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TruthSeeker 03-15-04, 01:06 PM Ahhhh! Now there are too many interesting girls flirting with me! I don't know which one to choose!!!! :D
They all look so interesting and unique! I don't want to choose one and finish closing the door to all the others! :(
Can you guys give me any idea? Maybe I should just choose one that I have a nice relationship with and go out with her? And than after a while stop and go to the next? Maybe I should be honest and opened to them, telling them that I don't really know who would be better to me? I don't want to hurt any of them, so I really don't know what I should be doing... Any ideas? :/
I like this situation better than the other one... :D
Lemming3k 03-15-04, 01:48 PM lol, i'd hate that situation, though it depends how much you like each one, going with one and than stopping to go with another is a big no no, girls really hate that, and i dont think its a particularly nice thing to do, as lame as it sounds the best thing is to write all the qualities of your perfect girl on a piece of paper, and choose the one that fits best, you'll see some qualities arnt as important to you as others and which one has most of the important ones, try it and find out. :)
Ahhhh! Now there are too many interesting girls flirting with me! I don't know which one to choose!!!!
Oh such is life, always choices, always choices. You kids are never satisfied...I should know, I am one.
Okay, when you say 'they all look interesting and unique' are you just going at face value or does the word 'look' cover a broader range of things i.e. personality...oh you know what I mean, the thing inside a womans brain...I know us men haven't heard of it in a while but it exists, I assure you.
Imho, do a Friends. Write down the good points and the bad points of each, circle the things you really like and really hate and go from there.
cosmictraveler 03-15-04, 03:42 PM Which one has more in common with you? That is which one likes the same things you do? One will stand out above the rest and that one you will get along with better than the rest, although I wouldn't discard any of them because you never know what will happen with whom you like the best, she may not turn out to be the right choice...time will tell. Good luck, but treat them all with kindness and respect.
TruthSeeker 03-15-04, 03:45 PM Ahhhh! Now there are too many interesting girls flirting with me! I don't know which one to choose!!!!
Oh such is life, always choices, always choices. You kids are never satisfied...I should know, I am one.
Okay, when you say 'they all look interesting and unique' are you just going at face value or does the word 'look' cover a broader range of things i.e. personality...oh you know what I mean, the thing inside a womans brain...I know us men haven't heard of it in a while but it exists, I assure you.
Imho, do a Friends. Write down the good points and the bad points of each, circle the things you really like and really hate and go from there.
There's actually a girl in my French class that seems quite interested in me and I never found her much atractive. I mean... she looks nice, but she is a little bit taller than me and I don't like her looks so much. But she is a very nice girl, and every class I discover something new that we have in common. Today we were discussing what we did in the weekend. I said that I took lots of pictures. Then, she started talking with me and she said that she even has her own darkroom for b&w pictures!!!! Oh my...!! That's sweeeeeeeet :p
Anyways... I don't really know what to do... She is very nice in many ways... I'm just not very personally attracted to the way she looks like, that's all.I could describe every single one of them and every single problem.... but that would take a while.... :D
Princess 03-15-04, 03:55 PM Truth, you are overthinking this. Go out with them all until you decide which one you want to commit to. This is what's known as "dating" and it's okay as long as you are honest with the women about your intentions. (I am assuming from previous posts that you won't be screwing them all. If you were, my advice would be different.)
Also you might try a more zen like approach. A dear friend had the best response from the ladies when he didn't really give a damn - no nervousness, no anxiety, just enjoying the ride no matter where it went.
I agree with cosmic - best not to dismiss anyone as you never can tell what may change your mind down the road.
TruthSeeker 03-15-04, 03:55 PM lol, i'd hate that situation, though it depends how much you like each one, going with one and than stopping to go with another is a big no no, girls really hate that, and i dont think its a particularly nice thing to do, as lame as it sounds the best thing is to write all the qualities of your perfect girl on a piece of paper, and choose the one that fits best, you'll see some qualities arnt as important to you as others and which one has most of the important ones, try it and find out.
