I recently posted about wanted a DeadJournal code, which is a journal that is opposite LiveJournal.

I got some pretty ignorant remarks, and the worst was this:


It's where the depressed goth kids recite boring poetry and bitch at the world. Pay for your own fucking account or are you too depressed to get a job?


Now i wont name names, but first of all, Depressed is a common title given to goth peoples due to people like you. See how you speak of them, they dont want to talk to people like you... and there are a TON of people like you. This causes them to be distant and SEEM depressed. In fact, they are smart, and do not discriminate or insult others on the way that they act or feel.

Noone HAS to read their bitchy journals, and "boring" poetry is your own fucking opinion.

Pay for my own account? The fact that i was giving away a Gmail invite for a deadjournal invite is sort of like paying for it. So please dont bitch at me when you are having a bad day.

Thank everyone at this "Intelligent" community for listening to my "bitchy" post.

Who...me? :eek:

Well-put, caffeine_fubar.

I don't know why yer thread was sent to the Cesspool and locked. Is there something I don't get, like why that thread would have been closed? In any case, I don't get it.

What's a DeadJournal code? What's the website? What is DeadJournal?

That person who said that shit about goths don't get to know 'em. I know this one goth dude and he pretty cool.

Goth is too general a label. People say 'look at that goth over there' and they're not goths at all. People need to learn stuff about people and the various cultures around them. Not jump to conclusions and judge by stereotyping.

Well, a deadjournal is a journal site for people to keep their thoughts on the internet. Its like LiveJournal, but for people who like darker things.

http://deadjournal.com

http://livejournal.com

In fact, they [goths] are smart, and do not discriminate or insult others on the way that they act or feel.

Ha ha. Ha. Ha.

Ha.

Are you kidding? As with all social organizations constructed to protect the weak, you become elitist, intolerant pricks, defining the world in terms of your predators.

I know more than enough ignorant, discriminitory, asshole "goths" to completely invalidate your argument. I wouldn't correlate goth with tolerance, logos or care. Like all things teenage, I'd associate goth with pathos, intolerance and ignorance.

That's not to say that there aren't some totally hot goth chicks out there, but in general, goth's just another clique. Please stop pretending you're special.

In fact, they [goths] are smart, and do not discriminate or insult others on the way that they act or feel.
If you call-

talents in mimicking every last whino on the face of this planet, popping pills like a has-been, worshipping stones and rocks and demons without knowing why and shredding every last fiber of identity for the sake of membership in some drippiy club filled with posturing imbeciles as clueless as you are-

then by all means Goths, and their Emo counterparts, are the brightest humans on this planet.

Thank everyone at this "Intelligent" community for listening to my "bitchy" post
No problem.

Caffeine_fubar,

What?! Mine wasn't good enough?

Isn't deadjournal where pasty goths purge their darkened souls of the gloom and despair that haunts them eternally?

Losers.

But, hey, if you wanna be a whiney pussy then all power to you.


Anyway, I imagine that the thread was locked because the mod probably thought you were asking for something illicit rather than just an invite code.

I admit that it was me who posted that. It was a joke. I guess I forgot to put the ";)" at the end. I love the goths. I even semi act like one sometimes.

I apologize for the remark.

I've been in such a hurry lately that I have forgotten that people can hear the tone of my posts (I know, duh).

Remeber, smile :):)

So if you abdicate then that makes mine the worse?

Yay! I win.

heheheheh..... I think caffeine_fubar needs to refer to the bored white kids thread in Philosophy....

heheheheh..... I think caffeine_fubar needs to refer to the bored white kids thread in Philosophy....
Already been going there =D

Thanks for explaining =D

Good day, cya laterz

So if you abdicate then that makes mine the worse?

Yay! I win.
Yes, but you have no influence on anyone... hehe j/m

Thank everyone at this "Intelligent" community for listening to my "bitchy" post.

People are centered around the self, these days, thus they do whatever is needed to make their own opinions seem more "right."

Honestly though, why are you asking an intelligent (or at least semi-intelligent) forum for Deadjournal codes? Maybe you would have an easier time finding those codes elsewhere (the uberbored white kids forum). There are plenty of free blogging sites around. You can even adjust the backgrounds and all that to look black and depressing...

Oooh, goths are so funny, given, they do not know shit about good poetry, and they have this annoying habit of dripping blood on the floor after they released some pain by cutting their forearms, but apart from that they are pretty entertaining... especially those fancy goths who try to keep clean on festivals while everyone else is caked in mud. :D

Keep it on, the world needs goths.


...the blood is not that annoying if I think about it, kinda sexy...:p

Dreamwalker:
the blood is not that annoying if I think about it, kinda sexy
Even if its some pimply chubbette named Draco?
That's soooo hot.

...err, I did not think about that, thanks for reminding me, there was this fat chick that placed hereself besides me in university today, she had cut her forearms pretty bad...she wasn't sexy.

I'd like to take that comment back.

Lol. Sexy or not sexy, of course there is always more to invididuals, or groups of individuals for that matter, than what their label implies. Those who view a group of individuals and don't share their beliefs or ways of life tend to see them according to how they appear - whether it be by the implications of their label or whatever else. With goths for example, only goths themselves can truly understand one another. I think the fact that a group of people would submit themselves to wearing black clothes and a certain type of makeup and whatever else fits the stereotype, only has a tiny fraction to do with who they actually are. I definitely respect the people who make a deliberate effort to see someone for who they truly are (you know, delving a little deeper and discovering that alas, you probably aren't much different than they).

Yesemina:
Lol. Sexy or not sexy, of course there is always more to invididuals, or groups of individuals for that matter, than what their label implies. Those who view a group of individuals and don't share their beliefs or ways of life tend to see them according to how they appear
Uhm, no?

Stick a Goth or any of his little brothers behind a thick wall and have him recite his "beliefs".
You would not be able to tell one from the other, and the voice would share the same clueless, careless, "angsty" streak affected in all of them.
Its not just their appearance.

A quasi-Turing test for a million of these. Guranteed failure.

Stick a Goth or any of his little brothers behind a thick wall and have him recite his "beliefs". You would not be able to tell one from the other, and the voice would share the same clueless, careless, "angsty" streak affected in all of them.
Its not just their appearance.


I don't doubt that. What I'm saying is that the appearance of what kind of people they are will obviously vary from person to person. Like many people who do not understand "goths" will classify them as clueless, careless people with the tendency to be suicidal and dress in black. All I'm saying is that that generally is an appearance, and that there CAN BE more to a "goth" than the adjectives that their label implies.

Yesemina:
Like many people who do not understand "goths" will classify them as clueless, careless people with the tendency to be suicidal and dress in blac
Trust me, I know them very well.

I would not comment on an Afghan or Nepalese as I haven't had a sampling, but I would on a goth's nature as I would a negro's nature.
A golden streak runs through all of them.

*edit*
Love the irony.
This thread runs an ad for plastic fangs.

Yeah hehe. Well that is fine by me. The only reason I mentioned it is because I had a couple friends who were "goths" once, and in order to be friends with them, I of course had to go past looking at them as merely "goths" but actually considering them as people.

I of course had to go past looking at them as merely "goths" but actually considering them as people.

LoL

If they want to be considered as people dressing up like vampires is a pisspoor start. :)
BTW where are the black goths and the ones over 40?

All you goths stand up and shout "I don't wanna be one of the sheep!" :D

Be a goat instead.
Dee Cee

hehehehehehehe

Yesemina:

Trust me, I know them very well.

I would not comment on an Afghan or Nepalese as I haven't had a sampling, but I would on a goth's nature as I would a negro's nature.
A golden streak runs through all of them.


