I was taking a picture of the storm that was about to hit us and saw none of what you see in the pic now.I have not seen anything like this before and was wondering if anyone knew what the little buggers are?

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9734/untitled1cd5.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1cd5.jpg)

There are like 2 more little anomolies that I didn't arrow,so see what you think?I wanted to upload the high res. version but it's just too big.14.5mb

Fast-moving bugs blurred by their motion. Possibly dragon flies.

Okay,I did a zoom in of the two that really caught my eye.You really think they're bugs?

http://home.earthlink.net/~zekedod/closer.bmp

Looks to me like a simple light interaction with the lens. Glare, white light fill etc being examples of light interactions with optics.

Quite simply, if you didn't see this with your eye, but it was caught on camera, whatever it was only looks this way for exposures of between 0.1s and about 0.01s (ish), ie, faster than your eye can see, and just a little too fast to get a clear picture of. I'm guessing at 0.01s because being cloudy and dark the exposure would be fairly long. Therefore the suggestion that it is some sort of bug, expecially a fairly shiny one, like a dragon fly, is quite sound. Being brighter than it's surroundings, especially in low light, would give this stark contrast. It was probably fairly close to the camera too, closer than you expect looking at the picture.

It's nothing to get excited about. Just two alien flying saucers passing by overhead from another solar system out for a weekend cruise. They're just crusing around looking for a good ole planet earth fast food resturant to grab a quick hamburger and fries and then head on home.

NcMinus:

Yes. See Phlogistician's post for basically my rationale.

Makes sense to me.Thanks for the quick and down to earth answer.Lol@novacane.

where did the picture go?

It's there.I see it.Isp having problems with storms today so maybe thats it?

They're rods. (http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/cz/rods/rodcloseup.jpg) no doubt about it.

One question Ncminus, when you took the photo, were you just taking one of scenery or were you hoping to find something interesting to look at?

It was just a shot of the storm coming.What the heck is a rod?

Rods have been proven to be insects.

Theres another phenomena that this has reminded me of as well.
If I find it I'll post it, very interesting.

Found it.
A man who is studying this newly discovered phenomena is named Martyn Stubbs.
He is introduced at the 15 minute mark.
I'm not saying this is what you have captured for sure, it just reminded me of it.
Enjoy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2993802767166351279&q=smoking+gun

Those remind me of model rockets.... and I am not talking about the Estes $20 rockets. These remind me of the high power ones... could be anywhere between an F engine to P... but considering the clouds, likely just an F or G white lightening motors.

However two at the same time? Maybe... but not likely.

Those remind me of model rockets.... and I am not talking about the Estes $20 rockets. These remind me of the high power ones... could be anywhere between an F engine to P... but considering the clouds, likely just an F or G white lightening motors.

However two at the same time? Maybe... but not likely.

Yea......Like I said, just two alien flying saucers from another solar system cruising by overhead looking for a 'In & Out Burger'. Only logical answer. :D

Yea......Like I said, just two alien flying saucers from another solar system cruising by overhead looking for a 'In & Out Burger'. Only logical answer.

Haha.. seems to be the only loophole to my solution ;)

But launching two high power rockets at the same time is always a bad idea... but if these guys are doing it in their field then oh well.

My advice would be to call the FAA and ask if anyone applied for an air space waiver around that time in that area. The reason is that if something (rockets or ANYTHING else) is over 1 pound and goes a certain altitude, by LAW they must notify the FAA and get a waiver.. or they could get into some trouble...

Don't mess with the feds :p Try messing with the FCC :eek:

Though I assume you live in the US.. if not, call whatever aviation administration you got.

Haha.. seems to be the only loophole to my solution ;)



There is another loophole, two similar blurs to the bottom left near the bush. As the bush gives us an approximation of distance, and we can see that the higher blurs are about the same size, I'd guess all items are foreground objects of a similar size to a dragonfly, and not HPR rockets, ....

Im thoroughly convinced that they are insects.Funny though as I have a couple friends that think theyre ghosts or ufo's.I have an open mind about the unknown but these things are obviously just bugs.Even though I have tried to convince them of this they still want to believe they are something unexplainable.Kinda gives you insight into what the average joe sees and wants to believe.I can honestly say that I have seen a ufo many years ago while living in Puerto Rico.I was 11 at the time.My family and another family were at our beach shack enjoying the day when we spotted a shimmering silver metallic looking object not 10 yards off shore.It was maybe 15ft in diameter and the shape of an orb.It moved horizontally along the shore and it's path did not vary whatsoever.You couldn't make out any detail as it seemed to be almost made of a liquid.We followed it for a mile walking behind it.It went over a dune and vanished.This incedent was witnessed by over 15 people.One of them being my father who was a Coast Guard helicopter radioman,and his Commander who was also the commander of BorinquenCoast Guard airstation at the time.They were completely bewildered as to what it could of been and never spoke of it outside our family get togethers.Kinda cool eh?To this day I don't have any idea of what it was that we saw that day.It does however make for interesting conversation at parties.

