Politics in heavy metal

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by android, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    From 100% Metal Forum:

    " Every genre has shared beliefs. Similar ideas = similar sound = genre.

    In black metal, it is almost exclusively derived from European romanticism. Worship of the ancient, experience instead of material results, looking at life as adventure, death is balanced by beauty of life as a whole including suffering and death. European romantics like Keats, Shelley, Blake, Wordsworth also influenced the Doors and Black Sabbath.

    As part of its focus on nature, romanticism is nationalistic. Why? Nationalism preserves uniqueness (difference) over sameness; without nationalism, everyone gets bred into one type of person ("the grey race," as some say). Nationalism is not racism; racism is universal preference for one race over all others, where nationalism is preference for each race in its own country. A racist would exterminate all black people, but a nationalist would remove all white people from Africa and all black people from Europe.

    I don't see the black metal people as hateful racists like the moronic degenerates from GBK (except their vocalist Rich, from Vinland Winds, who is a good guy in my book even if I don't agree with him on everything). Racists try to prove that black people/Jews/Mexicans suck by showing you intelligence charts, skull shapes, crime stats, whatever; my point as a nationalist is that I don't care to pass judgments on other people. Intelligence isn't OBJECTIVELY proven as a beneficial trait, nor is lack of what we call criminal behavior. These are things (in philosophical terms) specific to our tribe. Nationalists say each tribe should have its own space, and be defined ethnically, culturally and linguistically. That's a logical "and" between those, so without all three, a person does not qualify, e.g. an ethnic German who behaves according to some other cultural standard would be excluded as would a Zulu who behaves according to a German cultural standard. Nationalism is a Darwinistic, localized view of populations as organic entities.

    SO what I'm trying to say here is...

    You can be a nationalist without getting involved in what I see as "hate." I think both neo-Nazis and anti-Nazis are fucked up, hateful, dysfunctional people. I don't have a problem with trueblood National Socialists; I'm not fond at all of "white nationalism" and "white supremacy" as these are crowdist genres (revenge of the masses against the elites).

    I don't think black metal is inherently hateful, and I don't think it's inherently Nazi, but I know that it's not capable of being anti-Nazi. It is inherently nationalist. Americans often don't understand nationalism because they are of mixed European and other tribes. Those people's opinions are irrelevant however as it is selfishness that motivates them to call nationalism racism, hate, etc. "

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