I don't know what a goth's nature is like, tell me.

Recently there was big news (actually it wasn't big so much as it was the kind of news you put on a cover to get people to buy the newspaper) in Vancouver recently because a couple (with a tumultuous relationship history according to friends) known to associate with the goth community disappeared and was found to have hung themselves. The newspaper spun the story in a way that focus on the goth culture, people who knew them seemed to express that there was problems with a bad breakup and then the pressure from one of them to get back together. Like most stories of this type they get a weeks worth of attention and then they disappear like they never existed.

So tell me about goths.

The only thing I've noticed about the goth community that I would percieve as negative is the whole,

"My pain is too deep for anyone to understand."

Without generalising about the entire goth community, that conclusion seems to be at the heart of their depression and exasperate their feeling of alienation. The goths who I've had heart-to-heart dialogues with seem to be depressed about all the same issues "mainstream" people of their age groups do, the difference is they focus on the depth and hopelessness of depression rather then finding a solution. The goths I know are generally intelligent and emotional people but they have a tendency to wallow in negative thoughts. However these are just goths I know.

This is just my analysis of the 2-3 goths I can call friends and my general observations of the group when I get invited to their parties or outings.

Curious:

Recently there was big news (actually it wasn't big so much as it was the kind of news you put on a cover to get people to buy the newspaper) in Vancouver recently because a couple (with a tumultuous relationship history according to friends) known to associate with the goth community disappeared and was found to have hung themselves. The newspaper spun the story in a way that focus on the goth culture, people who knew them seemed to express that there was problems with a bad breakup and then the pressure from one of them to get back together. Like most stories of this type they get a weeks worth of attention and then they disappear like they never existed.

The media tends to turn an otherwise harmless, albeit inane, 'culture' into something vile by the clever use of words such as Evil- you know, the kind of words that make gramma pee in her Hover-Round.

Example- Charles Manson, if you quit watching the newsreels and actually pay attention, is not an intimidating demon with hypnotic prowess.
He's an illiterate, mumbling hippie who's only power was that of convincing stupid children.
Lester Holt would call him Satan.
I call him a non-thing.

So tell me about goths.
They suck and have baby fingers.


The only thing I've noticed about the goth community that I would percieve as negative is the whole,

"My pain is too deep for anyone to understand."
I know, the pain!
Oh the weltschmertz in this dreary world where my allowance is cut in half for dying my hair black and playing with Wicca!

Or more seriously, as Nietzsche would put it, neediness is needed!
To make a tortured artist a tortured one.
See?

Without generalising about the entire goth community, that conclusion seems to be at the heart of their depression and exasperate their feeling of alienation. The goths who I've had heart-to-heart dialogues with seem to be depressed about all the same issues "mainstream" people of their age groups do, the difference is they focus on the depth and hopelessness of depression rather then finding a solution. The goths I know are generally intelligent and emotional people but they have a tendency to wallow in negative thoughts. However these are just goths I know.

You just did my 'homework'.

Thought this up between boredoms-

Recently there was big news (actually it wasn't big so much as it was the kind of news you put on a cover to get people to buy the newspaper) in Vancouver recently because a couple (with a tumultuous relationship history according to friends) known to associate with the goth community disappeared and was found to have hung themselves. The newspaper spun the story in a way that focus on the goth culture, people who knew them seemed to express that there was problems with a bad breakup and then the pressure from one of them to get back together. Like most stories of this type they get a weeks worth of attention and then they disappear like they never existed.

This is exactly what a 'goth' lives for.

The irony about goths is that they claim to act and dress the way that they do to be "different". They are dressing like everybody else like them does. There is ABSOLUTELY NO originality about that.

IlikeSalt:
The irony about goths is that they claim to act and dress the way that they do to be "different". They are dressing like everybody else like them does. There is ABSOLUTELY NO originality about that.
And there is absolutely no originality in us bitching about it either.

We're all common in this. But I'm better than you 'cause I rule. Ha.

There's an episode of South Park where all the goth kids are sitting around talking about how nonconformist they all are. Stan wants to enter a dance contest because he just "got served". Anyway, he needed a dance crew and none of the goths would join because it's too conformist. But, one of them decided to join to prove that he was more noncormist than all of them.

So nonconformist that he conformed.

How's that for a paradox?

Rebel by being a straight arrow. Isn't that the nature of the world today? Rebellion is so blase anymore. The true rebels rebel against rebellion.

Oh yes.

Gendanken,

Without generalising about the entire goth community, that conclusion seems to be at the heart of their depression and exasperate their feeling of alienation. The goths who I've had heart-to-heart dialogues with seem to be depressed about all the same issues "mainstream" people of their age groups do, the difference is they focus on the depth and hopelessness of depression rather then finding a solution. The goths I know are generally intelligent and emotional people but they have a tendency to wallow in negative thoughts. However these are just goths I know.

You just did my 'homework'.

Damnit. You beat me to it. I was going to say that that's pretty much the definition of a whiney pussy, isn't it?

Ahhh, so many personal viewpoints, biased rants and misconceptions for such a harmless topic.

Lets just say that theres goths, goths and goths, and another variety called goths.
I've sen some at uni, some who left university 10 years old, but are still goths, ones who have a life, a house, a car and some neat hobbies, but are goths, and also ones who are rather depressed and whiney, let alone the ones who become goths cos its cool to conform, and the ones who become goths due to liking the dark atmosphere and vampire stuff. Or black. Or purple. Or they find its the only way to rebel locally, because rebellion by yourself doesnt suit everyone. (yet even those who prate about being an individual seem not to see that they're only the billionth person to do that.)

Oh yes, and the dressing differently is about compared to "normal" society (though a lot of normal peopel i've met have odd and interesting things under the surface.), the point is at least that they have chosen what they want to conform to, have they not?

So, whatever rocks your boat.

Guthrie:
Ahhh, so many personal viewpoints, biased rants and misconceptions for such a harmless topic.


I'll tell you something I told a black member on this forum who loves to blame his inferiour qualities on environment:



I'll quote you something:

"Cultures are not erased by crossing a political border, or even an ocean, nor do they necessarily disappear in later generations which adopt the language, dress and outward lifestyle of the country."- Sowell

Isn't it odd to you that wherever a Jew goes, he is "stereotyped" the same way?
Or the German?
Or the Mexican?
Or the Pole?
Is this because all the nations these peoples find themselves in hold meetings and decide the same 'sterotype'?
Or is it this because of their nature?
Think bigger.

and

Why is that?
Culture? Oppression?
Behaviors have consequences, and when the same consequences are the same for the same groups in different settings- then it becomes an empirical fact, not a stereotype.

I used to just beat goths and throw fruit at them and whatever and never give them the slightest sniff of a chance to prove they were any less lame than they seemed. Which was incredibly lame beyond the extreme far reaches of lameness.
Same with nerds but I later found out nerds can be ok sometimes, whats strange is I went into an educational establishment crawling with goths after not interacting with goths for about 4 years and because I had since learned nerds can be ok I decided to have an open mind and give goths a chance thinking they too wouldn't be as bad as teen-me assumed.
Turns out teen-me was spot on, goths are incredibly lame from every angle, they aren't even good at being morbid, they're not even smart. I was quite shocked to be honest.

I think I've figured it out, goths are pure and simply the most boring mundane people, this is what inspires them to goth it up in the first place. They have absolutely nothing going for them, no gifts from mother nature whatsoever, no wit, no charm, no charisma, no defining style to their mannerisms. So they over compensate with a layer of what seems mysterious and interesting to them, its a sad transparent attempt to mask their painfully boring personas. Gothness is a readily apparent symptom of being a terminally boring person.
You can be that certain, the goth image goes into that much accurate detail about it's host and you won't find exceptions. Just like you won't find people missing limbs who aren't amputees, that's how precise gothic indications are. The image is a direct result of someone realising they are boring.

