Ok if we started with Adam and Eve 7000 years ago? Was it 7000? And today we have 6 billion people, does the maths work out?

What are the factors we need to look at here?

Also what would be the factors if we looking at the Maths for Evolution filling the earth with 6 Billion.

So we are looking at:

Bible Maths vs Evolution Maths

One two, one two, duck, punch.

Has it been 7000 years already. Where does the time go? I think you may have to readjust the time scale because if I recall the good Lord slaughtered an entire Earth's population some years after A&E (5000 years ago?) leaving only a small ship's crew alive.

Has it been 7000 years already. Where does the time go? I think you may have to readjust the time scale because if I recall the good Lord slaughtered an entire Earth's population some years after A&E (5000 years ago?) leaving only a small ship's crew alive.

:p not only that, 6500 years ago polynesians and north east asians were drag racing to the main (new world) to grow super corn.

Really though "Major" civilzation has been proven to exist between 6500-8000 in years in SOUTH AMERICA :eek:. so i don't know where you get 7k from?

ArtofWar please don't worry to much about facts after all we are talking about the Bible here.

Lucy from Ethiopia - one of the oldest hominids has been dated to at least 3.5 millions years old ......

Can anyone shed some light on the Bible's age for mankind? The line of descent goes from adam and eve to christ doesn't it? Then again thing really start again in Noah's time!

Well hypothetically this would mean that we all come from a bunch of inbred bastard’s seeing how Adam and eve were parentless children searching for truth in form of Thomas Hobbs’s “state of nature”

The inbreeding was so rife that most people were giving birth to themselves.

well either way we come from someform of self recreation or reproduction. when bacteria splits it duplicates itself. So i guess i would rather adhere to the theory explaining lower lifeforms doing anything to survive/reproduce and eventually evolving into lifeforms of Moral consequence that practice Coitus

Don't forget Adam lived for 930 years. That's plenty of time despite the Earth being 6 or 7 thousand years old, to get the human population up to 6 billion.

Don't forget Adam lived for 930 years. That's plenty of time despite the Earth being 6 or 7 thousand years old, to get the human population up to 6 billion.

Also since we all know that people in the bible were all white, the people in Africa and New Guiniea did some serious tanning in just two Millennia, and that is if the serious bible goers of the late 1500's believed that they were actually human ;)

Don't forget Adam lived for 930 years. That's plenty of time despite the Earth being 6 or 7 thousand years old, to get the human population up to 6 billion.

:o The one man Theory, Wow :)

Well hypothetically this would mean that we all come from a bunch of inbred bastard’s seeing how Adam and eve were parentless children searching for truth in form of Thomas Hobbs’s “state of nature”

Before the b-thumping community jumps on this one it may be good to know that Genesis also states god made more of us after A&E.

Before the b-thumping community jumps on this one it may be good to know that Genesis also states god made more of us after A&E.

So your saying that alexb123's "one man theory" is indirect truth :D, cuz if that is the case Adam should be all out of Ribs then! alright just kidding seriously where in Da Bible, umm Genesis is this stated?

Not sure where but it was pointed out to me by somebody awhile back when I used the same logic. I have a bible here to reference but if i pull it out to look at it my chair will fall over.

Psychotic any ideas how many others were made?

ArtOfWar I want to base my views here on Maths. Although I believe in Evolution this might be a chance for creationists to prove a better case. Maybe you can draw some evidence from the Bible, that can be tested, this might be one of them?

[QUOTE=alexb123]Psychotic any ideas how many others were made?

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Doesn't really matter if he made 6 billion. God kills 'em all anyway in the flood. OOPs, except the ship builder and immediate family.

Has it been 7000 years already. Where does the time go? I think you may have to readjust the time scale because if I recall the good Lord slaughtered an entire Earth's population some years after A&E (5000 years ago?) leaving only a small ship's crew alive.
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M*W: Then they made a quirky TV series about it called "Gilligan's Island."

Has it been 7000 years already. Where does the time go? I think you may have to readjust the time scale because if I recall the good Lord slaughtered an entire Earth's population some years after A&E (5000 years ago?) leaving only a small ship's crew alive.
How merciful...

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M*W: Then they made a quirky TV series about it called "Gilligan's Island."

Only difference is there's a lot more sex between the Ark survivors.

Don't forget Adam lived for 930 years. That's plenty of time despite the Earth being 6 or 7 thousand years old, to get the human population up to 6 billion.
I wonder how many women he was with... damn! That's gotta be fun...

Except maybe the diseases... thank him for sexually transmitted diseases?

Well, Alexb123 with statistics you can prove anything if you want to :
If women get their children when they are 25 years old , that would mean that from
Noah 5000 years ago there would have been 200 reproductive generations (5000/25 =
200).
If each generation grows 12 % more than the former in average , it would mean that
now there would be 1.12 timed with itself 200 times = 6.9 billions x the first population (at least 2) = 13.8 billions .......... it is possible ......

that would mean that every woman should get 2.24 surviving children in average - does anybody have a saw .............

Thanks Lord this is what I was looking for, but can anyone add more details to this? Birth and mortality rates over time need to be added, so wars and diesease etc.

Also nobody has attemped to work out the evolution stats. If we are talking about man being around for millions of years then the stats would be a totally diff story. Maybe even a provable story.

I think Religion has won the first round.

As I said you can prove anything with statistics - sometimes even false things ......

The problem is that 5000 years might be to short a time for biological and racial diversity - in else all 13.8 billions might look a lot like Noah and his wife ....

Figures lie and liars figure.

So here's one culled from my memory banks.

Modern man....homo sapiens sapiens is only 25-30 thousand years old. I stand to be corrected.

I am sorry to inform you, Alexb123, but these facts (birth,mortality rates for the last 5000 years) are not recorded , I can only provide you with this theoretical statistic, that actually only proves that it is theoretical possible in numbers , but probably not in reality .........

Thanks Lord this is what I was looking for, but can anyone add more details to this? Birth and mortality rates over time need to be added, so wars and diesease etc.

Also nobody has attemped to work out the evolution stats. If we are talking about man being around for millions of years then the stats would be a totally diff story. Maybe even a provable story.

I think Religion has won the first round.

I guess what you want are answers from an Evangelical stance, and that i cannot give so... I think you're better off reading from sites like these

Q&A bible/science (http://www.everystudent.com/forum/science.html)
Missing still missing? (http://www.everystudent.com/wires/ditching.html) My advice is to learn a much about each and every major Religion if for some reason you are inclided to study religion over science.