changed thinking about a certain thing and you don't know a reason why you did it. It's like today I think this way, tomorrow I will think differently. It doesn't matter in what kind of moment you are, you are right. You feel limit's on my post, but what if I'm right about my ''delusions'', What if we really are remote controlled?

me))but its 'what if' isn't it. look....i know that many people WILl feel that they have no control. this is the natureof ptriarcha indoctrination. PLEASE understand this. it is crucial. patriarca indoctrination via their myths seeks total control over the mind. MIND CONTROL. not 'God'--it is man-made myth. so explore THAT, and see thru it. begin exploring seeing through it. then you begin freeing yourself from its enclosing matrix

I just watched a movie, House Of Flaying Daggers. It is Chinese and a masterpiece, art.
are you familiar with Chinese Taoist philosophy?

Giambattista

02-11-06, 11:35 AM

:bugeye: Alright! What the hell's going on in here???

RickyH

02-11-06, 11:39 AM

Giambattista

02-11-06, 12:21 PM

Second off what technology is capable of creating the effect of love, emotions, and the abilty to think?

Isn't biology basically technology? What's the difference?

RickyH

02-11-06, 12:22 PM

Isn't biology basically technology? What's the difference?

No electricity. Thats only one though. Plus you could say there is a correlation between the two. But they both run off of different mechanics. Like there is no technonlgy able to procreate itself the way humans do. Plus we use chemicals such as the cannabanoids in your brain. While technonlgy would use no or fuels as chemicals.

Qorl

02-11-06, 12:46 PM

First off that would be impossible. Second off what technology is capable of creating the effect of love, emotions, and the abilty to think? But at that what techonlogy creates that but makes us obsolete?

Lets say I'm a Robot. When I will feel to refill my batteries I will go and do it. I got emotion of refilling even I am a robot. It is just like eating in human case. After a hungriness you fell fine, the same is with sex and love.

The ability to think is a free will, we are becoming self aware. People who didn't ask themselves questions who they are or how is this and that are not consciousness. They move as flies around the lights.

Watch a video and see for yourself what is human capable to do it.
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2682962?htv=12
Watch, than ask yourself, what is God capable?

Qorl

02-11-06, 12:48 PM

are you familiar with Chinese Taoist philosophy?

Some

Communist Hamster

02-11-06, 02:30 PM

No electricity. Thats only one though. Plus you could say there is a correlation between the two. But they both run off of different mechanics. Like there is no technonlgy able to procreate itself the way humans do. Plus we use chemicals such as the cannabanoids in your brain. While technonlgy would use no or fuels as chemicals.

There are electrical nerve impulses, I'd say they are fairly similar to technological thingies.
In concept, I'd say that the body is a machine, although in "execution" so to speak it is markedly different

duendy

02-11-06, 03:51 PM

There are electrical nerve impulses, I'd say they are fairly similar to technological thingies.
In concept, I'd say that the body is a machine, although in "execution" so to speak it is markedly different
yes VERY different. alrightone can use computer metaphors. for example. you can say a child is 'programmed' to believe an ideology. but tis is only an anology. it is in no way the same as programming a computer. and BENEATH any 'programmin', the child, or adult gets, is an infinity of meaning

when Qorl says he feels remote-controlled by 'God'. well so would ANY person aware of their religious indoctrination. take catholic guilt. some catholics even having lapsed from teir faith may feel tis indoctrination going on. feel that the 'eye of God' is watchin their every move, etc

theperson who believes in te Eastern religious concept of Karma might also feel like some kind of remote control. specially if their life is hard and they feel totally powerless. tho in their case it'd be a remote control of 'universal law'/karma'

whatsthe two got in common? it is what they is believing which makes them feel the reality they feel. so what they believe feels like actual reality for them

iam

02-11-06, 07:15 PM

Qorl,

The reason you feel like a 'robot' is because we are. We are genetically programmed and then we can be programmed, affected and even limited by our environment. There are even some nasty parasites which attach themselves to other organisms and affect chemical changes in their hosts brain to control behavior even to the extent of putting them in fatal danger. Even with our cognitive skills, we have to deal with the power of the subconscious which is not directly in our control. This is part of why asians are into 'meditation', it helps to gain more self-awareness and delves into our subconscious thereby facilitating the ability to do a 'cleaning house' of sorts if we choose to and gain more self-empowerment. We have resources to have control over our lives but not completely. The best advice I can give you is look into meditation. Change what you can, let the rest go for another time. Don't give up hope but be ready for opportunity. Patience.

RickyH

02-11-06, 07:56 PM

Lets say I'm a Robot. When I will feel to refill my batteries I will go and do it. I got emotion of refilling even I am a robot. It is just like eating in human case. After a hungriness you fell fine, the same is with sex and love.