Looks like it's a bad day to be a goth :p

Go E-Bay your Bahaus collection, fire the bullet belt and pour the peroxide down the pan.

Now go and do something Funky!
Dee Cee

The very very best thing is....

Deep in the core of their being, all the goths browsing this thing know we simply don't 'understand' them:)

Dee Cee

How many Goths does it take to change a lightbulb?



















None. they like it better in the dark :D

Odd that no one found it funny this thread adverstised plastic fangs.


I think I've figured it out, goths are pure and simply the most boring mundane people, this is what inspires them to goth it up in the first place. They have absolutely nothing going for them, no gifts from mother nature whatsoever, no wit, no charm, no charisma, no defining style to their mannerisms. So they over compensate with a layer of what seems mysterious and interesting to them, its a sad transparent attempt to mask their painfully boring personas. Gothness is a readily apparent symptom of being a terminally boring person.
How is this different than someone like Steve Irwin or Steve Austin or Sigfried and Roy?
Or you?

WTF is going on in here?

I think Dr. Lou Natic has a very good point there. One of the worst forms of torture is boredom.

WTF is going on in here?

Read the thread. It's interesting how discussions can twist around...

Hey Gendy, looks like we're going to have to disagree here, since we cant come up with a common definition of Goths and goths behaviour. Which is kind of my point here.

Odd that no one found it funny this thread adverstised plastic fangs.
I thought it was funny, just didn't feel the need to tell you that you noticed something funny.

How is this different than someone like Steve Irwin or Steve Austin or Sigfried and Roy?
Or you?
Steve Irwin is a real nutcase, he's caught on that people think its funny so he plays it up now but I can assure you his behaviour is real and he truely is that enthusastic and that's how he naturally shows it. I'm australian and have seen him come from nothing, he used to try to impersonate the prestigious narrator type but then when he'd grab a wild snake he'd get way too excited and unable to control himself and he'd start acting as he does now all the time. Thats the real freak he is and he's just recently learned to embrace it.
Seigfried and roy are similarly real life fruitcakes. They aren't trying to be strange creepy wierdos they're trying to be magicians and they just happened to be wierd enough to become famous, they wouldn't understand why.
Steve Austin is an actor/athlete, he has a character he plays on television for money.
But he sits at home sipping coffee with his british wife on sunday mornings and I'm quite insulted on his behalf that you would compare the great rattlesnake to a fucking goth.
I'm not like a goth because I dress like an encyclopedia salesmen and struggle terribly to be normal and mask the fact that I'm a psychopath.
So I'm the antithesis of a goth really.
Goths play dress ups and pretend to be people like me.
I play dress ups and pretend to be what they really are. The difference is there is a serious need for me to put on a mask and I fool people and they don't.

Someone could pull off exhibitting their eccentricities if their image was original. That would be the prerequisite I would think.
Other people who fit into groups which can be determined by how they look and act can't be judged as harshly as goths because the goth image at the core is an attempt to seem different. It fails to see the huge irony in that.
The people who are drawn to the goth crowd rather than the preps or jocks or nerds or whatever the groups are these days are usually nerds or geeks who can't accept being a nerd or geek because their personality simply doesn't have what it takes to pull off fawn slacks and a checkered button up shirt.
Goths are always the least interesting people, I'm not saying other people are interesting, just that out of the groups and types of people the goth is the one which attracts those extremely insecure over their lack of originality.
Other groups may attract people insecure about other things. But being an extremely boring person is the trademark of the goth.

Espadsam:
WTF is going on in here?
Victorian orgies.

Dr. Lou:
I thought it was funny, just didn't feel the need to tell you that you noticed something funny.

Fuck you.

Steve Irwin is a real nutcase, he's caught on that people think its funny so he plays it up now but I can assure you his behaviour is real and he truely is that enthusastic and that's how he naturally shows it. I'm australian and have seen him come from nothing, he used to try to impersonate the prestigious narrator type but then when he'd grab a wild snake he'd get way too excited and unable to control himself and he'd start acting as he does now all the time. Thats the real freak he is and he's just recently learned to embrace it.
In other words a showy sellout?

The way this man pops his eyes out when he says "Croicky', with his hands out in sheer terror when confronting a dangerous earthworm is really no different than middle-classed Tyler in pharmacy makeup "scaring" the neighbors.

Steve Irwin may be giddy around animals, but capitalizing on its effect is what I am getting at.

Seigfried and roy are similarly real life fruitcakes. They aren't trying to be strange creepy wierdos they're trying to be magicians and they just happened to be wierd enough to become famous, they wouldn't understand why.
They may be real life "fruitcakes", but about as interesting as cheese without the gimmick.

Every last gay in this world is not interesting until he becomes a drama queen- hence the parodies.
Just as every last, boring asshole is not interesting until he finds himself a niche that others find interesting.

Like pissy angst about animals.

I'm not like a goth because I dress like an encyclopedia salesmen and struggle terribly to be normal and mask the fact that I'm a psychopath.
So I'm the antithesis of a goth really.
Goths play dress ups and pretend to be people like me.
I play dress ups and pretend to be what they really are. The difference is there is a serious need for me to put on a mask and I fool people and they don't.

I see what you are saying, but a psychopath would not cringe at bashing a baby against a wall to spill its fucking brains out.

You hate people, but stop at babies.
Why?
Innocence?



Goths are always the least interesting people, I'm not saying other people are interesting, just that out of the groups and types of people the goth is the one which attracts those extremely insecure over their lack of originality.
Other groups may attract people insecure about other things. But being an extremely boring person is the trademark of the goth.
Any group, jock or no, is an amalgam of blatant insecurity.
I don't care who you are or what, standing behind some flag or slogan or some ism likes its housewife.

From the Nazi to the Democrat- no longer men, but mouthpieces.

I see what you are saying, but a psychopath would not cringe at bashing a baby against a wall to spill its fucking brains out.

You hate people, but stop at babies.
Why?
Innocence?
I don't hate babies because there's nothing to hate. Passionate angry murder is for people who can truely taste it.
That said I'm all for the calm methodical disposal of babies. It shouldn't inspire any emotions at all.
Killing a rival should be satisfying and thrilling, the killing of an animal should be respectfull and sollem(sp?), but killing a baby should be like removing garbage from your house.
You should just do it, or actually you should probably just leave them to die or throw them out of the way, unless you're hungry.
A little part of me would enjoy killing a baby, I'm just ashamed of that because I'm guilty of whats wrong with the people who derive satisfaction from killing animals. The enjoyment would be the "how do you like that cunts?" factor aimed at the society who deems babies so precious, which is unfair (in principle) to the stupid baby who doesn't deem anything as precious and hasn't yet developed stupid ideals.
I just can't be angry with it, but I could pretend to be without cringing, how about I knock you up and then kick you in the guts?
I'm that willing to prove myself.

I may have said killing an animal is akin to killing a baby before, simply because I know baby killing is generally frowned upon.
It's usually frowned upon more so than adult killing because babies are innocent, animal killing is usually seen as ok because animals are dumb. But animals are more innocent than children and babies are stupider than animals, so it makes no sense.
The common ethical scale of whats worst to kill makes no logical sense whatsoever.
And I may have tried to appeal to the baby lover in people here to explain why killing an animal is at least as bad even by their own standards.