Maybe, just maybe (as remote as it may be), it's possible some super-advanced aliens from another solar system landed here on earth over 100 million years ago during the age the dinosaurs. Nothing like a friendly T-Rex greeting party to welcome our space visitors from afar. At least they didn't have to worry about a return trip back to their home planet.

There is another loophole, two similar blurs to the bottom left near the bush. As the bush gives us an approximation of distance, and we can see that the higher blurs are about the same size, I'd guess all items are foreground objects of a similar size to a dragonfly, and not HPR rockets, ....

Oh! I didn't even look at the lower left.

Oh! I didn't even look at the lower left.

And that underlines the danger of hypothesizing with just a subset of the data!

Bugs is a bunk theory, I think more properly is to note the storm like conditions, it's most likely the light of a flash, or simply light reflecting off of rain drops or dew, even mist.

Found it.
A man who is studying this newly discovered phenomena is named Martyn Stubbs.
He is introduced at the 15 minute mark.
I'm not saying this is what you have captured for sure, it just reminded me of it.
Enjoy.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2993802767166351279&q=smoking+gun

I was going to say the same thing.. looks very similiar, but this is ON EARTH. :D

Bugs is a bunk theory, I think more properly is to note the storm like conditions, it's most likely the light of a flash, or simply light reflecting off of rain drops or dew, even mist.

Was a flash used?

What other light source would cause only four objects to show up? How do you explain the blurring if a flash was used, as generally flash use means a shorter exposure?

Thats the thing.There was no flash used.I still buy the bug theory though.

Thats the thing.There was no flash used.I still buy the bug theory though.

I could tell from the consistency of the foregrond lighting with the rest of the scene that there was no flash. I wanted to know why joojoo thought one could have been used. ie, what he was seeing that just wasn't there!

Rods have been proven to be insects.
Rods have been theorized to be insects, they've yet to be captured. (Last time I checked anyway.) You could stretch it and say they're White Orbs (AKA Will O Wisps, not the marsh gas type fyi, and Jack-My-Lantern), but I agree on dragon flies. You see your picture seems to be taken in summer time and dragon flies mate then. Note the figures are coming at each other or are in the same area.

Rods have been theorized to be insects, they've yet to be captured.

Rods are insects. Proven, sorry.

Picture of some funny looking insects: http://www.subversiveelement.com/files/seqa1.jpg

Picture of some funny looking insects: http://www.subversiveelement.com/files/seqa1.jpg

Ha! I think that image was taken from a documentary thet debunked 'rods' as insects, but here it appears as proof for!

Above the foliage at the bottom, is an object, which appears to be be a guy. In the documentary I saw, these guys were 'base jumping' into a cavern, and there were lots of insects around the mouth. Occasionally, some were in the right place to create a 'rod' effect.

The_Other_Saint:

No, the case is quite closed on the matter:

http://skepdic.com/rods.html

I made a thread (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57331) about this too.

Cant see how they could be bugs and on a few i see streaks, one is probably a dead pixel. Mine were different still, interesting.

That explanation here (http://skepdic.com/rods.html) would make me think they would appear constantly ;)

ncminus, I think you may find that those marks are not on the negative. It looks like print was damaged.

I've always wondered how those rods showed up. I always just thought they were insects that actually looked like that. The first time I saw them in a video, it was a BASE jumping video from a cave in Mexico. I just thought they had weird insects there. But the frequency of the wingbeats makes sense.

It could be little specks of moisture on the lens. They all travel the same direction. If the flash is above the lens then maybe the specks caught a little light.

they are orbs.

they are orbs.
Oh? And how do you know this?

How about this:

They are GHOST OF BUGS!

They look like bugs, but are complitely white. Also, they emerge and disappear at will.

They are GHOST OF BUGS!

You know, I've used this argument against ghosts, ghouls and spectres, ... why don't we see ghost bugs? Some die horribly by swat, spray or sticky paper and must have 'unifinished business' binding their little souls to this realm, but we don't get reports of bug hauntings, unless;

They look like bugs, but are complitely white. Also, they emerge and disappear at will.

These are the ones that you just can never swat. You swing, but they seem to move through the swat without harm. Maybe they are ghost bugs, ....