Harrrrrrd...!!! :eek: :o
Oh well... that's too bad... I hope I don't go nuts... :D
TruthSeeker 03-15-04, 04:00 PM Truth, you are overthinking this. Go out with them all until you decide which one you want to commit to. This is what's known as "dating" and it's okay as long as you are honest with the women about your intentions. (I am assuming from previous posts that you won't be screwing them all. If you were, my advice would be different.)
Good assumption. Usually, assuming is not very good tough... :D
I hope I don't hurt them tough. I guess I need to be really honest with them and tell them my situation. How much time do you think I would need with each one to know them better? Maybe it is relative to the person I'm going out with...? I guess... :/
Also you might try a more zen like approach. A dear friend had the best response from the ladies when he didn't really give a damn - no nervousness, no anxiety, just enjoying the ride no matter where it went.
Nahhh... I won't be anxious. I have many possibilities. I will just try to enjoy myself and give them the nicest and most true experience I can...
I agree with cosmic - best not to dismiss anyone as you never can tell what may change your mind down the road.
I agree. I guess I should try it and see how it goes. What about going out with more then one at the same time? Would that be bad? I don't know about here, cause in Brasil we have a different dating system that allows less compromise and more then one at a time. I should write about it here, someday... ;)
TruthSeeker 03-15-04, 04:05 PM Which one has more in common with you? That is which one likes the same things you do? One will stand out above the rest and that one you will get along with better than the rest, although I wouldn't discard any of them because you never know what will happen with whom you like the best, she may not turn out to be the right choice...time will tell.
Yeah... I hope I don't get too worried about choosing the wrong one...:/
Good luck, but treat them all with kindness and respect.
Kindness is my last name, baby! :D
Not respect tough... :D
Nahhh. I'm just joking. ;)
I'm pretty kind with people...
Lemming3k 03-15-04, 04:06 PM lol, it will only drive you nuts if you realise somewhere along the line you chose the wrong one and its too late to change it, of course if your not too serious about any of them then it really wont matter, i'll assume since your still in school your not too serious about finding the right person or anything, so you shouldnt worry about it, just enjoy yourself. :)
TruthSeeker 03-15-04, 04:22 PM lol, it will only drive you nuts if you realise somewhere along the line you chose the wrong one and its too late to change it, of course if your not too serious about any of them then it really wont matter, i'll assume since your still in school your not too serious about finding the right person or anything, so you shouldnt worry about it, just enjoy yourself.
Yuhoooo!!! Let's get l***! :D
I'm just kidding... ;)
I like it better not making it serious. It feels better. It's funny, because I've always thought that going out with many girls would be wrong and something a sexist pig would do. Now I see some value on the dating process....
But you must recognize the fact that most teenagers date in a very unresponsible way. I think that's why I've always seen it as something bad and to be avoided, and that lead me to believe that a serious relationship would be more plausible. However, I didn't take into consideration the stress that choosing the right girl right of the bad would give me. So I finished being too hard on myself and on others girls because I was taking the whole process too seriously.
Wow! I'm a good psychologist....!!! :D
ScRaMbLe 03-15-04, 08:31 PM Dont go out with too many at once... Its too hard to keep track of what you've said to who and you might get names mixed up... tantamount to a relationship death roll :p Its ok to date more than one at a time, as long as you're honest and only until things start to get serious with one of em. Then that one will appreciate being chosen over the others... (The Bachelor syndrome) :p
dont go out with any, you sound very happy at the moment, i wouldnt wreck that, be friends with all of them, eventually, either the girls will become less friendly with you, or friendly enought to still be friends whilst you are going out with someone else.
ps, i need help with girls too, theres one girl i like who is really nice, but has gone straight from one bf to another with basically no break, and now likes me despite going with someone else. how do i stop her current bf getting hurt, and teach her that you cant just go through guys and just switch when you get bored?