By my standard killing anything is fine, as long as its for the right reasons and the act is played out in accordance with how it should be played out. Whats in the killers head plays a big role in how I judge them for killing.
And on this I'm admittedly more lenient with the human killers than the animal killers.
Babies certainly don't rank close to animals in my emotions, but logically I have to think angrily killing babies is worse than killing adults, or I'd be a hypocrite.
In principle I'm appauled with the person who splattered the baby up the wall, but i'd probably chuckle all the same.
I wouldn't interupt my dog if he caught a baby or anything. I'm not here to judge his intentions, I wouldn't be able.

I'm not really a psychopath, but would be deemed one if I was me in public.

Just as every last, boring asshole is not interesting until he finds himself a niche that others find interesting.

Like pissy angst about animals.
Well being the antithesis of a goth means that in the alternate universe known as the internet my brain is as radical as their fangs and dog collars.
The thing is in the real world their brains are as boring as my clothes.
You probably think I attach my viewpoints in the same way they attach their fangs, which is understandable, I can't really fight that in this medium, but even if I did it still demands so much more talent than being a goth. As does being steve austin.
I'd at least have to be the cyber-equivalent of bjork wearing a swan, rather than a goth. The sci-goths would be like, oh I don't know, you, fenris, invert, rosa, etc etc clickety click click.
The "alternative", "different", "in your face-deal with it", gang of clones.
Ok, maybe you're the original goth and the best at being a goth, still, I wore a rad swan dress, don't see anyone doing that do you?

Any group, jock or no, is an amalgam of blatant insecurity.
I don't care who you are or what, standing behind some flag or slogan or some ism likes its housewife.

From the Nazi to the Democrat- no longer men, but mouthpieces.
This I agree with.

Actually, i have more to say about that last bit I quoted but I'm sick of typing. I will come back.

“
I thought it was funny, just didn't feel the need to tell you that you noticed something funny.

”

Fuck you.

Now that was pretty funny.

Doctor, what's your profession?

Yeah that was funny.

Why do you want to know my profession? I'm not really a doctor if that's why you ask.

No, I mean, I hope they're paying you what you're worth.

Well, technically I get paid more than what my work is worth to the company I work for.
I do pretty mindless shit for a publishing company (responsible for **** and the **** series, as well as the majority of school text books).
I get paid ok, for a highschool dropout.

But I don't get paid in accordance with my worth as a human being. Which is obviously how the world should operate.
Gendanken is so terrible she would need to pay the government every fortnight rather than recieve money off them, and the government would use that money to pay me for being awesome. I in turn would pay gendanken to wipe my ass. So she'd be working her nuckles to the bone wiping my ass(and regularly bringing me off too I just decided) in order to make the money she's required by law to throw into the "me fund".
What a wonderful world that would be.

Dr. Lou:
But I don't get paid in accordance with my worth as a human being. Which is obviously how the world should operate.
Gendanken is so terrible she would need to pay the government every fortnight rather than recieve money off them, and the government would use that money to pay me for being awesome. I in turn would pay gendanken to wipe my ass. So she'd be working her nuckles to the bone wiping my ass(and regularly bringing me off too I just decided) in order to make the money she's required by law to throw into the "me fund".
What a wonderful world that would be.
A-ha.

Your publishing company would be massaging my ass just to write for them, amazing little writer that I am.
Imagine the millions you'd be making if I let you tell them that you discovered me.

I don't hate babies because there's nothing to hate. Passionate angry murder is for people who can truely taste it.

A little part of me would enjoy killing a baby, I'm just ashamed of that because I'm guilty of whats wrong with the people who derive satisfaction from killing animals. The enjoyment would be the "how do you like that cunts?" factor aimed at the society who deems babies so precious, which is unfair (in principle) to the stupid baby who doesn't deem anything as precious and hasn't yet developed stupid ideals.

But a psychopath sees a baby as nothing- he’d break its neck without analyzing the unfairness of this non-thing unable to appreciate its circumstances.
When is the last time you ever thought of the egg-shells in the trash while you dumped garbage outside?

You’re rationalizing here, Mr. Lou- face it. You hate people on the principle of knowing how vile you are and how vile those around you have been., the same reasons that Jews hate Man and life in general.
There is nothing wrong in you hating them- I also hate, but not because of this, for one, and I never lose sight of mankind, for two.
There is a pain in the world you seem ignorant of.
But you aren’t really, are you?
You softy for innocence, you!
Psychopath, my bunions.
Admit it.

I just can't be angry with it, but I could pretend to be without cringing, how about I knock you up and then kick you in the guts?
I'm that willing to prove myself.
A psychopath does not need anything.
A psychopath simply is.

You could impregnate me all you want, but you do know a penis is required, yes?
You’d get lost somewhere between foreplay and figuring out where my hole is.
And you’d never kick a pregnant woman, even if it was me.

By my standard killing anything is fine, as long as its for the right reasons and the act is played out in accordance with how it should be played out. Whats in the killers head plays a big role in how I judge them for killing.
And on this I'm admittedly more lenient with the human killers than the animal killers.
Babies certainly don't rank close to animals in my emotions, but logically I have to think angrily killing babies is worse than killing adults, or I'd be a hypocrite.

Exactly.

Maybe now you see. Encore:

"You not only brag about twisting people’s arms around or stabbing them with pens but do you not realize the amusement of you only being an extra on "Jackass"? You'd barely flinch having crushed a stranger's skull in with a hammer, but cringe at brutality towards babies? Why, innocence? You wannabe.
Your program is simple- its a common dressing up of misanthropy as mercy towards animals, and you'd probably hate animals as well if they could actually talk and tell you what a pampered, bored little dipshit you are. Like Schopenhauer sans finesse."- gendanken

Remember?

All you have to admit is that you are no psychopath. The way these Goths would have to admit the same thing.

I'm not really a psychopath, but would be deemed one if I was me in public.
Guano.

Well being the antithesis of a goth means that in the alternate universe known as the internet my brain is as radical as their fangs and dog collars.
The thing is in the real world their brains are as boring as my clothes.
You probably think I attach my viewpoints in the same way they attach their fangs, which is understandable, I can't really fight that in this medium, but even if I did it still demands so much more talent than being a goth. As does being steve austin.

Not really.
All three require simple repetition.

And I don't doubt you love animals more than you do people, I just feel you exaggerate it for effect.
But we do agree that a Goth is about as boring as all goth chicks are after you've fucked one.

I'd at least have to be the cyber-equivalent of bjork wearing a swan, rather than a goth. The sci-goths would be like, oh I don't know, you, fenris, invert, rosa, etc etc clickety click click.
The "alternative", "different", "in your face-deal with it", gang of clones.
Ok, maybe you're the original goth and the best at being a goth, still, I wore a rad swan dress, don't see anyone doing that do you?

HA!
Rosamagika and Invert would be drive you insane with niceness.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Roman:
No, I mean, I hope they're paying you what you're worth.
*grin*

Now, aren't you the same imbecile not into 'rimming'?
Brownnosers in denial are more interesting than brownnosers.

Funny that you mention interesting. Doctor is interesting. Doctor says interesting things.
You, however, say very little of worth.

Becuase he is likeable and not intimidating and his thinking skills equal yours!

Yey for pity and friends and people we'd take with us to football games!
Now, pat him on the ass and call him 'bro'.

*EDIT*

Nice try, Roman, you beautiful retard.
Deleting posts won't help any.

But a psychopath sees ..... But you aren’t really, are you?
You softy for innocence, you!
Psychopath, my bunions.
Admit it.
You twisted my rubber arm- I'm more than a psychopath.
Psychopaths are merely incapable of sympathy due to something wrong with their brain.
The fact I can cry while watching a documentary about a family of elephants who need to walk for 3 days to reach water, automatically means I'm not a psychopath.
But children do appear delicious to me, I love stomping on peoples faces, I desperately want to hunt human beings with my dogs, and I'm constantly struggling to fein haveing the normal human standards of morality and decency.

