Well then, I guess it's only fair...
after all there is no absolute "Perfect Male"
so the "Perfect Woman" in most men's ideals would be very lonley in his world!

Don't like it?
try being a woman for a while, mabey you might understand & become more apreciative of them!

Men got it made, they wake up, throw the hose, splash water on their faces, and they're out the door, not so easy for a Woman!
Men are such babies! (Boohoo!)

LOL
are you talking medical needs to be fuklfilled before leaving the house?
im confused on that one.

groove on all :)

almost all girls I've known are SLOBS! so there.....

yes men want to be motherd but.....

*who is most likely to help the other advance to a higher level of knoledge and understanding???(i puzzle on this issue and wonder if gender realy makes any difference?)

when we state the stereo type psychosis of males we should
try and balance by addressing both sides-as im sure you are aware :) but too often the masses use one to batter the other

i get your point time :)
to some degree anywho :) (i cant say for sure)
why dont we start a list of all the short falls of the psyche :)??????????????????????????????????????
get it out there to comment on(to be commented on)
groove on all :)
great thread 'time' :D

For starters ther is no such thing as a "Perfect" Human, Male, Female, or otherwise...(I know that this was only a "Metephore")

I did'nt intend this thread to badger one sex aginst the other, although I may inadvertantly have done so! none-the-less, my true intentions were to get us to realize that we take so much for granted in this throw away society of a need for instant gratification, that we seem to be more focused on sexual gratification, instead of moral obligations, and responsibility, and tend to forget not only "how" we all got here in the first place (birth from a woman's loins) but what it means to respect one another in spite of our sexual agressions.

Face it, men sure did'nt give a very good impression to Women treating them as second class citizens, or treating them as property, or chattle during our early history, for whatever reasons that may have contributed to this male behaviour towards Women, the ends does not justify the means here, it only continues to contribute to widen the gap between us, and feed fuel to the fire of this ongoing "Battle of the Sexes"

Sure we have made a lot of social progression, (mostly the Women whom need to be praised for initiating this social progression.) however we still have much further to go if we are to evolve beyond this. Yes there still is a battle ahead of us, and it may get much worse before it can get any better, however we must all not forget that we are capable of change, and unless we are willing to accept it, we will not be able to evolve beyond this, untill we do, and for the most part this involves "Getting out of our own way"

To all the Ladies out there, My hats off!

here here :)
madonas song is very interesting :D

you guys are SOL. already met her and married her. :-D

I am the perfect woman but I am not available.:D

after all there is no absolute "Perfect Male"
Wrong!

hI kRSTOFER

i hope all is goign well with you

you guys are SOL. already met her and married her. :-D

i just read the above, and was wondering whether you could get me a rather large bowl or bucket to vomit very violently into.