Lemming3k 03-16-04, 07:19 AM Alain unfortunately, you cant teach her that, maybe one of her ex's will if they feel used, its pretty much what girls do these days, your probably just next in a long line for her, and if the current bf really likes her, he's gonna get hurt, its part of life, if you like her go with her but dont be surprised when your the current bf and she likes someone else, though you never know she might realise the error of her ways and stay with you, only one way to find out....
But you must recognize the fact that most teenagers date in a very unresponsible way
Very true truthseeker, it depends where you live really, in some places things are accepted as ok which arnt accepted worldwide, and it depends how the teenagers have grown up, i'd respect the woman i date by not dating someone else at the same time, but thats just me, most people consider it ok to date more than one person, even if its in a way so they never find out about each other.
Just as a final note, you dont have to look for love or choose it, most of the time it will find and choose you, dont take it too seriously just whenever you meet someone who's quite nice get to know them better and see how it goes, in my experience loves a hard thing to find, but its getting there thats the most fun.
StepOnMe 03-16-04, 10:51 AM Truth seeker: if you really desire the truth [from a woman] just because girls flirt doesn't necessarily mean that they like you, or are attracted to you in any way.
First I would find out if these girls would like to engage in a romance with you. Girls are NOT a pair of shoes. You don't try them out and choose which ones you like. Also, what is your definition of a "nice" relationship? How on earth could it be a nice relationship if you have other females waiting in line. Why would you stop with her and go out with the next person when you don't even know if this relationship could blossom.
Being honest is good but you should GET to KNOW both people. I don't think it's a question of who will treat you better but rather one of who you can treat well and vice versa and who you like more. If you really need to choose then I wouldn't choose either, i mean, if I were one of the girls and knew you were the type of person who judged on if I would treat you well as opposed to if I was a good person I don't think I would be remotely interested in you.
SUGGESTION: Get to know both girls for who they are as human beings. They are not your slaves, they are women. They deserve your respect as much as you do theirs. Think logically, be sensible!
- S t e p h -
TruthSeeker 03-16-04, 01:01 PM dont go out with any, you sound very happy at the moment, i wouldnt wreck that, be friends with all of them, eventually, either the girls will become less friendly with you, or friendly enought to still be friends whilst you are going out with someone else.
Well... I have to get to know them better, otherwise I won't be able to really choose one of them... :/
ps, i need help with girls too, theres one girl i like who is really nice, but has gone straight from one bf to another with basically no break, and now likes me despite going with someone else. how do i stop her current bf getting hurt, and teach her that you cant just go through guys and just switch when you get bored?
Are you sure you want this girl? Seriously, I've met this kind of girl before. It was awful. It might turn out that she will use you and then throw you away when she get bored. Or maybe she will just use you to try to get over her ex-boyfriend. Girls that do that are usually trying to get over one guy by going out with other. And they keep changing boyfriends all the time. Just awful...
TruthSeeker 03-16-04, 01:02 PM Dont go out with too many at once... Its too hard to keep track of what you've said to who and you might get names mixed up... tantamount to a relationship death roll :p Its ok to date more than one at a time, as long as you're honest and only until things start to get serious with one of em. Then that one will appreciate being chosen over the others... (The Bachelor syndrome) :p
Yeah... I'm certainly honest about it... :)
TruthSeeker 03-16-04, 01:05 PM Alain unfortunately, you cant teach her that, maybe one of her ex's will if they feel used, its pretty much what girls do these days, your probably just next in a long line for her, and if the current bf really likes her, he's gonna get hurt, its part of life, if you like her go with her but dont be surprised when your the current bf and she likes someone else, though you never know she might realise the error of her ways and stay with you, only one way to find out....
The one that went out with me didn't realise the error of her ways... :rolleyes:
In fact, she still doesn't get. Maybe she is just plain dumb? I don't know. I'm just glad she is far away...
Just as a final note, you dont have to look for love or choose it, most of the time it will find and choose you, dont take it too seriously just whenever you meet someone who's quite nice get to know them better and see how it goes, in my experience loves a hard thing to find, but its getting there thats the most fun.