Goths would kill (if they could stomach it) to be me. Psychopath or no I naturally was born as something that doesn't fit with society and that's right up their alley.
They romanticise the horror genre and read up on serial killers, but it's all fantasy, I have seen them react as normal humans in real situations. I don't, I struggle to. I need to pretend to be outraged or mortified. I'm always finding myself saying things like "oh, they burned all the kids with a blow torch? wow, how about that, pretty sick" in this high phoney tone.
A goth would pretend to be unaffected while crying on the inside. They'd say "cool" with a tremor in their voice. I've litterally seen them do that.
I've seen goths get mortified, I've seen them trembling and looking green around the gills at parties after just witnessing a horrific beating, one which I loved every second of.
The physical hunk of meat and bone I am naturally is thrilled by violence and human sufferring.
Its not something someone can fake. They can try but it shines through, just as I can't fake being mortified by violence. And just as I've noticed people fake careing about animals. It's unmistakable that cruelty to animals legitimately bothers me in real life. And for the perceptive it's similarly obvious that human sufferring doesn't bother me, even though I need to pretend it does all the time.
I wish that part of me wasn't so obvious. It can be really awkward.
Sure I could fake it here at sciforums. Like I said I can't argue against that.
But I wouldn't, I can't even fake not careing about animals because it bothers me so much. I couldn't "joke" about cruelty to animals for money and I believe people who do secretly feel contempt for animals.
But maybe I'm full of shit and just want cyber-attention.

"You not only brag about twisting people’s arms around
This bothers me because you bait me into "bragging".
I admit it's lame and slightly amusing that I'm trying so hard to convince you that I'm a psychopath, I can see that. But you are makeing me do it.
Maybe a "real" psychopath wouldn't take the bait?
Fine I'm not a psychopath. But I would not feel bad about kicking your pregnant abdomen and feasting upon the bruised undeveloped infant that fell out of your cavernous vulva.
I can honestly say no part of me would feel an injustice had been done to you or your baby if that happened, I would not seriously believe I was a bad person for doing that.
The logical side of me would deem it unnecessarry, and perhaps unnatural and by extension technically unethical in accordance with my beliefs. But me personally, the emotions side would not care.
I can't say eating a raw squirming baby wouldn't gross me out, it might. But that's not the same as careing about it or you.

I think man is supposed to be alot more violent than he is, I think the correct human is a combative animal, but that doesn't necessarrily mean I believe I am the correct human. I think without law I would have done things which naturally would have inspired other people to murder me. Probably publically with fire.
When i discuss my ethical code it doesn't necessarrily mean it's how I feel about things. I recognise that I'm the product of dysgenics and an unnatural upbringing, my views and behaviours are skewed by numerous factors and thus wrong.
It's unethical to eat babies, it's not how humans are supposed to behave and it should stir emotions in them to bite into the flesh of a wriggling fetus.
I shouldn't want to eat babies. I'm wrong.
But no wronger than someone who wants to feed starving stranger babies in africa. Wrong is wrong.

Guano.
Ofcourse I would, I think many people would. I know many people who definately would have killed someone and felt no remorse had it not been for their fear of the law. Such a person, that can kill without remorse is deemed a psychopath by society.
Only pathetic shells of men would be incapable of killing without remorse in reality. Homo-sapiens should be able to do it and are incompetent inadequate specimens if they can't. But there are enough of these incompetent specimens, and has been enough influential ones in history, for society at large to share that unnatural stance.
I need to pretend to be that style of genetic fuck up rather than the style of genetic fuck up I really am in order to fit into this society which is based on the ideals of a genetic fuck up named jesus christ.

Psychopathic and normal isn't black and white. I'd certainly pass as a form of psychopath.
But really there is no such thing. Why don't we call dogs who kill without remorse psychopaths? Some don't like killing, some do, some like it more than others and some are obsessed with it.
We know that this is just exactly as it sounds and trying to divide them into psychopaths and non psychopaths would be ridiculous.
Humans really do know dogs better than themselves, I'm convinced of that.

And I don't doubt you love animals more than you do people, I just feel you exaggerate it for effect.
Honestly, It's not even like I love animals that much more than humans. I'm just closer to unbiased than people like. If a male elephant kicked a pregnant female elephant in the guts and began eating her fetus it really wouldn't bother me.
I would feel as though that was their business and the female would understand the assault better than I do, and I don't know, it would be very much like if I saw a man do it to a woman. I'd probably laugh a little at the human interaction simply because it was "in my language" so to speak, and yes there is a little contempt for human kind present, but it's not that extreme. Certainly not as extreme as the level of contempt the common man has for the animal kingdom.
If a little asian tied a female elephant up and kicked her in the stomach and ate her baby, that would really infuriate me.
However, if a male elephant kicked a pregnant human in the guts and ate her baby I would be rolling on the ground with laughter and clapping and cheering.
Ha, that would be so awesome.
I'm not sure why.

HA!
Rosamagika and Invert would be drive you insane with niceness.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah I just wanted to hurt your feelings.
Stings doesn't it?
I told you I was cold bitch, don't ever doubt me again.

Would you beat off to KKK Iraqi fetus gobbing during a castration orgy?
Cause that would be wicked hot.
But Doc, I don't think anyone believes your hyperbole.

Gendanken:

Nice try, Roman, you beautiful retard.
Deleting posts won't help any.

I deleted that immediately after I posted it, simply because it wasn't true and I didn't believe it. My apologies.

Dr. Lou:
But I wouldn't, I can't even fake not careing about animals because it bothers me so much. I couldn't "joke" about cruelty to animals for money and I believe people who do secretly feel contempt for animals.
But maybe I'm full of shit and just want cyber-attention.

Ta!

He said it.
Good.

Ghengis Khan was born with a clot of blood in his fist- is this you?
No.
You were likely born in a nice little hospital with pretty nurses petting your vagina.
Jokes aside- I too believe in this:
I think man is supposed to be alot more violent than he is, I think the correct human is a combative animal, but that doesn't necessarrily mean I believe I am the correct human. I think without law I would have done things which naturally would have inspired other people to murder me. Probably publically with fire

In your childish language, you're pointing out the turning of a powerful war chief- the chief of a mighty people- into the docile, loving father of the Jew.

The jew-like mind, that could not conquer with the body as it was weak and filled with envy, instead re-invented a whole ethic where men were conquered with shame and guilt for what men naturally are.

The same thing a woman does to a man, pointing out her fragile nature to make him feel clumsy and wrong for hitting her smart, pathetic mouth.

There is a campaign where men are forced into equality and each and every one of us are broken with the lie of 'human rights'- now, you can't rightly stab a tramp in the heart for breaking through your car window- no! there is a law to answer to, shame to atone for, and doctors to see because you don't feel remorse or even wrong in killing a man who's worth nothing.

Or kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach.

Maybe a "real" psychopath wouldn't take the bait?

That's right.

And know something?
All that 'psychopath' speak is gone if someone you cared for (and by care I don’t mean the I-love-her-so-much- I-could-piss-and-die gimmick)- I mean the kind of caring where the person in question is one you feel in the blood, as in a lover you'd hurt for the mutual pleasure, the only one in this world that would lick their lips seeing you rip another human apart, physically or psychologically- that whole psychopath record you keep playing around here is shit as soon as you find that person is dying.

