http://www.bylaketahoe.com/Hurricane.htm See the NEW physics to describe a phenomenon that is unique to many current ideas has anyone ever thought about the idea that perhaps hurricanes are electromagnetic in nature? then imagine if galaxies are too. (the idea i note is that magnetism is far more powerful than gravity by definition)
Really read the paper, Bishadi, instead of reading your typical nonsense into it. The author is not saying that hurricanes are not governed by gravity or the Earth's rotation. What he is saying is that electromagnetism might have an additional effect beyond what we already know.
what non-sense? what was said that is bringing up your imaginary claim (your own non-sense)? the thread was so others can see the physics of other scientist. and what line in the OP caused you such a miscomprehension of my question? (when did i say, "earth rotation", or "not governed by gravity"?) this is what i wrote as i think you maybe having difficulty. See the NEW physics to describe a phenomenon that is unique to many current ideas has anyone ever thought about the idea that perhaps hurricanes are electromagnetic in nature? then imagine if galaxies are too. (the idea i note is that magnetism is far more powerful than gravity by definition) People in science share ideas................ i asked if any had the same idea and then wondered if any thought of the idea within a galaxy model
Paper is probably nonsense. So he compares clouds over the ocean to commercial paint spray devices. Doesn't sound very reasonable to me, at least. These numbers sound pretty ridiculous to me.
Why? a phenomenon noticed within the industry try reading it again Paint spray technology uses electrostatic phenomena to achieve high level droplet charge effects without electrical breakdown of air. Commercial atomizing devices, reference 1, (Measuring Charge-To-Mass Ratio Of Individual Droplets Using Phase Doppler Interferometery T. Gemci, R. Hitron and N. Chigier) (Chigier@andrew.cmu.edu www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/tgemci/ ILASS2002-Americas-Electrospray.pdf ) can obtain charge ratios they know that mass maintains energy and with the physics to calculate a ratio (at least they observe the 'charge' within the clouds) they can prepare their physics why? how much power in ONE lightning bolt? How many discharges in a typical thunder head? Would that charge create a magnetic field? do a cluster of thunderheads rotate around a center? (basically what a hurricane is) have you observed these parameters before? What about anyone you know in the field? could the causality be important in observing the formations of galaxies? Is it possible, with further observance to the properties of hurricanes, the predictability could be improved?
Did you read the rest of the post? Just because you can get those types of charges in clouds of metallic particles, doesn't mean that water vapor (which isn't a conductor) will have the same properties. No, I haven't. I said they sound unreasonable (they do). It is up to you, or the author of the paper, to show some sort of result which implies otherwise. Simply waving hands and making claims about industrial painting techniques is not a basis for a model of hurricane dynamics. I don't know what you mean be ``causality'' here, but magnetic fields DO (as far as I know) play some role in the formation of galaxies. There ARE magnetic fields in the voids between galaxies---this has been known for a long time. You need a model first. This is only an idea, which sounds unreasonable. The next step is to build a model incorporating this effect. If the model works, then I will concede that I was wrong.
sure and the "whole" pub (plus plus plus and then added some more) Come on..... be serious with what you are saying. ONE thunderstorm can release enough 'electric charge' within a couple lightning strickes to make quite the magnetic field just for the basics What a scary comment to read. The claim is that there may be, more to observe, over and above what many currently accept. Ie...... that energy will affect mass far more than gravity will and a method to observe that is easy. Magnetism by definition, is far more of affect on charged mass than gravity and since we all can witness the lightning within and the momentum and potential of a hurricane focused on a central occilation...... i personally see more to this than you do, apparently! are you suggesting this is observed and defined in a pub you have read? Please provide. (and with the physics, like the pub i did) When i suggest causality, i suggest the process causing the observable evidence. Some think causality is something defined mathematically which is a must logically but not what the term means. It is the philosophical comprehension of cause and effect. Enabling the understanding of the observable evidence/experience. (ie...that is why a simple ideology (the earth rotates) changed the method of observing evidence) That comment shares "you didn't read the pub." The physics is within and also methods of seeking the evidence. The model is within, the physics are within and your post shares a big WOW! You jumped in without actually spending a little time reading the publication and going over the physics. Ouch!