I am the perfect woman .:D


God help US!!!

~~~~~~~~~
Take it ez
zak

This thread sux

You only say 'cos you'd settle for an imperfect woman. :D

Thank you-----this revival cost you 186 mesetas. Would you like to resurrect another?

Face it, men sure did'nt give a very good impression to Women treating them as second class citizens, or treating them as property, or chattle during our early history, ...

And where men fucked up real bad was when we changed doing just that!!!

Baron Max

Men got it made, they wake up, throw the hose, splash water on their faces, and they're out the door, not so easy for a Woman!
Men are such babies! (Boohoo!)
Yeah? And women are flaky, emotional bitches.
We got it made???? First off, we have to deal with being horny all the time. Sometimes it's a blessing (only in the rare cases when you women aren't being stingy with the pussy), but most of the time it's a curse (because you all are always stingy with the pussy). Second, we have to deal with your constant mood swings and PMS (which I will say on your behalf is beyond your control as well, but still...), and your bossy attitude, especially well into a relationship and marriage.
We also have to deal with rejection...something you vagina owners don't have to deal with near as much as we do. There isn't much more damage you can do to a guy than bruising/denting his ego and confidence.
We have to deal with your childish flaky behavior (example, ceasing to return phone calls instead of having the maturity to tell someone 'it isn't going to work out'). We have to deal with the gold diggers, the professional daters and the all and all out psychos (yeah, all women are nuts, but some way more than others).


I did'nt intend this thread to badger one sex aginst the other, although I may inadvertantly have done so! none-the-less,
Yet you posted it anyway.

my true intentions were to get us to realize that we take so much for granted in this throw away society of a need for instant gratification, that we seem to be more focused on sexual gratification,
see above paragraph about men being horny all the time.

instead of moral obligations, and responsibility, and tend to forget not only "how" we all got here in the first place (birth from a woman's loins) but what it means to respect one another in spite of our sexual agressions.
I wish you could spend a month in a guy's shoes. We deal with more personal shit than you think.

Men got it made, they wake up, throw the hose, splash water on their faces, and they're out the door, not so easy for a Woman!
(Boohoo!)


why not?shave your head and stop wearing make up if you are gonna get all emotional about it :bawl:



you on the rag,yeah?

Well then, I guess it's only fair...
after all there is no absolute "Perfect Male"
so the "Perfect Woman" in most men's ideals would be very lonley in his world!
People would probably have varying opinions about how a "perfect" women would be...

Don't like it?
try being a woman for a while, mabey you might understand & become more apreciative of them!
I tried on Halloween, actually. I don't know how you can stand walking on those goddamn high heels. They are umcofortable and unhealthy. I think they should be banned.

Men got it made, they wake up, throw the hose, splash water on their faces, and they're out the door, not so easy for a Woman!
True. I remember trying to do my make up on Halloween. I don't know how you can stand all that torture...

Men are such babies! (Boohoo!)
Hey! We don't have it easy either! The law usually gives more power to mother then fathers, people are biased against us (as if all of us spend our day on the couch wathching football), and we have to deal with women when they are going through PMS and we have to be loving even when they are screaming at us in the first trimester. There's a lot of pressure on men. We are also expected to bring money home regardless of whether we help in the house or not. And when we do help in the hoise, nobody recognizes that. And... well, you get the point.

Thank you-----this revival cost you 186 mesetas. Would you like to resurrect another?

No charge for resurrecting a thread that sees action again. :-)

People would probably have varying opinions about how a "perfect" women would be...

The version I recall from around '01, when this thread was started, was:

"about three feet tall, no teeth, and a flat head for balancing the pizza and beer"

why not?shave your head and stop wearing make up if you are gonna get all emotional about it :bawl:

Exactly!
You are the only one making you wear makeup and do you hair and all that other crap.
Some men do it too.

You make your own decisions on how to present yourself, how much time to spend on bullshit like that and how vain you want to be, then blame MEN for it?
Bullshit.
You're a big girl, grow up and take some responsibility for your own value system and ideals.

I personally don't like makeup on women at all.
I prefer low-maintenance, natural, real women.

As the Reverend said...

"Today's woman puts on wigs, fake eyelashes, false nails, sixteen pounds of make-up/shadows/blushes/creams, living bras, various pads that would make a linebacker envious, has implants and assorted other surgeries, then complains that she cannot find a 'real' man" - Maynard James Keenan