All that innocence that inspires that rage in you when you see it brutalized is only shown to you in animals, for now.
But this person will be innocent- and you, like some just like you, will finally know what it feels like to cry for another.

Stings doesn't it?

Nope.
And fuck you.


Roman:
I deleted that immediately after I posted it, simply because it wasn't true and I didn't believe it. My apologies.
Have you asked him to your prom yet?

Ta!

He said it.
Good.
I said it because it's obviously ridiculous.
If I wanted cyber attention I would go about obtaining it in a much more effective manner.
Say, pretending to be a girl and starting threads about why I'm against panties.
There's nothing attractive about ranting for animal rights or indicating to people that you would have no problem watching them die a slow horrible death.
My grasps for cyber attention are the breaks I have from wailing on about cruelty to animals and how much people suck. I know I'm not going to make any fans with my emotional anti-social anti-man beliefs.
But every few weeks I just get sucked into it again and invariably end up dropping the cyber-public opinion of me. The very reason I don't visciously go on about how repulsive man is in real public is because I know it would be social suicide. No one wants to be around such a depressing maniac.
So why would my attempts to get cyber attention be exactly what I've established to be particularly unpopular unattractive behaviour?
I only do it here because I feel strongly about it and can't say it in the real world where people's opinions of me matter.

You evidently think I'm cool to the very core, because the shamefull side of me I would never reveal to anyone who mattered, what I'm essentially writing into my secret diary, the least cool side of me, the part of me that requires hiding away from the real world specifically due to it being so incredibly uncool, makes you think I'm trying to be cool.
You've obviously never interacted with anything close to a moderately charismatic person. You're blown away by the worst I have to offer.
You'd be an easy lay.

You were likely born in a nice little hospital with pretty nurses petting your vagina.
Thats hot.

In your childish language, you're pointing out the turning of a powerful war chief- the chief of a mighty people- into the docile, loving father of the Jew.
No, this thread; http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=41870 was my childish way of pointing that out.

What I was saying here was that the person I am is further away from the modern socially acceptable man than even the traditional standard for the ideal human being. Which itself, is far away from the kind of man which is socially acceptable today. The correct example of a homo sapien would be deemed a murderous psychopath by todays standards, the ideal man today is technically a weak incompetent soft subordinant snake who would be balancing on borrowed time in the real world. He would have no chance of outcompeting a real man, but ironically real men today are forced to mimic something that is inferior to themselves. "Jew" would actually be the best way to describe this organism they need to pretend to be. I need to "play jew" too, but thats not to say I'm the correct kind of man. I'm just a deviation from the standard which happened to go in a different direction than the jew did.

There is a campaign where men are forced into equality and each and every one of us are broken with the lie of 'human rights'- now, you can't rightly stab a tramp in the heart for breaking through your car window- no! there is a law to answer to, shame to atone for, and doctors to see because you don't feel remorse or even wrong in killing a man who's worth nothing.
I agree with all this. I just have to wonder, if you think it's normal human behaviour to stab tramps in the heart, why are you so sure I would be incapable of doing it?
It's inaccurate to suggest most people are jews at their essence, most people are forced to be jews, but would not behave as such without jew law looming over their heads.
Many will admit to this outright, and many have been effectively brainwashed into thinking killing truely is wrong, but if they acknowledged and understood how they were brainwashed they would probably change their tune. Only a certain kind of defect truthseeker style homo-sapien is truely uncomfortable with- and incapable of- murder.
You seem to be suffering from jew influence yourself in deeming murder such an outrageous thing that requires a rare form of crazy to accomplish.
The people that murder now either have no control of their temper whatsoever or are so obsessed with the pleasure they derive from murder that they can't hold back their urges despite the risk.
I don't believe I fit into the second category(definately not the first), but I am closer to that second category than I am to the jew and closer to that second category than the ideal specimen of a homo-sapien should be. Even though the ideal specimen of a homo-sapien should be comfortable with and capable of murder.

All that 'psychopath' speak is gone if someone you cared for (and by care I don’t mean the I-love-her-so-much- I-could-piss-and-die gimmick)- I mean the kind of caring where the person in question is one you feel in the blood, as in a lover you'd hurt for the mutual pleasure, the only one in this world that would lick their lips seeing you rip another human apart, physically or psychologically- that whole psychopath record you keep playing around here is shit as soon as you find that person is dying.

All that innocence that inspires that rage in you when you see it brutalized is only shown to you in animals, for now.
But this person will be innocent- and you, like some just like you, will finally know what it feels like to cry for another.
This is all very gay, and I think less of you for it.
If I cried over a sex partners death it would merely be out of self pity for losing a quality toy which I enjoyed dearly. I could never feel as strongly about a female as you have indicated you do about males.
You've revealed alot about yourself actually, the unnatural fixation you can develop for a mate is due to your lack of a powerful secure tribe. You're a terribly frightened animal and haveing a man fuck you and spend time around you gives you that sense of security and this is the reason you can fall so "in love" with solitary men. All your social instincts become compressed onto one person who offers the closest semblance to a clan you can find.
To you losing a lover is akin to me losing my entire family unit and being left alone on the grass with the wolves howls piercing my trembling ears.
Your mindset is common with pathetic teenage girls who have terrible parents and no family connections. Do you slit your wrists just so your boyfriend can see the wounds?
I never saw this in you untill now- the focussed obsession you devote to sexual partners.
It's quite romantic in literature, but sad and depressing in real life.
You're like a bear cub following the hunters who just killed its mother back to their truck.
Ironically you might teach me how to cry for another here. I'm truely saddened by your plight.

Nope.
And fuck you.
This also says alot about you. See to me that would have been an enormous insult.
You say "nope", as though you are almost pleased to be compared to rosa and invert.
Again, I am deeply saddened by your plight.

"The correct example of a homo sapien would be deemed a murderous psychopath by todays standards"

Hahaha. Correct in what way? You are the sole arbiter of evolution, truth and teh "natural" way of life? You know that everyone is actually like yourself and desires the same kind of life?

People? Why are you so ignorant?
TADA! This is Sciforums. :D

Ever seen a midget in a boxing ring?
*grin*

Dr. Lou Natic:
But every few weeks I just get sucked into it again and invariably end up dropping the cyber-public opinion of me. The very reason I don't visciously go on about how repulsive man is in real public is because I know it would be social suicide. No one wants to be around such a depressing maniac.

Such a "maniac" would not have spent the time and effort it takes to log on to a computer, type in a forum address, his handle, his password and then sift through the threads for this one and give poor little Gendanken the tribute of
(quick word count) 2, 220 plus words.

See?
The "depressed maniacs" swarm online, and there is you in the middle with these "depressed maniacs", like Roman, drunk off your 'cruelty' to poor little Gendanken.
Quit trying to make this a real-life vs. virtual-life dispute.
A psychopath is as careless for the real as the unreal.
Is this you.......?

Answer:
I only do it here because I feel strongly about it and can't say it in the real world where people's opinions of me matter.

Ha-ha.

You and that little tie of yours looking like a choirboy- think a little bar room fighting and indifference to human adults brings you any closer to the “ ideal” homo sapiens than the Jew?
Far from it- even your language betrays you. ("Ideal")
All you are is Johny Knoxville in LL Bean and Land’s End.
On a skateboard.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
You evidently think I'm cool to the very core, because the shamefull side of me I would never reveal to anyone who mattered, what I'm essentially writing into my secret diary, the least cool side of me, the part of me that requires hiding away from the real world specifically due to it being so incredibly uncool, makes you think I'm trying to be cool.

If "cool" defines the attitude she has for midgets.....
You'd be an easy lay.

Leave her alone!

