Powell: Iran is a long way from having nuclear weapon

Blatantly obvious to everyone with a level head that Iran is only building a power station I wonder will the supporters of the War On Terror scream that Powell is Pro Iranian ?

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Interesting. But on what evidence is Powell basing his opinion?

And ditto for you, too, Brian .....on what evidence do you base your opinions?

Baron Max

 

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Brian lives in a place where the Busses Don't Run. That's where all his opinions come from.

as for Powell... i don't know if he gets access to the most up to date spy data from the CIA & Mossad, but he has a history of being a dove.

he just doesn't want America to war with Iran.

given his embarassment at the UN when he presented false spy data to the world, he is probably highly reluctant to trust ANY spy data. he probably won't even look at it. who can blame him...

 

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Did they find teh WMDs yet?

 

you are the resident WMS here at sciforms
weapon of mass spamming

any telemarketer would be proud to have you on their team.

 

Powell knows war, unlike most in the White House. Maybe he's trying to make up for selling out on the issue of Iraq. I think it's plausable that Iran wants a nuclear weapon, but there's no proof of that, and they are allowed by international law to use nuclear power for energy.

 

No they never did find anything in Iraq.

Iran has every reason to develop nuclear weapons. Being a nuclear nation brings about a lot of political leverage and respect on the world stage. But the issue isn't that a country is developing nuclear capabilities it's that a country run by a religion is developing those capabilities.

 

The Americans already have plenty of nuclear weapons and they've shown that they are dumb enough to use them as well.

Can you say the same about Iran?

 

But do we want to take the chance? Nope, we don't .....and obviously neither does the UN or anyone else that I can think of. ...except for you, Sam! You'd love for a bunch of Muslim radicals to have WMDs, woudln't you?!

Baron Max

 

Saddam didn't run his country with religious fanaticism and we invaded em anyways even though he was gonna supposedly have a nuke any time now as well, heh. They're just saying nukes, regardless who is supposedly trying to develop em, because that's what scares people the most. Nuke, nuke, nuke, Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda. Pakistan and North Korea have yet to give a nuke to Al Qaeda or bomb India or South Korea. We simply don't want people to have nukes because then we can't control or invade em anymore.

Well, ya'll fell for the Iraq story, and basically the same things are being said about Iran, so I don't blame this administration for trying a second time.

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Radical Muslims already have WMDs and nukes, but they've yet to use em just like everyone else, excluding us. Hey, the more Muslims that have nukes, the less blowback we'll receive since we can't mess with em anymore.

- N

 

Whoaaa. Hold on a second there. When were we dumb enough to use them?
Don't even mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Those were well justified.
Unless, perhaps you think we should have just up and surrendered to Japan when they launched an unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor?? Maybe gave them a slap on the wrist and said, "Don't do that again little Japan"?

 

Japan was no longer a threat when we used em. The Soviets were just about to invade Japan with a huge force. The reason we nuked Japan was to show our power to the Soviets, not to cripple Japan even more. We didn't want Communists in Japan (nor Vietnam, Korea, etc, etc) so we did what we did to occupy it and keep it from the Soviets.

The nukes had nothing to do with the Axis powers, but our next rivals, the few world powers left that had any power after the World War. After the powers in Europe were crippled so badly, we were next on the throne to be the superpower we've maintained to this day. The U.S. and the Soviets were the only ones left, time to have an arms race to see who gets to be top dog.

- N

 

Interesting that you say that .....because right up to the time of the drop, they were still killing American soldiers! And in fact, the Japanese were still killing Americans for weeks after the drop!

Baron Max

 

Would you say 9/11 was well justified? Did it work?

The Japanese did not surrender even after the bombing, not until their conditions were met.

And btw

 

...LOL! You're so fuckin' funny, Sam!! ...LOL!

Nope, the Japanese officially surrendered UNCONDITIONALLY ...which is exactly as the Allies wanted it. The Japanese tried to get conditions, but those were nixed ....all of them.

Baron Max

 

Too bad, we didn't kill enough of 'em ...we should have dropped a few more big ones!

Baron Max

 

Nope, the Allies had to agree to keep the Emperor, after the coup attempt failed. The Emperor was the one who gave the national address.

 

That was the plan:

 

The Japanese were willing to fight till every last man at the time. Dropping a nuclear weapon on two cities was the far less costly thing to do for both sides.

If push came to shove its likely that any nuclear capable country would use it's nuclear weapons.

I assume you're talking about Pakistan here.

You're point is essentially the same as the one I made previously. Being a nuclear capable nation earns you a lot of things including protection from invasion.

 

We take a chance on India, Israel, Pakistan, North Korea, South Africa, Japan... the list goes on.