View Full Version : Personality Types...?


zajhein
04-13-07, 09:02 PM
I would like to know what people think on the subject. Please don't just bash it because you don't like Carl Jung, being classified, or some other such nonsense.

The general image I get from popular culture about personality types is that "people shouldn't be classified!" and it's immoral to base someone's job application or placement because of things like that. I don't really want to hear about the sociological effects of using a system like personality types, but just the ideas behind it. Such as, do you agree with some of the 4 classification of the way people deal with things? Or how they combine together to show our worldview and things like that. Though please leave pseudoscience personality types out like astrology types.

Basically, do you think they explain anything?

For reference for those of you that aren't familiar, go to
personalitypage.com
personalitypathways.com

draqon
04-13-07, 09:05 PM
cute. spam. lol

kwhilborn
04-13-07, 10:21 PM
All science started as pseudoscience.

zajhein
04-13-07, 10:51 PM
A nice little quip kwhilborn but meaningless, and are you on here just for your post count dragon?

It would be nice if someone with a real response commented instead of one liners not relationg to anything.

draqon
04-13-07, 11:11 PM
A nice little quip kwhilborn but meaningless, and are you on here just for your post count dragon?

It would be nice if someone with a real response commented instead of one liners not relationg to anything.

what exactly are you wishing to discuss?
don't send me to some site, elaborate it here.

Fraggle Rocker
04-13-07, 11:56 PM
I didn't bother going to the website but I assume this is the Myers-Briggs profile. Myers and Briggs were students of Jung who drastically oversimplified his work to come up with a model of human personality that they could sell to laymen.

Jung's model recognizes 23 distinct components that make up the human "spirit," for lack of a better word. This aligns with the pantheons of all the great religions, i.e. those before Abrahamism with its pathetic one-dimensional model of good vs. evil. It also shows up in the dramatis personae of Shakespeare's plays and even the character set on soap operas. The lover, the healer, the hunter, the reveler, the warrior, the leader, etc.

We all carry all of those "gods" inside of us, but in each of us some are more dominant than others, and they rise to power as appropriate in different situations.

Myers and Briggs found a clever way to reduce 23 components to 4, constrained each of them to an essentially binary scale, and used this to come up with a set of 16 distinct personalities. They focused on the characteristics that are of interest to office managers, teachers, etc. The M-B profile is widely used in business and schools, where people generally show only a part of their full personality.

It's exactly the kind of no-brainer multiple choice test that old-fashioned clueless managers and teachers like to use because it doesn't require any skill on their part. When they get the results they can just point at somebody and say, "Aha, you're an INTJ. You should be a computer programmer. And you're an ESFP. You should be in sales. And by the way, the two of you should not bother trying to be friends."

The M-B profile causes a lot of students and workers to be pigeonholed. The biggest flaw in it is that even in this Jung-For-Dummies version of the human spirit, different components of our personality take charge on different days as needed to help us deal with the world. If you take the M-B test on a day when you just had to take your daughter to the doctor to diagnose a frightening illness, you're going to test much differently than if you just planted a tree, wrote a song, or chased the local hoodlums out of your back alley with a shotgun.

The M-B is a fun test and if you take it a few times and average the score, it may tell you something useful or interesting about yourself in the narrow context of your office or your school courses. But please don't try to use it to figure out who you are out in the real world. There are whole aspects of you that it's blind to.

draqon
04-14-07, 12:03 AM
wow...so all we need is darksidZz making a poll on: what
Myers and Briggs, personality are you?

Absane
04-14-07, 08:46 AM
wow...so all we need is darksidZz making a poll on: what
Myers and Briggs, personality are you?

I can see this one happening.

Fraggle Rocker
04-14-07, 07:21 PM
Don't encourage him. Besides, I'm sure it's already been done. I think there's a statistic that in any group of more than 100 people, somebody has already done a Myers-Briggs survey. :)

Absane
04-14-07, 09:07 PM
Don't encourage him. Besides, I'm sure it's already been done.

I think you are correct... I remember seeing a poll in the past.

Read-Only
04-14-07, 11:18 PM
I would like to know what people think on the subject. Please don't just bash it because you don't like Carl Jung, being classified, or some other such nonsense.

The general image I get from popular culture about personality types is that "people shouldn't be classified!" and it's immoral to base someone's job application or placement because of things like that. I don't really want to hear about the sociological effects of using a system like personality types, but just the ideas behind it. Such as, do you agree with some of the 4 classification of the way people deal with things? Or how they combine together to show our worldview and things like that. Though please leave pseudoscience personality types out like astrology types.

Basically, do you think they explain anything?

For reference for those of you that aren't familiar, go to
personalitypage.com
personalitypathways.com

Sure, there are very different and distinct personality types - we all recognize most of the very easily. Without having to go to the extremes like Jung and Myers and Briggs, it's not at all difficult to classify most of the people you come into contact with as having one or more of the following characteristics:

Dumb, intelligent, gullible, discerning, interesting, boring, reasonable, unreasonable, lazy, workaholic, etc., etc.

So, like it or not, most everyone is easily pigeon-holed.

swivel
04-15-07, 06:50 AM
So, like it or not, most everyone is easily pigeon-holed.

Only for that moment, and in that situation. The constancy of "you" is an illusion. You are a different person in the morning than you are at night. When hungry or full. Around women and men. The tests usually tell people what they are like while taking tests.