I'm not looking for love right now. I just wanna have fun and get to know them. :)
I'm sure getting there is the most fun... :D
TruthSeeker 03-16-04, 01:34 PM Truth seeker: if you really desire the truth [from a woman] just because girls flirt doesn't necessarily mean that they like you, or are attracted to you in any way.
This is one of the problems with some women - they are not consistent. If girls want something, they should be clear about it. Don't just play like that, it is VERY confusing. The same thing that I've heard is about sex. Some girls play saying "no and no", but they are actually saying "yes". Result: some guys think they are playing and do it anyways. Others pretend that they think they are playing, while the girl is sayiogn a real "no". Other guys think that they are saying "no" and they aren't, so they don't do anything.
This pretending game that some girls create is just plain confusing, and it is bound to create even serious problems. :/
First I would find out if these girls would like to engage in a romance with you. Girls are NOT a pair of shoes. You don't try them out and choose which ones you like.
I don't see it that way. In fact, for many years I didn't get out with any girl because I was thinking exactly the same way you do. I don't like going out with one girl, breaking and then going out with other. I always found that to be horrible and disgusting, like uising them. So I always wanted to gwt the right girl right of the bat. The result, is that I got stressed out and I was putting too much pressure on girls. I went nowhere with this tatic.
There is no choice. I have to be true to them and tell them how I feel about it. I have to get to know them in the most intimate possible way without getting into a serious relationship. Then, I will be able to tell who would be more compatible with me, who I would feel more comfortable with.
The key here is emotional attachment. Whenever I ask a girl out, I will tell her NOT to get emotional attached because we don't know if it will work out or not. When we get more intimate, we will see how comfortable we feel with each other. If our level of comfort is high, we will have fun. If it is low, we won't. It is very simple.
Also, getting to know them through friendship has proven to be not enough. You can be very friends with someone else, but that doesn't mean that you will feel comfortable in higher levels of intimacy.
Also, what is your definition of a "nice" relationship?
A nice relationship is a relationship where there is no emotional attachment, both people feel comfortable being intimate and there is emotional involvement. It is important to have emotionale involvement without emotional attachment, because the emotional attachment is just like a drug while the emotional involvement is what makes the relationship alive (both people are growing), interesting and meaningful. It grows and both people involved don't need each other, but are together just to have fun.
How on earth could it be a nice relationship if you have other females waiting in line. Why would you stop with her and go out with the next person when you don't even know if this relationship could blossom.
The key is: be with the other person and see if the relationship blossom. This is the whole point going out. Going out is not like marriage. I know what you mean by "waiting line" and that is why I haven't had a girlfriend yet (besides the one that used me). I don't like hurting people, you know? And I would feel awful if I would finish hurting somebody.
But this is my situation. Many girls are interestying. They are all unique. I don't know who would be better for me. So I have to get to know them better. If the relationship blossoms, I will have a choice between making it more serious, or seeing if there is someone even better. The key to not getting hurt is being honet and letting the other person know your expectations and get to know their expectations. Honesty is the best shield against getting hurt.
Being honest is good but you should GET to KNOW both people.
Precisely! I have to get to know them! But friendship is not enough. I've tried friendship, and it is simply not enough to tell wheter a more intimate relationship would work or not. It seems ehere is no other way out besides going out with one and then with other, or both at the same time. As long as they know what is going on, it is ok. But if you know a better way to do that, please tell me! The last thing I want is to get someone hurt or me getting hurt.
I don't think it's a question of who will treat you better but rather one of who you can treat well and vice versa and who you like more.
Certainly. Relationship is all about sharing. It is not what you get, but what can you give. This is what makes a relationship grow. And this is also what makes a relationship pleasent. If you have kids, you certainly know that it feels much better to give presents then to receive them... ;)
If you really need to choose then I wouldn't choose either, i mean, if I were one of the girls and knew you were the type of person who judged on if I would treat you well as opposed to if I was a good person I don't think I would be remotely interested in you.
