It seems to me that we have about 4 years before we start school a year in between school and uni, you then after uni spends all your life till your about 60 working with about 6 weeks free a year then u settle down until you die at about 80

so, we are always told we work to prepare for life, yet we only spend about 26 years of our lives living and the rest "preparing". and about 20 of those years we cant do "much" with our lives

Any thoughts?

I hate fucking life!!!

Nah not really but you do have a point. Life is all about preparation and in the end who knows what the prize actually is.

It seems to me that we have about 4 years before we start school a year in between school and uni, you then after uni spends all your life till your about 60 working with about 6 weeks free a year then u settle down until you die at about 80

so, we are always told we work to prepare for life, yet we only spend about 26 years of our lives living and the rest "preparing". and about 20 of those years we cant do "much" with our lives

Any thoughts?
The thiing that is missing from this is that the time you spend in so called preparation is also living. If you think of life as being a constant state of learning then you find that learning is a big part of life. So the time you spend preparing is in fact living as well. Once you split it up your contention becomes valid but once you merge learning with living your contention becomes less valid.
For example the best years of my life have been when studying at school or as a mature age student later.
It is also I feel one of the keys to leading a long and fruitful life, diminishing the possibility of dementia or other age related mental conditions.

So if you make learning your "career" you life will be full and eventful with out the depressing state you suggest.

It's really, really difficult to fully explain to young people the value of "preparing" for old age and retirement. After I retire in Jan 2000, it took me only a few days to realize that I should have retired right after high school!!!!

Y'all just can't know how free, how wonderful it is to be so "almost" absolutely free to do what you want to do, when you want to do it.

If y'all could know, then you'd work your little asses off, save your money like a miser, then retire at 35! But, no, you just can't tell young people shit! :)

Baron Max

Like I've always said, people value the future (preparing for college, abortions, embryonic stem cell research, blah blah) and the past (tradition, memories, etc) way more than the present.

You only speak of the time we spend working. What about the moments in between?

What about all one's free time during such things?

It seems to me that we have about 4 years before we start school a year in between school and uni, you then after uni spends all your life till your about 60 working with about 6 weeks free a year then u settle down until you die at about 80

so, we are always told we work to prepare for life, yet we only spend about 26 years of our lives living and the rest "preparing". and about 20 of those years we cant do "much" with our lives

Any thoughts?

Yes, several. ;)

First, you need to realize that at age 12 there is quite a bit to life that you can't be expected to know yet. :) And I'm not trying to be condescending in the least, I'd just like to mention a few things. You'll pick up on them yourself as you go along.

Even during those years while you're in school you actually have plenty of free time to do with as you wish. What about pretty much every weekend. For most people that's about 16 years which gives you 1,664 days (which equates to a little over 4 1/2 years) that all belong to you! And that's not counting holidays which is another huge chunk. Plus if you sleep 8 hours a night, you hardly spend the other 16 hours a day on nothing but schoolwork. Usually far from it.

And those same numbers pretty much apply to every group of 16 years that you spend working. That's TONS of free time during your life.

And here comes one of the biggest things of all: a very large number of us actually enjoy the time we spend working!! How's that for an eye-opener? Sure, we complain about things at times, but so do people who are born rich and never have to work a single day.

Also, for those who truly don't like their jobs, they are the ones most responsible for their discomfort. They need to make a change - get into a different kind of work. Many of them do but others won't because it might take a little effort to train for a different job, they may feel that they can't do anything different (very seldom actually true, pretty much everyone can), or they might have to travel farther to get to work. There are all kinds of excuses and most of them are just that - excuses. If you really, really HATE your job, do something about it.

I worked for 26 years before retiring (early) and quickly discovered that I missed it. So I found something I liked and went back for several more years.

And I'm far from alone in that.

Bottom line? Everyone has much more free time than you might think.

The thiing that is missing from this is that the time you spend in so called preparation is also living. If you think of life as being a constant state of learning then you find that learning is a big part of life. So the time you spend preparing is in fact living as well. Once you split it up your contention becomes valid but once you merge learning with living your contention becomes less valid.
For example the best years of my life have been when studying at school or as a mature age student later.
It is also I feel one of the keys to leading a long and fruitful life, diminishing the possibility of dementia or other age related mental conditions.

So if you make learning your "career" you life will be full and eventful with out the depressing state you suggest.


he's just basically saying working your whole damn life then dying is BS,

and i kinda agree, unless you have a job you really love, then working your whole life is BS i would rather go be a hermit master in the wudang mountains than suffer that, if i cant spend time with my wife friends, train my mind and body, because im working i will not like that and think its a sad fate just for money, would rather live i the wild and hunt,


peace

..., because im working i will not like that and think its a sad fate just for money, would rather live i the wild and hunt

Well, why don't you just go do that, then? What are you waiting for? What's stopping you from doing just that?

Baron Max

he's just basically saying working your whole damn life then dying is BS,

and i kinda agree, unless you have a job you really love, then working your whole life is BS i would rather go be a hermit master in the wudang mountains than suffer that, if i cant spend time with my wife friends, train my mind and body, because im working i will not like that and think its a sad fate just for money, would rather live i the wild and hunt,


peace

I agree with Max. Unless there are things in your life that are worth it to you, then by all means - go and be a hermit. But I doubt you'd actually be willing to give up everything else if it came right down to it. However, if you ARE willing, then what's holding you back, eh?

But I doubt you'd actually be willing to give up everything else if it came right down to it.

I'm beginning to think that there's a human gene devoted to "Bitching and Moaning" about ones life ...and perhaps another one devoted to "Not doing a damned thing about it"! :)

Baron Max

It seems to me that we have about 4 years before we start school a year in between school and uni, you then after uni spends all your life till your about 60 working with about 6 weeks free a year then u settle down until you die at about 80

so, we are always told we work to prepare for life, yet we only spend about 26 years of our lives living and the rest "preparing". and about 20 of those years we cant do "much" with our lives

Any thoughts?
LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS etc of people are in a rut, hateteir jobs, lives. teachers at your school, many will feel same way. tisis a materialistic oppressive awful had brutal culture....if you 'breakdown' you'll be classed 'mentally ill' and havepressure to take their goddamn 'meds' to get ye on the fukin treadmil again

YOU lad, have to ask yourself...begin exploring whatyou want. Not whatyour parents want for you which may not be what you want, but what you really love to do...things you like to do, then have courage to do them. it takes guts and you might not be bling ukin bling, but you will be living!...tho unfortunately te oppressie culture can still be all round yer head!

I'm beginning to think that there's a human gene devoted to "Bitching and Moaning" about ones life ...and perhaps another one devoted to "Not doing a damned thing about it"! :)

Baron Max

My opinion? You're absolutely right!

I'm reminded of a story I heard long ago about a couple that lived in the backwoods.

She had a wood-burning cookstove and complained about the tase of the wood smoke in her food. So he bought a coal stove. Then she compained of the tase of coal smoke in the food.

Finally, electricity arrived on their road so he bought her an electric range. Sure enough, she complained about the taste of electricity in the food. ;)

well thanks for your thoughts guys you've given me alot to prepare for ;)

Work hard; sacrifice a few years and make enough money to invest for an early retirement. How? Focus; look for opportunities, find a niche and go for it, invest wisely and don't blow your high earnings on shallow enterprise; you could stop working in your 30's.