What I was saying here was that the person I am is further away from the modern socially acceptable man than even the traditional standard for the ideal human being. Which itself, is far away from the kind of man which is socially acceptable today. The correct example of a homo sapien would be deemed a murderous psychopath by todays standards, the ideal man today is technically a weak incompetent soft subordinant snake who would be balancing on borrowed time in the real world. He would have no chance of outcompeting a real man, but ironically real men today are forced to mimic something that is inferior to themselves. "Jew" would actually be the best way to describe this organism they need to pretend to be. I need to "play jew" too, but thats not to say I'm the correct kind of man. I'm just a deviation from the standard which happened to go in a different direction than the jew did.

Its odd to find you quoting 'evil' in that thread, but not correct in this one.

I agree with all this. I just have to wonder, if you think it's normal human behaviour to stab tramps in the heart, why are you so sure I would be incapable of doing it?

Because you're tied down by the same things allllll these commoners are- consequence.
Gyges was just as cowardly- he could only kill a king and seduce his wife with a ring that made him invisible.
Men are bound by a state of mutual distrust in a fear of being punished for betraying it.

Dahmer only flinched when he was found- go, look him up. You'll find home videos of him where he looks like a spoonfed prep, he's perfectly 'normal' and no one could tell that this man had just eaten a boiled penis and had corpses boxed up at home.
What makes you and him so average? Fear.

In Crime and Punishment, the ordinary man is separated from the extraordinary one:

"In spite of their predisposition to obedience very many of them (the ordinary or average), through a playfulness of nature, something vouchsafed even to a cow, like to imagine themselves advanced people, 'destroyers’, and push this into movement.
Meanwhile the really new people are very often unobserved by the them, or even despised as reactionaries. But I don't think there is any considerable danger here, and you really need not not worry, for they (the ordinary) never go very far."- Dostoevsky

Guess which one you are?

don't believe I fit into the second category(definately not the first), but I am closer to that second category than I am to the jew and closer to that second category than the ideal specimen of a homo-sapien should be. Even though the ideal specimen of a homo-sapien should be comfortable with and capable of murder.

Do I think you'd feel any remorse in the killing?
No.
Pity, guilt or shame?
No.

The point, dear boy, is that to a psychopath everything (including murder) registers like eating.
You've made an art of it, you fucking wannabe.
You seem to be suffering from jew influence yourself in deeming murder such an outrageous thing that requires a rare form of crazy to accomplish
Who's the Bateman toady? You or Gendanken?
Who's been shrieking "I'm a psychopath, yes I am, yes I am, okay maybe not a psychopath, per se (damn that Gendanken) but a goth would love to be me in the real life!!"

Your mindset is common with pathetic teenage girls who have terrible parents and no family connections. Do you slit your wrists just so your boyfriend can see the wounds?

Leave her alone or you’re a dead man!!

Useing your lame mephura character doesn't add weight to your argument.
If anything it hurts it. You're not going to get me thinking "hmm a second opinion agrees, I guess gendanken is right".

Something must have stung you deep in the vag for you to pretend to have a penis.

You'd make a really gay dude by the way, one I would hurt badly.

Dr. Lou:

Useing your lame mephura character doesn't add weight to your argument.
If anything it hurts it. You're not going to get me thinking "hmm a second opinion agrees, I guess gendanken is right".


You don't see the big picture.
You called me out as a needy girl that's nothing without men and you reminded me of the same idiot who said this to me once:

Try an experiment, use a different more male alias and post regularly and without your regular style.
See what kind of responses you get from the same people that now struggle for your inner chambers

..so what better way than to mock you than by replying as a man?
And what better man than Mephura.
I did this with you.
With wanderer.
And fountainhed.

The only one who still can't connect the dots is fountainhed, which only proves the inferiority of the negro mind.
However, you can't say you were never duped-

"It's so embarrassing when some fuckbag nobody makes an obvious conscious decision to "not be mr nice guy anymore" and goes on a big, ineffectual rampage." - Lola.

See the fun?
Little clue- if I don't post to you as Gendanken, you're being mocked.
Something must have stung you deep in the vag for you to pretend to have a penis.
No.
When you psychoanalyze a woman using the kind of mind (blacks chicks) you've fucked as a template, you only look- uh-oh- silly.

Maybe next time I'll take your analysis seriously and quote by quote prove to you my not being a needy little girl- you know, kind of like how you did trying to prove your being closer to the "ideal" homo sapiens than others.
A quasi psychopath.
In love with pandas.
My.

So.
My points stand.
Rather than a Hun, you’re simply stuck in a juvenile mind of indifference- which is common.

As common as headlice and as common as scratching them.
What is not common is the sociopath who resembles more the autistic child than he does the posturing kiddies who log on to forums to talk about how close to the "ideal" homo sapiens they are.
These are the same kiddies we see on “Jackass”.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

You're really stuck on proving I'm not a psychopath, which I've said I'm not.
A true psychopath is basically a kind of retard.
If I were truely a psychopath I'd be as proud of it as the epileptic is of epilepsy.
I never intended to convince anyone I was litterally a psychopath.
Psychopath happens to be a common part of my vocabulary and I'm not specifically referring to the disorder everytime I use the word.

It still stands a goth wishes it was me. A goth wishes it was a kid from jackass, anything other than what they are, a vampire will do.

And yeah, they always go on and on about how close to the ideal homo sapien they are on jackass. They just never stop going on about eugenics and how they believe humanity should be cleansed of the weak. I'm kind of bored with that show, it's so repetitive with all those discussions about saving the pandas they have and plotting for genocide, yack yack yack.
Sometimes I wish there was a show about jumping off buildings into bushes and making yourself vomit.

When you psychoanalyze a woman using the kind of mind (blacks chicks) you've fucked as a template, you only look- uh-oh- silly.
It didn't even require analyzing, you openly showed how seriously you take the bond between yourself and your mate. How painfull their death would be for you.
That's the most powerful example of someone to grieve over you could come up with. That just does blatantly say alot about you.
The "I'm not like other girls" defense falls flat when you show you are. You might not actually cut your wrists so your boyfriend can see the scars, but it's only because you're sensible enough to see how lame that is. You still have the same weaknesses and insecurities she does. You're still a solitary female, who has developed a formidable threatening display precisely because she is scared, and you would play other games with your boyfriends' minds to desperately ensure they stay with you and protect your pathetic self from the world that is aching to eat you up.

My female cousins dare their boyfriends to leave, they test the fuck out of them and treat them like shit, because they are 100% secure with their place in their tribe. They don't need a man, but they are urged to acquire fresh blood for the tribe. They still can sit back and be as cunty and fussy as they want. They simply couldn't feel the way you can about a mate because they don't need to.
You actually need a guy, you are in a completely different, more vulnerable and pathetic position. Your instincts feel as though you're hanging onto survival by a thread, you need a man to even begin thinking about one day haveing a family clan.
It would take genocide of my family tree for my female cousins to feel as devestated as you would by the death of one loser dude.
And being a male, I couldn't even experience that degree of devestation.
Because I wouldn't feel as weak and hopeless as a female would in that position.

Anyway, you're exhibitted your weakness for no reason, you crying over your pathetic man who you "hurt for the mutual pleasure" isn't even an example of you showing empathy. You're crying over the pitifull position his death puts you.
Crying over the death of a stranger is crying over your own sensivity to violence. Thats a true showing of being an incompetent example of a homosapien. Your pathetic case is merely circumstance, being a jew about violence is actually being a broken animal. It's just less readily obvious than down's syndrome, same principle. A mistake. Born to be lion food.

Any group, jock or no, is an amalgam of blatant insecurity.
I don't care who you are or what, standing behind some flag or slogan or some ism likes its housewife.