Are you assuming that I choose someone by the way they treat me? Well... I would definetely not choose someone that hates me, but don't get that far! I'm interested in sharing, not just receiving. It is this kind of assumption that closed the door so many times for me.
SUGGESTION: Get to know both girls for who they are as human beings.
That is obvious and essential.
They are not your slaves, they are women.
I'm the last man on earth that would say that girls are my slave. In a nutshel, I would die to save a girlfriend, if that would be the only way to save her.
They deserve your respect as much as you do theirs.
One of the problems I used to have is that I would respect them more then I would respect myself. That used to put all the power in their hands and actually make them umcomfortable.
Think logically, be sensible!
Even my ex-"girlfriend" that used me and threw me away in three days because I didn't make her forget her ex-boyfriend as I was "supposed to do" said that I'm an extremely sensible man...
- S t e p h -
Nice to meet you Steph :)
TruthSeeker 03-16-04, 01:37 PM Emotional attachement is something to be avoided by all means.
Emotional involvement is something to be pursued by all means.
StepOnMe 03-16-04, 11:52 PM If girls want something, they should be clear about it. Don't just play like that, it is VERY confusing.
I think the same should apply for the males. A girl should be straight up with her boyfriend. She is asking for trouble if she lies about what she wants and in my opinion gets what she deserves. Plus, a woman who lies is just a hooch anyway.... Getting back to REAL women.... :rolleyes:
I don't like going out with one girl, breaking and then going out with other. I always found that to be horrible and disgusting, like uising them. So I always wanted to gwt the right girl right of the bat. The result, is that I got stressed out and I was putting too much pressure on girls. I went nowhere with this tatic.
Okay, first off... chances are you aren't going to marry the first woman you date. Dating is all about experiencing difference relationships with different people - not at the same time. When dating, as a way of respecting the woman you must be devout to her and not be a scheming little asshole that wants to engage in numerous meaningless relationships. Aww... stressed out? Maybe you need to grow up first (i'm not saying that to be rude, I just mean that dating shouldn't be stress it should be a good thing). Getting a perfect person right off the bat is highly unlikely, chances are you will stress more trying to find that then just taking it easy with one girl at a time.
When we get more intimate, we will see how comfortable we feel with each other. If our level of comfort is high, we will have fun. If it is low, we won't. It is very simple.
People who engage in intimate relations before becoming emotionally involved are those who don't end up with much in the end. What is the point of being intimate with a person if you know nothing about them and they know relatively nothing about you? This is the whole sex appeal issue which I can't stand and would rather not venture off into.
Also, getting to know them through friendship has proven to be not enough.
By whom? Yourself? Alot of relationships begin as friendships and are often as strong, if not stronger, than any relationship where you begin being intimate before knowing the person emotionally.
A nice relationship is a relationship where there is no emotional attachment, both people feel comfortable being intimate and there is emotional involvement.
I disagree, I think emotional attachment is necessary. I don't think I could be intimate with someone if I wasn't somehow emotionally connected with them.
emotional attachment is just like a drug while the emotional involvement is what makes the relationship alive (both people are growing), interesting and meaningful. It grows and both people involved don't need each other, but are together just to have fun.
I'd like to agree with you but I just can't seem to. I think emotional involvement is the drug because it is a form of temptation wheras emotional attachment is necessary and expands the minds of the two that are dating. It enables both people to grow to know eachother. Having fun with any random person is fun but having fun with someone who you are emotionally attached to is even better!
I don't like hurting people, you know? And I would feel awful if I would finish hurting somebody.
If you are dating two people at a time someone will eventually get hurt. Actually, a lot of the things you want to do will probably end with someone getting hurt because most are immoral acts.
The key to not getting hurt is being honet and letting the other person know your expectations and get to know their expectations. Honesty is the best shield against getting hurt.
Expectations? I thought this was about love... Honest, are you going to tell them about how you have no intentions on engaging in emotional involvement? If you tell the person you only want to get them in bed and "have fun" you'd be kicked onto the doorstep and told to call some sex hotline or go to a stripclub. But if you don't tell them this then... :O that would be ... lying?