The ability to think is a free will, we are becoming self aware. People who didn't ask themselves questions who they are or how is this and that are not consciousness. They move as flies around the lights.

Watch a video and see for yourself what is human capable to do it.
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2682962?htv=12
Watch, than ask yourself, what is God capable?

Comming from some one who got this from a movie you must be right! Well I can see the correlation between the two. With certain points and what not.

But the fact of the matter is simple. We have feelings such as pain, hurt, anger, depression. Any machine designed to create this is simply programmed to feel suc.

We have a different type of program. We have little wave traveling through our body that triggers other emotions besides

"I feel <$pain/>' //echo "Send <$pain wave/>" <parse with $pain/>
<body/>

It stimulates other chemicals released ot numb or calm the pain effect. As well most machine do not have free will. Some have self awareness.

But programming free will is something unobtainable. Because a machine could never come up with a complex answer on free will. He would not have the chose of who he hates or what he likes. It would all be code.

We would not be able to grow hair out of dead cells. A machine would grow hair out of synthetic hair. But you could simply counter all of what I said with "How do you know our creators were capable of such things?"

It is simple to answer this though. Most likely because our creatures would not be able to create some effects. The abilty to chose wether you are correct or wrong.

A machine would not be able to destroy itself correct? But daily we commit suicide. We have complex societys and an unmeasureable amount of free will. It would take a person centuries at a human rate to program such things. There are almost an endless amount of things to program. Making it nearly impossible.

Like do they create new actions for technology the moment it is created? I don't see how such could be possible. But like I said there is a correlation between the two and there is a chance you are correct. I am only saying I don't see how it could be.

Qorl

02-12-06, 04:32 AM

iam,
I don't feel exactly like that, I don't have problems with a felling of a robot. I just give example of God's creation to Ricky Houy.

Qorl

02-12-06, 10:48 AM

RickyH

02-12-06, 12:34 PM

Ricky Houy

I can not explain in English as I would like to that's why I give examples form movies. I was thinking about this things before I even saw any movie. We are not exactly robots, but we are artificially intelligent. Our creators are capable to do everything you wish or think. How do I know? They show me thru emotions and somehow else that can not be explained.

Interesting. But still it still doesn't explain why they could create such things as cells, molecules, or nucluer chemicals to have such an effect. Or the fact we know how to invent. I do not think even artificial intelligence is capible of creating something like the the Statue of Liberty, without being told to draw and construct it.

Now on the other hand that can simply be countered by saying out creators told the creators of these man made things. But, if that was the case then they would have to be programming us which would be more or less a contradiction of the A.I. if you think about it. Like we have free will, unless we are programmed to do it? I do not think so. It would be very hard to even conceive free will with a purpose.

Le's say it's unrealizable for anyone to believe me.
People who archived something on this planet, scientists, teachers, politicians, celebrities and many more are actually controlled even more than regular people. The knowledge comes from God to this people and we have to learn from them. You know what I'm trying to say. God gives artificial intelligence to chosen ones and this ones gives knowledge to us. Normal man has to study while famous have already a knowledge about a certain thing in his head already.

Well, this brings up the second part of my opinion on the matter. If this was so then we would not trully have free will. It wouldn't be possible. If we had free will we would be able to chose to do what we want and could not be programmed to do such things. But I guess you could simply say "our creaters are able to do this". But that doesn't seem reasonable really. I have to admit you have a great theory here. But it has very little basis. But makes more sense then any other given religion put in its position. Besides the fact it has a major contradiction in it.

Just take example of my statement. If you look at people who come up with great ideas have no explanation where the thoughts come from.
God made a human by his own image.

Perfection could not happen by the way. Look at Saturn's ring.
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/index.html

Are you saying that a artist has no free will? He did not chose who he wanted painted? The people like Mona Lisa were programmed to get painted? Like I said wouldn't this be a major contradiction of free will?

Qorl

02-12-06, 12:52 PM

Ricky Houy
We are more than less programmed. Free will is more than less in violence or should I said emotions. Yes artists paint what they won't, because felling was given to them from God. In some way we have no free will but on the other hand we have a lot.

phlogistician

02-13-06, 04:59 AM

Light your are a stocker, just like pho pho, what worse neathier of you can ever back up any thing you say with any real facts.

Dwayne, you're back, and as semi-literate as ever! OK, Dwayned, what assertion would you like me to back up? Pick one, and we'll start there.

If people want to see a real ufo then they can vist seattle, wa. where thay have one that every one can see, it cost 11 dollars for adults, 7 dollars for children and infants are free.

Really? A real UFO? WOW! I'm surpised I've never heard of it, or that this hasn't been brought up as solid evidence of alien visitation before! AMAZING! Do you get to see anything else for the admission fee? A wolfboy, mermaid, or geekshow?