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View Full Version : Precognitive Dreams or Just Mere Coincidence?
jagäroberoende 03-16-06, 09:09 PM First off, I'm new and yeah, I'm ready for skepticism and criticism to the highest degree, but I just think it's an odd coincidence that this stuff has been happening to me since I was little.
I have dreams that come out as precognitions... One time I dreamed that my aunt was pregnant and she had a kid that looked identical to my uncle and well, it happened less than 3 days later... she called and said she was pregnant. I don't know if it's just coincidence or there really is something going on, but whatever it is... it freaks me out.
The last "nightmare" I had was that I had a car accident. What freaks me out is the fact that most of my dreams come true. In the car accident, the car flipped, and I was crushed on the passenger's side. Now, since a majority of them come true, let's say 95% of the time... then umm... is it a mere coincidence or is it really precognitive thought?
I don't really know, that's why I'm asking you parapsychology experts. I'm confused. :(
emusquire 03-16-06, 11:37 PM Actually there are 2 possible reasons. It's been determined scientifically that certain chemicals in the brain can trigger the feeling of deja vu. Having said this it's entirely possible the impression of precognition is only chemical-based. However...
I to have experienced a precognitive dream, the thing is I was never able to duplicate this nor have I had any real odd experiences like it since. I did learn a few things from it though.
1. Strong intent was a key factor for me
2. Strong fear or feelings of needing to know may also have played a role.
So in short I would tend to think it's all chemical trickery inside the brain, but perhaps these dreams are possible. I mean consiousness really has no mass, thus it wouldn't abide by scienfic boundries of physics. In theory if it was possible to direct the mind away from a given point, and if there is an individual Space-Time signiture for everything then you might have an ability to dream about the future, but only your future.
Imagine it this way, I am me no matter what time I occupy. There might be a link between all the occurances of me in each timeframe, and that link might allow my consiousness to travel along a path connecting me to the other me in the future. I seem to recall someone mentioning something along these lines, lay something or other... that movie Donnie Darko has a similar notion.
Actually there are 2 possible reasons. It's been determined scientifically that certain chemicals in the brain can trigger the feeling of deja vu. Having said this it's entirely possible the impression of precognition is only chemical-based. However...
I to have experienced a precognitive dream, the thing is I was never able to duplicate this nor have I had any real odd experiences like it since. I did learn a few things from it though.
1. Strong intent was a key factor for me
2. Strong fear or feelings of needing to know may also have played a role.
So in short I would tend to think it's all chemical trickery inside the brain, but perhaps these dreams are possible. I mean consiousness really has no mass, thus it wouldn't abide by scienfic boundries of physics. In theory if it was possible to direct the mind away from a given point, and if there is an individual Space-Time signiture for everything then you might have an ability to dream about the future, but only your future.
Imagine it this way, I am me no matter what time I occupy. There might be a link between all the occurances of me in each timeframe, and that link might allow my consiousness to travel along a path connecting me to the other me in the future. I seem to recall someone mentioning something along these lines, lay something or other... that movie Donnie Darko has a similar notion.
There is a serious flaw in that, however. First, the incorrect statement: " I mean consciousness really has no mass, thus it wouldn't abide by scientific boundaries of physics." Actually, there is one physical "law" that does apply - time.
The problem lies in the fact that people want to visualize time like some sort of river, flowing backwards into the past and forward into the future. And that's not true at all. Time is simply the "now". There is no past - that "now" is gone forever. And there is no "future" - that "now" has not yet occurred. And since there is no direct connection between those two things (that do not even exist) and the moment we call "now" there can also be no passing of information between any of them.
You can certainly make some predictions about the future. And if you have enough accurate information then you'll have a fair chance of getting at least part or more of your prediction correct. And the mind can very easily do the same while you are sleeping.
Consider this: How many time have you dreamed of something and part of it came true? A few times? How many times have you made plans for the future and had it almost work out like you wanted? And how many times did it not?
So, we naturally base our ideas of the future on what we think we know - and sometimes not even being fully aware (consciously) of what we know. And that is both while we are awake and while sleeping. :)
Giambattista 03-17-06, 01:40 AM There is a serious flaw in that, however. First, the incorrect statement: " I mean consciousness really has no mass, thus it wouldn't abide by scientific boundaries of physics." Actually, there is one physical "law" that does apply - time.
So! Time has mass, does it?
And there is no "future" - that "now" has not yet occurred. And since there is no direct connection between those two things (that do not even exist) and the moment we call "now" there can also be no passing of information between any of them.
How extremely presumptuous of you, Light. Like your pompous comments about mutations a while back.
Making more sudden and ill-conceived statements?
So, we naturally base our ideas of the future on what we think we know - and sometimes not even being fully aware (consciously) of what we know. And that is both while we are awake and while sleeping. :)
Already duly considered years ago, Light. You're not preaching anything I myself have never thought or heard before. Though if this is for the sake of another "lesser" then I suppose your effort is in the best of intentions.
NEXT, please! :p
So! Time has mass, does it? Nope, wasn't even mentioned as such.
[/QUOTE]Already duly considered years ago, Light. You're not preaching anything I myself have never thought or heard before. Though if this is for the sake of another "lesser" then I suppose your effort is in the best of intentions.
NEXT, please! :p[/QUOTE]
I didn't even have the slightest doubt that MANY people had not already reached that conclusion long, long ago. But it was obvious that some hadn't. :)
Giambattista 03-17-06, 02:14 AM I didn't even have the slightest doubt that MANY people had not already reached that conclusion long, long ago. But it was obvious that some hadn't. :)
Not in every instance, no. Because some of us are able to see when it applies and when it doesn't.
heliocentric 03-18-06, 11:50 PM scientifically theres no way to seperate coincidence from something predictive, so just go with whatever feels most right in your gut.
Btw odd question, but were you neglected or left to take care of yourself while growing up? its just all the people ive known who have frequent premonitions within their dreams have had this type of childhood.
Sorry but I know 2 people who have predictive dreams that were neither neglected or left to take care of themselves. One only remembers dreams that are predictive that cause her to wake up. The time on the clock when she wakes up is the time the event will happen. So far the dreams that wake her up have been rare but 100% accurate.
heliocentric 03-19-06, 08:58 PM Sorry but I know 2 people who have predictive dreams that were neither neglected or left to take care of themselves. One only remembers dreams that are predictive that cause her to wake up. The time on the clock when she wakes up is the time the event will happen. So far the dreams that wake her up have been rare but 100% accurate.
cool, i wasnt saying there is a definite link there between neglect and premonitions i just thought there might be, although your experiences would suggest otherwise. ;)
jagäroberoende 03-20-06, 04:03 PM scientifically theres no way to seperate coincidence from something predictive, so just go with whatever feels most right in your gut.
Btw odd question, but were you neglected or left to take care of yourself while growing up? its just all the people ive known who have frequent premonitions within their dreams have had this type of childhood.
I was never neglected, but I did have some things happen to me when I was younger that would definitely constitute a chemical disorder, if that's what you want to call it.
Thanks for the replies by the way. I'm just wondering if this really is precognitive thought... hmmm it's interesting. :cool:
jagäroberoende 03-20-06, 04:06 PM Oh and to answer the question about part of them being correct... actually all of them are correct... to the tee. Like when I dreamt my aunt was pregnant with her third child and that she would have blonde hair, blue eyes, and look like her father, I was right. It has happened very often. I have many examples of dreams coming true.
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