When did Republicans forget what it meant to be a conservative, how free-market capitalism worked? Were they bought out, or did they just go morally bankrupt?

Because in the past 6 years, I've seen very little pro-market legislation, but a lot of pro-business legislation.

Do the Republicans not know the difference, or are all expense paid trips and hefty financial contributions what really matters to them?

you cant claim to be pro market... and not be pro business...

that would NOT make any sense.

the way i see it.. the reps and the dems.. have different policies..

the dems.. tax and spend... throwing bones to the masses of poor.
the rep.. tax less and spend. throwing bones to the busineses that hire the masses of poor.

not to much of a choice.

-MT

Answer me you necon slobs.

What do you find that is "pro-business" instead of "pro-market"?

MT, pro market and pro business are not the same thing. pro-market is actually anti-business, for it seeks to level the market into an even playing field, which breaks down large corporations, whereas pro-business supports large corporations.

Remember, a true market has no businesses, it would theoretically be all individual buyers and sellers meeting in voluntary exchange, and there would be technically be an infinite number of buyers and sellers so that the bargaining power of any one individual is zero. Thus, nobody has price control, it is set at the actual value of the product in teh eyes of the consumer. as businesses are formed, they gain power and teh syatem becomes less like a pure market, and if the corporations continue to grow the other extreme is just one company, or a pure monopoly.

So pro-market actually has teh opposite goal of pro-business

Myself, i favor closer to the market, though there is value in corporations

What do you find that is "pro-business" instead of "pro-market"?

Bush's backpeddle on free trade, his continued protection of US steel, the passage of numerous environmental regulations that large corporations support because it reduces competition.

Also, his demand-side economics is quite disserting to a fiscal conservative like myself. It's like his cabinet got Keyensian economic policy confused with Reaganomics. Oh wait, that's exactly what they did.

I AM MORE CON THAN CONS!

Bow before your CON, cons!

Okay. Fine. I bow before thee oh con of cons.

:worship:

Mr. G? Nothing to contribute? All talk and no substance?
Thought so.

the rep.. tax less and spend. throwing bones to the busineses that hire the masses of poor.
-MT
Um. Tax and spend on the rebuiling of Iraq: ie. money channelled from tax payers to friends of the admin in Haliburton, etc.
Tax and spend on weapon and war. Money that does not reach the poor.

And why are there poor by the way?
There used to be fewer? Who set that in motion? Who made liberal such a dirty word that Dems felt they had to go along?

Roman:

Why should we not protect our industries? Does it not matter that a nation be sustainable on its own?

When did Republicans forget what it meant to be a conservative, how free-market capitalism worked? Were they bought out, or did they just go morally bankrupt?

Because in the past 6 years, I've seen very little pro-market legislation, but a lot of pro-business legislation.

Do the Republicans not know the difference, or are all expense paid trips and hefty financial contributions what really matters to them?Excellent post.

Few people mix up pro-business and pro-market positions, when there is a vital difference.

Roman:

Why should we not protect our industries? Does it not matter that a nation be sustainable on its own?

Why should I have to pay for your deficiency?
Why should I be forced by my government to buy inefficiently produced goods of inferior quality?
Why should I support mediocrity?

Why should I have to pay for your deficiency?
Why should I be forced by my government to buy inefficiently produced goods of inferior quality?
Why should I support mediocrity?

Because corporate welfare is the American (read:fascist) way.
Just as Reagan.