I've tried friendship, and it is simply not enough to tell wheter a more intimate relationship would work or not. It seems ehere is no other way out besides going out with one and then with other, or both at the same time. The last thing I want is to get someone hurt or me getting hurt.
Relationships are more than just intimacy. I guess intimacy is all your really looking for here isn't it? Again, both girls at the same time would hurt one, if not both. Being cheated on is one of the worst feelings in the world. Once you get cheated on you will never cheat. Don't do it, it's not rewarding at all.
Certainly. Relationship is all about sharing.
Share the fact that you just want to fuck and you'll be out on the front lawn.
It is this kind of assumption that closed the door so many times for me.
Sorry for assuming but I just met you and have no other choice.
I would die to save a girlfriend, if that would be the only way to save her.
You'll realize soon enough that you won't die for any old girlfriend. Just because you are dating someone doesn't mean that they deserve your life - dating is experimental. Don't give yourself to just anyone.
That used to put all the power in their hands and actually make them umcomfortable.
Power? My hands. Mwahahaha, I'd love that! :p
Even my ex-"girlfriend" that used me and threw me away in three days because I didn't make her forget her ex-boyfriend as I was "supposed to do" said that I'm an extremely sensible man...
Yesss, and my boss says I'm sensible - he means nothing to me. How can you take the words of someone who used you into consideration number one and number two.... you dated her for 3 days and she used you. Is there any relevance to this comment?... *shrugs*
Nice to meet you Steph :)
Nice to meet you as well.
ScRaMbLe 03-17-04, 02:44 AM Sounds to me like you've grown a fair amount already TS :)
Just one thing tho, don't be quite so precious about it all. Its good that you are worried about not hurting others, but, chances are, their world won't come crashing down if you decide you're not so keen after a date or two. A date is just that, a date, it doesn't really even constitute enough to really even fall into the catagory of a "relationship". The fact is, at some point you will get hurt again and so will they, so be concerned, but don't stress out over it! Hurt makes you stronger and better equipt to deal with it next time. Imagine how much more damage it would do to a person who was shielded from hurt their whole lives, only ever had one relationship and THEN that person broke up with them... It would be like a whole world of hurt in one big hit and would probably fuck em up big time.
But, anyways, I've talked enough shit, you seem to have ya head screwed on, you'll be ok ;)
"Are you sure you want this girl? Seriously, I've met this kind of girl before. It was awful. It might turn out that she will use you and then throw you away when she get bored. Or maybe she will just use you to try to get over her ex-boyfriend. Girls that do that are usually trying to get over one guy by going out with other. And they keep changing boyfriends all the time. Just awful..."
yes, i am sure that i want to go out with her, she is a really nice person, just a bit slutty. Can anyone give advice that will make her not do that?
StepOnMe 03-17-04, 08:34 AM she is a really nice person, just a bit slutty. Can anyone give advice that will make her not do that?
You can't change a person to make them not do what you don't want them to do. If you don't like what they do then you won't be able to handle them... You can probably have fun trying though.
- S t e p h -
TruthSeeker 03-17-04, 03:59 PM I think the same should apply for the males. A girl should be straight up with her boyfriend. She is asking for trouble if she lies about what she wants and in my opinion gets what she deserves. Plus, a woman who lies is just a hooch anyway.... Getting back to REAL women....
Yeah, I agree with you.
Okay, first off... chances are you aren't going to marry the first woman you date.
That's what I'm saying. I will eventualyl go out with many. Is there a problem with that?
Dating is all about experiencing difference relationships with different people - not at the same time.
In my culture, "at the same time" is sometimes accepted. But yes, I agree with you.
When dating, as a way of respecting the woman you must be devout to her and not be a scheming little asshole that wants to engage in numerous meaningless relationships.
