Poll: In 5 days Tortise will unveil a perpetual motion machine- yes or no

On May 12th at 4:35pm Tortise will exhibit perpetual motion. Yes or no

We will define perpetual motion as motion that does not slow at all for a reasonably long period of time without any additional energy being put into the system.

 

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How long is a reasonably long period?
How much usuable energy will be contained in the system at its initiation, and in what form?
Will the machine continue moving in spite of losses to friction, heat, and so forth, or does it continue moving because it avoids such losses?

I voted yes. Let's see what comes of it!

 

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Harumph !

I chose the bottom/4th option before realizing that Tortoise mis-spelled the phrase "hare brained", as I thought at least he/she/it/they had made a cute li'l pun based on his/her/it's/their handle/nickname/monikker.

I therefore change my vote to the 3rd option, since Tortoise has altered the meaning of the term perpetual to suit his/her/it's/their own purpose(s), plus has/have no sense of humor worth mentioning, and is/are therefore a jackass(es).

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I voted

Also, that's not really the official definition of perpetual motion.

 

The moon has been in orbit for a reasonably long period of time. And it's still moving!

-Dale

 

Ok, DaleSpam hit close to it. Mime was the Earth around the sun. Why isn't this perpetual motion?

 

i voted the fourth option

 

ah yes
i voted before i read the first post
you do realize tortise that what you are describing is not perpetual motion

 

Why?

 

because perpetual motion does not "run down"
it keeps running without any added energy

 

How does the Earth's orbit "run down"?

 

Actually it does, it is slowing down.

edit: Here is some info

http://www.novan.com/earth.htm

 

That's all very informitive Avatar, but we are talking about the solar year not the rotational velocity of the Earth.

 

Sorry then, I misunderstood, didn't read the previous posts.

 

The force of gravitation between the sun and a planet is always pulling the planet toward the sun. The planet does not fall into the sun because of the centrifugal effect of its orbital motion. It is kept steady in its orbit, like any other planet or satellite, by two balancing forces, the gravitational pull of the sun, and the centrifugal force due to its own speed. The speed of the earth varies depending upon its location in relation to the sun.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/IlanaEpstein.shtml

 

You might say that the Earth was traveling in a stright line, and that space time was curved, but in any case if not for the sun, the Earth would still be traveling in a straight line, and therefore still be in motion forever relative to our system - either way, there is motion, and it will go on for all intensive purposes - forever. Right? And I respectfully disagree with your assertion that it does not fall into the sun because of some certerfugal effect, it (Earth) had motion to begin with - that is why it does not "fall into the sun".

 

I think so, but I'm not a cosmologist.

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my best guess would be the following:
space is not entirly empty therefor as the earth moves in it's orbit it collides with the particles in space and slows it down

another factor would be comets and meteors

 

Because:

a) The system is initiated with enough usuable energy to keep it in motion for a reasonably long period of time without any additional energy being put into the system.

b) It doesn't continue moving in spite of losses to friction, heat, and so forth, it continues moving because it avoids such losses.

I thought you might be thinking of something like this, hence my initial questions.

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