Is being politically correct really that important? How much should we tolerate those we disagree with?
First give an example of something that politically incorrect and then lets ask if it should be tolerated.
Well that didn't take long to show the op how important it is!! Thanks for showing us, who truly understand how much P.C. is killing our country, how incredibly inept the P.C. culture is.
What is considered politically incorrect and is punished in a variety of ways varies depending on what political, religious or belief system group is doing the judging and the punishing.
I really do not object to people saying anything at all as long as they are truthful and also they do not try to hide their own weaknesses, mistakes.....etc. You can not be bashing a race all the time forgetting that your own race is full of garbage and full of nuts.....etc .
No seriously someone drop something that politically incorrect, I'm have difficulty actually figuring out what is or is not politically correct.
Well, with some people being a man and having a gay male friend is politically incorrect (let alone being the gay male friend). With other people calling that person a fucking faggot is politically incorrect. Political incorrectness is in the eye of the beholder - as are all moral judgments. It is one human value. Generally the term is used to describe values of the left or of feminists. But this glosses over the fact that every group has its little rules for speech and behavior.
How that politically incorrect, a factual error yes, but I don't see anything offensive in that, maybe if your had said he quadrupled the debt in watermellon and fried chicken consumption that would be politically incorrect? So you mean like, if the word "niger" can be used or not?
Which might be seen as politically incorrect if uttered in the presence of some. And in the presence of others pointing out that Obama is then following in the footsteps of Reagan would be non PC.
Well, I think most people can handle the mentioning of an African country, but depending on how one described it, one could be seen as politically incorrect.
Not so important as a valid topic. Serious discussions of a full spectrum of political views are encouraged by the management here. A literal definition of PC goes like this (from Merriam-Webster's in my example): More colloquially, PC often suggests going to ridiculous extremes to avoid all controversial terms and issues. Going to any extremes is not the policy at Sciforums- there is some latitude, provided our posts do not appear to be intended to insult or anger other members, and do not seem to express bigotry or hatred such as we find unwelcome in polite company anywhere. We should tolerate those we disagree with here for as long, or as much as we wish to participate here ourselves. If you become concerned that another member may be violating forum rules, it is fitting to advise a moderator. When it's hard to pin down some provocative word or post here as a violation of any particular forum rule, then my advice is to do nothing; to decline responding in any way; to simply move on. There are some notes on this at the top of the World / Politics subforum: The forum rules here do not impose rigid "PC" culture. We're not on a hair-trigger to crack down at any reference to controversial terms. However, if a contributor persists in insulting others here with persistently offensive or unintelligent terms or tone, then they are shown to the door; if a member persists in testing the limits, moderators will oblige in providing the experimenter with conclusive results- beginning with warnings, and culminating in banning, if nothing else deters a pattern of offense. Here's a guideline from the Sciforums FAQs: As members here we need not be scrupulously "PC"; just respectful of other members, and the norms of good conversation and debate anywhere. As a moderator, I appreciate your question, flameofanor5. I hope you will understand why I am moving this thread to Site Feedback- You've raised an important topic in considering how to participate here, but it's not really a topic that falls under the scope of Politics in the wider sense. If there's some provocative term that you're anxious to post, but you're unsure if it falls within the rules and spirit of the rules here, then I invite you to contact the staff directly about it. Clear and honorable intentions can earn considerable latitude around here. Welcome to Sciforums, and thanks for asking about this, flameofanor5.
You prefer everything to be PC also. That's why you hate it when Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson open their mouths about anything. If your so tolerant to people saying things that aren't PC, why do you hate Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson so much?
Yeah, I hate it how all these conseratives freaked out and said I was unpatriotic when I called Bush a Warmonger or that the war was about oil, shifting public funds to private organizations with ties to the admin, etc. All these politically correct conservatives jumped down my throat and labeled me. And then there are the people who freak if you say African American and label me. And then there are the people for whom 'faggot' is the politically correct term for a gay man and who get upset whe you use 'gay.' This stuff is destroying America!
A brief, incomplete overview Depends on the setting. I know people who have complained about political correctness ever since they couldn't use words like "bitch" and "nigger" to address people at their workplace. Around 1992, Henry Beard and Christopher Cerf published The Politically Incorrect Handbook and Dictionary, which is an excellent and humorous resource. Naturally, the book is rife of contextual distortions, but that's also a classic basis for comedy. You can see some ridiculous examples there, like "femhole" and "ableism". But the reality is that political correctness is nothing other than a synonym for polite speech. It's a matter of propriety. For instance, a woman named Angela I knew some years back. No, there's nothing particularly unsettling to me about hearing her latest tale of strange vaginal discharge. But at the dinner table, in front of children, discussing the issue with her new boyfriend's mother? If you're the type of person who gets a rush out of words like nigger, bitch, and faggot, that's just fine. But if you want to take that to work, expect resistance. If you want to address people that way on the bus downtown, go ahead and take your chances. I'm not going to extend any sympathy if you get fired. To the other, I'm not sure what I'll say if someone beats your teeth in for abusing other people on a bus. If you want to take such an attitude to the pub, just remember that people are exercising their own right to free speech when, instead of nigger, faggot, or bitch, they call you asshole, racist, and hatemonger. Political correctness has a proper station in the classroom or workplace. It even has a proper station at home, but some folks just see it differently. To the one, nobody I know has a clue what to call people who suffer mental retardation. Indeed, I'm sure I have used the wrong phrase; and, certes, "retard" has worked its way into colloquy in such a fashion as to make the general term suspect. However, the number of people who use words like "challenged" with finger-quotes suggests we're near the edge of people's comprehension or tolerance with phrases like "developmentally delayed" or, in the nauseating extreme, "acceptional". To the other, when one goes so far as to exploit their child as a political device—such as naming your children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation—you might just have pushed the home front too far forward. There are plenty of social theory experiments I would give a chance if I could devise a non-exploitative implementation. Generally speaking, I find political correctness non-intrusive, but then I am prone to euphemization, anyway. Some people, however, find the demands of being polite offensive to their identity politic.
The irony with the word Niger is that all it means is a negro or a black person . Also I heard many blacks calling one another Niger and joking about it . Like someone who is gay so if you call him or her gay what is the insult here ?. That is what they are and that is what people call them too .
The (two) obvious point(s) Every time I encounter this point, I pause to think about whether someone is new to the issue or just putting us on. Are you an only child? An orphan? I ask because there are plenty of things my brother and I said to one another over the years that we would never allow anyone else to say. And, certainly, I've said a few things about my parents over the years that nobody else would get away with. To the one, this is in part because with close relatives we are better positioned than some twat halfway around the world to criticize our family. To the other, it is a long-recognized principle in society that "we" get to criticize "our own" however we want, but other people are expected to follow different rules. Additionally, I would simply point out that words take on different contexts depending on the speaker and audience. I don't expect a black man to tolerate being called "nigger" by a white sheriff or politician or preacher. But "from one nigger to another"? I'll leave that to the people involved.
Friends can call each other bitch, asshole, son of a bitch, etc. If some stranger calls them that, it is a whole different can of beans. Further when white people use Nigger - I am not sure why we are spelling it Niger - they do not simply mean 'black person'. Maybe 75 years ago in the South some white people didn't mean it has a hateful term. I say maybe. But anyone using it nowadays knows damn well how it will be taken by those labeled and is making a choice with that in mind.