Just because they are numerous, that doesn't mean that they are meaningless. But again, whatever you do you need to be honest and say everything. If a girl that I go out with expect that I won't go out with anyone else at the same time I will respect that and I won't go out with any other. But it is important for her to state her expectations and for me to ask what are her expectations, in case she doesn't say them.
Aww... stressed out? Maybe you need to grow up first (i'm not saying that to be rude, I just mean that dating shouldn't be stress it should be a good thing).
I was stressed out because I was taking it too seriously. That has always been my problem since when I was around 12 years old (too seriously)... :rolleyes: But again, people pressed me to be more serious, because before that I didn't take life seriously at all!
Getting a perfect person right off the bat is highly unlikely, chances are you will stress more trying to find that then just taking it easy with one girl at a time.
I've learnt that.
When we get more intimate, we will see how comfortable we feel with each other. If our level of comfort is high, we will have fun. If it is low, we won't. It is very simple.
People who engage in intimate relations before becoming emotionally involved are those who don't end up with much in the end. What is the point of being intimate with a person if you know nothing about them and they know relatively nothing about you? This is the whole sex appeal issue which I can't stand and would rather not venture off into.
Yes, it is better to be friends first. But there are limitations on friendship. People can still go out just for sex. It's just not going to be very meaningful and rewarding, that's all.
By whom? Yourself? Alot of relationships begin as friendships and are often as strong, if not stronger, than any relationship where you begin being intimate before knowing the person emotionally.
You only really know somebody and you become intimate with that person. They can become as friendships, but that doesn't mean that they will work. A good friend doesn't necessarily mean a good lover.
I disagree, I think emotional attachment is necessary. I don't think I could be intimate with someone if I wasn't somehow emotionally connected with them.
Don't mistake emotional connection (or "involvement") to attachment. Attachment is a need. It is like using somebody to satisfy yourself.
I'd like to agree with you but I just can't seem to. I think emotional involvement is the drug because it is a form of temptation wheras emotional attachment is necessary and expands the minds of the two that are dating. It enables both people to grow to know eachother. Having fun with any random person is fun but having fun with someone who you are emotionally attached to is even better!
You are mixing the terms. "Attachment" imples something that you hold onto and don't want to give up, while "involvement" is free and flowing.
Just semantics... :p
If you are dating two people at a time someone will eventually get hurt.
Not if everyone is in agreement and there is no emotional attachment.
Actually, a lot of the things you want to do will probably end with someone getting hurt because most are immoral acts.
What do you call "immoral"?
Expectations? I thought this was about love... Honest, are you going to tell them about how you have no intentions on engaging in emotional involvement? If you tell the person you only want to get them in bed and "have fun" you'd be kicked onto the doorstep and told to call some sex hotline or go to a stripclub. But if you don't tell them this then... :O that would be ... lying?
Why are you saying this? Do you know what is meant by "expectations"? Like... for example... if you don't feel comfortable with something, you can tell to your partner not to do something because you feel umcomfortable, or because of something related to your belief system. That way, your partner can know where you stand. Telling your partner your expectations is just a matter of communicating what you desire and how you see your relationship.
Btw... I don't want a relationship just for sex... There is more in a relationship then just that...
Relationships are more than just intimacy. I guess intimacy is all your really looking for here isn't it?
Intimacy is not just about sex. Again, intimacy is way broader then that. But yes, I'm looking for intimacy, absolutely. Telling your "secrets" is a way of intimacy, for example. Intimacy is all about being yourself and being comfortable showing yourself (I'm not talking about just getting phisically naked, I'm talking about getting emotionally, spiritually and "intelligently" naked too).
Again, both girls at the same time would hurt one, if not both. Being cheated on is one of the worst feelings in the world. Once you get cheated on you will never cheat. Don't do it, it's not rewarding at all.
I've never thoguht about cheating. If I want to go out with two girls at the same time, I will tell that before I even go out with them. It is just a matter of being opened. Cheating is going out with more than one without telling them. That is bad.
I'm probably not going to go out with more then one, since that is not the culture in Canada. But again, just as you say, dating is experimental and I don't see so much trouble with that.
