Political spin on the Popes death

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Prisme, Apr 9, 2005.

  1. Prisme Speak of Ideas, not of things Registered Senior Member

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    Well.. here we are again, confronted with the grim fact that the media and the people always prefer to love and admire the dead rather than the living... not to mention the incapability of taking a break talking about it.

    I was watching the Daily show the other day and I was yet again presented with another 'Bush fact'. Of course, that Bush fact has not been actually spoken by Bush.. (since he has stopped giving interviews a couple of years ago in order to save face and allowing us to imagine him smarter than he really is) but we can clearly recognize the Bush mentality in the words of his lackeys.

    Go see this movie:
    http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/
    (title: Papal talking points)

    and\or this neutral article:

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050408/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pope_bush_26
    (Bush, Clinton disagree on Pope's legacy -Yahoo!)

    Summary: Bush and Bush lovers only shed light on certain ideals of the Pope in order to present a fake image of having been completely in agreement with the man when he was alive. Pro-Bush folks like to remind us that the Pope and Bush are both pro-life, but refused to 'get in the details' when being questionned about the fact that both men shared conflicting ideas concerning the death penalty and the war in Iraq.

    My comment:
    As John and other media personalities point out, there seems to be an inherent contradiction in being pro-life and at the same time advocating the death penalty. Usually, when someone is pro-life he invokes the idea that since humans are created by God (even the zygote or foetus) then it is a murder to destroy that life-in-becoming. However, it is rather puzzling that a pro-life advocate would consider destroying a pile of unstructured cellular mass a murder but could at the same time tolerate the state authorized killing of a full fledged human being (In their own words, they are also a creation of God, since we are all children of God).

    In conclusion, being that this position (pro-life and pro-death penalty) is rationaly impossible to hold on any grounds I believe this once again shows the frail nature of the dogmatic religious right currently backing the president in thinking things trough without holding a biais the size of the Pope's hat. Finally, such individuals who share such a dysfunction in reasoning would clearly have no scrupples to use a famous man's death to their illusionary advantage.

    Prisme

    We haven't found the WMD, but we found a lot of the fools instead.
     
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  3. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Man What I don't understand is why didn't the ADL didn't stand up agaist Bush when he ordered all flags be flown at 1/2 mask in oreder to recongnise this religious leader. This comming from the "same" government that ordered the Ten Commandments be removed from an Alabama court house. It just doesn't make any sense:

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  5. Prisme Speak of Ideas, not of things Registered Senior Member

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    Quick attempt to revive this debate:

    Why do you think that the Pope's death was so publicized by the media when we barely heard of him in the last two years he was alive?
     
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  7. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Because the media is a whore, it will do any story that will get millions to watch. However the Pope's death and burial didn't bring as many peple or media attention as the death of Lady Di. Perhaps because she died as a young woman, and the old fart died of old age. Her death was a tragic accident; the Pope just deteriorated by his old age and lack of good exercize.

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