Exactly!

I personally don't like makeup on women at all.
I prefer low-maintenance, natural, real women.
As the Reverend said...

"Today's woman puts on wigs, fake eyelashes, false nails, sixteen pounds of make-up/shadows/blushes/creams, living bras, various pads that would make a linebacker envious, has implants and assorted other surgeries, then complains that she cannot find a 'real' man" - Maynard James Keenan

WOW! I couldn't have said it better myself. Well said..and quoted too!

...perfection?
there's no perfect men and women. There are "very interesting men and women". That's all.

WOW! I couldn't have said it better myself. Well said..and quoted too!
Well as the famous fife-dog said:

"You looked in the mirror, didn't know what to do
Yesterday your eyes were brown but today they are blue
Your whole appearance is a lie and it could never be true
And if you really loved yourself then you would try and be you
If your hair and eyes were real, I wouldn't have dissed ya
But since it was bought, I had to dismiss ya
If you can't achieve it, then why not try and weave it
If you can't extend it then you might as well suspend it
If you can't braid it, best thing to do is fade it
I asked who did your hair and you tell me "Diane made it"
If you were you and just you, talk to you, maybe
But I can't stand, no bionic lady
Tryin' hard to look fly, but yo, you're lookin' dumber
If I wanted someone like you I woulda swung with Jamie Summers"

*SIP*

Hmmm tastes like:

~Homme contre La Femme Spatlese~


It is thousands of years of gender wars captured in a blue and pink bottle. Peculiar buzz, like you were witness to a (he vs. her) spitball fight. The walls of your inner-being spackled with useless wet facts on masticated paper. Contains no alcohol. Often used in place of birth control pills.

"You looked in the mirror, didn't know what to do
Yesterday your eyes were brown but today they are blue
Your whole appearance is a lie and it could never be true
And if you really loved yourself then you would try and be you
If your hair and eyes were real, I wouldn't have dissed ya
But since it was bought, I had to dismiss ya
If you can't achieve it, then why not try and weave it
If you can't extend it then you might as well suspend it
If you can't braid it, best thing to do is fade it
I asked who did your hair and you tell me "Diane made it"
If you were you and just you, talk to you, maybe
But I can't stand, no bionic lady
Tryin' hard to look fly, but yo, you're lookin' dumber
If I wanted someone like you I woulda swung with Jamie Summers"

Damn!
Now it's stuck in my head and I gotta go out to my car and get the CD.

And tell me what's the reason for dyin your hair.
Slum village gold still danglin in your ear.
You barely have a neck, but still sportin a rope...
4-finger ring just so fifer can scope.

Hmm...

Well I hit the 20 post minimum.

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"Men got it made, they wake up, throw the hose, splash water on their faces, and they're out the door, not so easy for a Woman!
Men are such babies! (Boohoo!)"

women dont have to do anything more than a man does, they choose to because they care about what others think more than men, its not our fault women are shallow,

also its not our fault that men are so naturaly sexy, and women have to try hard. although my wife looks good when she wakes up.


women complain too much about shit, women are just jelous deep down that men dont have periods and push ut babies, and have to wear makeup to be socialy accpted as pretty,


men are the best, i can see why men become gay after what i just wrote,


peace.

peace.

because they care about what others think more than men, its not our fault women are shallow
Caring about what others think is shallow?

also its not our fault that men are so naturaly sexy, and women have to try hard
Really? I think if you take a mixed audience there'll be more agreement that women are sexier than men. Even straight women will comment on how sexy another woman looks - straight guys won't say that about another man.

and have to wear makeup to be socialy accpted as pretty
HAVE to wear make-up to be accepted as pretty? Full make-up was originally intended for men and refused for female use... what does that say about men?

i can see why men become gay after what i just wrote
I can see why people buy AKs and go on a rampage after what I just read...
:D

Caring about what others think is shallow?


Really? I think if you take a mixed audience there'll be more agreement that women are sexier than men. Even straight women will comment on how sexy another woman looks - straight guys won't say that about another man.


HAVE to wear make-up to be accepted as pretty? Full make-up was originally intended for men and refused for female use... what does that say about men?


I can see why people buy AKs and go on a rampage after what I just read...
:D


caring if random people think you are good looking. and if you cant leave the hosue without make-up or making sure you look good, yes thats shallow, i will walk out of my house in a wife beater big afro and bunny slippers and wont give a fuck,