Share the fact that you just want to fuck and you'll be out on the front lawn.
Who said I just want sex? Why you keep assuming that?
Sorry for assuming but I just met you and have no other choice.
Ok... So please don't say anymore that I just want sex.
You'll realize soon enough that you won't die for any old girlfriend. Just because you are dating someone doesn't mean that they deserve your life - dating is experimental. Don't give yourself to just anyone.
If someone is in danger (whoever), I definetely try to save that person. I try to keep my life, but if I would need to give it away to save that person's life I would. A good example of the kind of person like me are firemen. Like the ones of 9/11...
Power? My hands. Mwahahaha, I'd love that!
Others feel umcomfortable. in fact, my counsellor said that everyone feels umcomfortable with that...
Yesss, and my boss says I'm sensible - he means nothing to me. How can you take the words of someone who used you into consideration number one and number two.... you dated her for 3 days and she used you. Is there any relevance to this comment?... *shrugs*
She is extremely insensible and she said I'm sensible, so I should be reeeeeaaalllly sensible... :D
TruthSeeker 03-17-04, 04:02 PM yes, i am sure that i want to go out with her, she is a really nice person, just a bit slutty. Can anyone give advice that will make her not do that?
A nice slutty person? That's an interesting combination. You are really attached to her, aren't you? Maybe.
Learn this before you get hurt: you cannot change people. You are talking with someone that tried for 2 years to enlighten a girl, and in the end she didn't learn it... :rolleyes:
Besides, if you don't like how she is and want to change her, that is already a sign that she is not for you.
TruthSeeker 03-17-04, 04:08 PM Sounds to me like you've grown a fair amount already TS :)
I didn't. A lot of what I'm saying I've always thought like that. I'm just better equiped semantically.
There's almost nothing I've learnt. I just understand myslef in a better way, that's all.
Just one thing tho, don't be quite so precious about it all. Its good that you are worried about not hurting others, but, chances are, their world won't come crashing down if you decide you're not so keen after a date or two. A date is just that, a date, it doesn't really even constitute enough to really even fall into the catagory of a "relationship". The fact is, at some point you will get hurt again and so will they, so be concerned, but don't stress out over it!
If there is no emotional attachment, there is no hurt. The key is: so ne it. There are lots of girls in the world. It is likely that there are many girls that would be nice girlfriends and wives fior me. So why worry? Of course, everyone is unique, but it is important to know to accept that.
Hurt makes you stronger and better equipt to deal with it next time.
I definetely know that... :eek:
Imagine how much more damage it would do to a person who was shielded from hurt their whole lives, only ever had one relationship and THEN that person broke up with them... It would be like a whole world of hurt in one big hit and would probably fuck em up big time.
I know what you mean. I've already experienced that.
But, anyways, I've talked enough shit, you seem to have ya head screwed on, you'll be ok
What do you mean...? :D
everyone here seems to say you can't change a person, ill believe you, but ill still try
she is slutty and nice, its quite easy to be that, slutty is basically just being very nice to numerous people :P
and who here can tell me that anyone that they have gone out with is perfect?
mithrandhir 03-20-04, 02:29 AM i read somewhere 'women are born a thousand years old'.they can act very bitchy at times reminding you of things of bygone era.
TruthSeeker 03-20-04, 01:55 PM i read somewhere 'women are born a thousand years old'.they can act very bitchy at times reminding you of things of bygone era.
Naaaahhh...
They only become bitchy on those days... :rolleyes: :D
TruthSeeker 03-22-04, 11:48 AM everyone here seems to say you can't change a person, ill believe you, but ill still try
she is slutty and nice, its quite easy to be that, slutty is basically just being very nice to numerous people :P
and who here can tell me that anyone that they have gone out with is perfect?
Good luck. Don't feel bad if you don't succeed...
"They only become bitchy on those days..." what, the ones that end with a y ???
"Good luck. Don't feel bad if you don't succeed..." thanks, ill try not to overreact or anything if i dont
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