and i would say men are better looking for 1 reason, we dont have to put on a fake face to walk out of the house, and we dont spend 1 hour getting ready,


yes what it was originaly intended and what is used in society today are 2 different things, 90% of women carry make-up on them at all times in there handbag along with a little mirror, men do not,


go buy an ak 47 and shoot up the block then, but it doesent help the debate much,


peace.

caring if random people think you are good looking. and if you cant leave the hosue without make-up or making sure you look good, yes thats shallow, i will walk out of my house in a wife beater big afro and bunny slippers and wont give a fuck,
Because men just don't care (in general) what they look like - no particular self-esteem...

and i would say men are better looking for 1 reason, we dont have to put on a fake face to walk out of the house, and we dont spend 1 hour getting ready,
Doesn't follow that they're better looking. There's damn few guys I'd consider worth a second look, and a very larger number of women, with or without makeup.

yes what it was originaly intended and what is used in society today are 2 different things, 90% of women carry make-up on them at all times in there handbag along with a little mirror, men do not
So basically women are just catching up to where men were a couple of hundred years ago...

go buy an ak 47 and shoot up the block then, but it doesent help the debate much,
Dead people don't debate :D

Caring about what others think is shallow?


Really? I think if you take a mixed audience there'll be more agreement that women are sexier than men. Even straight women will comment on how sexy another woman looks - straight guys won't say that about another man.


HAVE to wear make-up to be accepted as pretty? Full make-up was originally intended for men and refused for female use... what does that say about men?


I can see why people buy AKs and go on a rampage after what I just read...
:D

Because men just don't care (in general) what they look like - no particular self-esteem...


Doesn't follow that they're better looking. There's damn few guys I'd consider worth a second look, and a very larger number of women, with or without makeup.


So basically women are just catching up to where men were a couple of hundred years ago...


Dead people don't debate :D

yeah you dont think men are better looking because you compare what you see, and you see men in the natural form with no make-up and women in fake form with plenty of make up,

if all women didnt wear fake nails, fake hair, fake tan, fake faces (make-up) fake boobs etc and just had a shower hot dressed and walked out the door, i bet you would see a drastic decrease in super attractive women outside, and you would think maybe men are just as good looking or beter,

if women are so good looking why would they need to improve there looks? i can go out wearing a t shirt and jeans, spending 5 mins getting ready and know i look damn good, only about 10% of women can do that,


peace.

women are much more superficial than guys when it comes to looks, women are way to obsessive and this celebrity fake culture is so sad, all women these days are turning into shallow wanabes.

peace.

if all women didnt wear fake nails, fake hair, fake tan, fake faces (make-up) fake boobs etc and just had a shower hot dressed and walked out the door
Actually 90% of the women I hang out with don't bother with any of that stuff and STILL look good.
Some of them nearly as good as me.:eek:

yeah i know quite a few women who dont wear any of the above and look good, but im talking about the mainstream population of the western world.

look at a 3rd world country for a good example of my logic, take a poor village in say africa, do the women there look as good as the women in say london or new york? ofcourse not because of the make-up and fashion.

im not saying all women look bad ofcourse not!, but i am saying that women dont look as good as they appear in general due to the fakeness.

peace.

http://glamourmag.typepad.com/fashionbeauty__insider/images/bty060718.jpg



http://www.boreme.com/media/yr2003/i_britney_makeup.jpg



http://www.hereinreality.com/makeup/christinawo.jpg

no difference there looks the same to me.

peace.

Then the answer is obvious:
I hang out with naturally good-looking women... lucky me.

mine.

yes that makes you very lucky somehow. i sleep in the same bed as a naturaly beautiful woman. but that doesent mean that most women need make-up to look better, if they all look so good why do they need to put it on in the first place? because its a fun hobby?

anyway make-up is bad for your skin, and what about airbrushing in magazines it goes on so so much its stupid, the images you see of beautiful women are nearly always altered in some way,

most pictures of women on cd covers, newspaper adverts, magazines, book covers, its nearly always altered, and not natural,

http://katze-mit-wut.azundris.com/uploads/retouche03.jpg

i think she looks good in the first one, but for todays woman thats not good enough she mist always look better, see how shallow we are today?

peace.