From the Nazi to the Democrat- no longer men, but mouthpieces.
I agreed.
But what about the hopelessly devoted couple?
You all wish you had a tribe. And you're desperately scampering to make up for it.
Indeed, this is why people have this unnatural sense of loyalty to the entire human species. They don't have a tightknit family clan to care about, so they care about the "clan" that is humanity in the hope it will care about them in return.
Misplaced instincts.
You're all suckling on the wrong teat. You're suckling on the farmer's penis after he slaughtered your mother.

I care for my social unit, the reason such traits as empathy exist is specifically for the tribe and I happen to be one of the rare few with my roots still firmly planted in the right pots.
I can't feel for the bun in your oven, I am comfortable with kicking it, because I don't consider you part of my social unit. You're competition. No this definately does not make me a psychopath. It makes me an unspoiled version of the human.
Society is based on the concept that humanity is a tribe, and all the laws of the tribe apply to humanity as a whole. This is why they will come up with many words for me if I am seen kicking your pregnant abdomen. One of which might be psychopath, maybe if a doctor is in the vicinity he will come and determine that I'm not a psychopath, whatever, I don't have the species wide loyalty that society wants it's people to have which is the point.
I see no reason to side with a stranger over an animal, I'm more likely to side with the animal because the person's face makes me sick, he is a rival to me, which is why cruelty to animals can offend me so.

But hey, you've watched jackass so you've heard it all before.

without your regular style
You really dropped the ball on that one. The first time you attacked me as mephura you were playing quite the little retard, and yes I was duped.
But you seemed to gain more pride in how mephura came accross, and this inevitably made him behave like you because you are your ideal man.
You couldn't help making him your infatuated white knight. You basically played the role of your own imaginary ideal boyfriend.
But no you're not desperately needy.

Little clue- if I don't post to you as Gendanken, you're being mocked.
Thanks for the heads up.
Oh and by the way, if you ever catch me jerking off in front of a mirror weeping, thats me mocking you, ok? It won't be me being a pathetic loser or anything, no, me mocking you.
If I ever accidentally shit my pants that will also be me mocking you.

I'm actually more inclined to look at the sheer effort you're putting into your replies to Gendanken, lou.

Are you aware that your words mean absolutely nothing in the light of that?

Funny you should say that, I was trying to slip into that post that I've noticed how seriously gendanken takes being a member of sciforums, like it's a paying job.
She'll quote comments from months earlier and generally watches everything like a hawk. Also plots elaborate long form schemes to eventually make a point.
It would be quite impressive if the reality of what she is doing wasn't so unescapably lame.

But right now I'm more focussed on the wreckless audacity you've exhibitted by even showing up, as though you're going to fool anyone into thinking you actually have a problem with what I've been saying, like you actually read my posts and decided to reply due to their content rather than the fact they opposed gendanken, sorry- GENDANKEN (praise her name).
You came in here to display your dull plumage where gendanken would see it yet again.
Each time you pop your little weasel head out of gendanken's asshole to make a nothing comment against whoever isn't gendanken you act as though it's the first time. "I'm inclined..." like "I just happened to be walking by...".
Why are you so openly pathetic? Where is the shame that simply must accompany such behaviour?
Have you no conscience?

I'm actually more inclined to look at the sheer effort you're putting into your replies to Gendanken, lou.
Translation- I noticed there are quite a few words in the posts you are aiming at Gendanken.

Are you aware that your words mean absolutely nothing in the light of that?
Translation- Ofcourse, I didn't read any of those words, you know, because they weren't written by Gendanken.

40 minutes.

Haha, talk about grasping at straws. You wouldn't even know what I was doing during those 40 minutes. You've deciphered that my computer had a window open on a reply screen for forty minutes.
The fact you timed it has to at least be as lame as someone spending 40 minutes on a post anyway.
And you are fenris wolf, let's not lose sight of that.

I merely read the difference between your reply time and mine.

No need to get all defensive. Is there?

Lou, you gorgeos moron, have you any clue why I even brought up the 'loved one'?
Because I've seen the "cold-blooded" prototypes, like you, shot to mush with love.
And know what they all had in common?
Masculinity, and this applies to both men and women.
Therefore- the 'some like you'.
Watch you get lost in what the fuck I just said.


Now do me a favor, "Bateman"- now that you're going back on everything you've said in this thread to cover your bases- mail me a pic of the person that ends up melting you down to jelly.
Its going to be a woman.

My female cousins dare their boyfriends to leave, they test the fuck out of them and treat them like shit, because they are 100% secure with their place in their tribe. They don't need a man, but they are urged to acquire fresh blood for the tribe. They still can sit back and be as cunty and fussy as they want. They simply couldn't feel the way you can about a mate because they don't need to.

Much simpler, Simplicio: your family is skilled in breeding spoiled, cunty women.
And its apparently rubbed off on the males.

Anyway- bloody shame that girls are made this way, never once thinking something's wrong.
That they’re made this way, not born.
Something’s fishy.
I should know.

You're free to blab about women being weak, safe in the blindfolds of gender. Booga booga booga.

Funny you should say that, I was trying to slip into that post that I've noticed how seriously gendanken takes being a member of sciforums, like it's a paying job.

Pay my bills or shut the fuck up.
It would be quite impressive if the reality of what she is doing wasn't so unescapably lame.

Computer lab.

I get to sit here all day thinking about you picking your pubic lice, pretty fucking lame huh?

Also plots elaborate long form schemes to eventually make a point.

Agnus genius.

She'll quote comments from months earlier and generally watches everything like a hawk.
I have an amazing memory, fuckpop.

Word to the wise, never fuck with a woman's memory.

Agnus genius.

I'd call you Agnus Sheoli.
It looks damn fine to me.

I'd call you Agnus Sheoli.
It looks damn fine to me.
Pardon?
What the christ is eating you?

Little princess stands in the corner shuffling her feet with a plastic crown upon her head.
She’s been caught wearing her daddy’s clothes and pretending she’s a King again. :eek:

Little girls play such cruel pranks.
They search for minions to send forth in their place and hate the ones that refuse them. They eventually hate the ones that don't refuse them also.
They search for stallions to bear them through the jungles and refuse to give up control to them finding a million imperfections about them.
They search for purity in a world that has hurt them and refuse to expose their vulnerability.

Little girls hate being ignored and so they formulate clever little strategies to get themselves noticed. Then, when another steals the spotlight for a while, they accuse them of grandstanding.
They sometimes rant and rave.
They sometimes blush and smile.
They sometimes attack others with the characteristics they hate most in themselves and inadvertently reveal themselves.
They flirt and then bite so that none can come close enough to see the pores on their skin.
They wear masks of makeup to hide the blemishes and to attract men’s stares and then deny the motivation.
They feel their inner nature and rationalize it away, because they feel ashamed of it.

Little girls can only feel power by manipulating men into seemingly unflattering positions that expose their basest male instincts and that degrade them in their eyes. But they can’t perceive how this also exposes their own basest female instincts.

Little girls giggle after throwing eggs at the grumpy neighbour’s windows and huddle laughing with their ‘friends’ at how they have soiled the others home. Yet the home is what they envy most and wish that it were their own.

Little girls associate with little boys and wear the same clothing in an attempt to belong.
But it is men they long for most of all.

Little girls use large words and quote from big books. But little girls have no real understanding of what they speak. They just know about it. :bugeye:

Little girls mask their ignorance with elaborate metaphors and ambiguous poetry.
But they wish they could speak freely and be honest.

Little girls play the part of Queen/King but they are still little; such, little little girls.

Little girls find all this attention flattering and invigorating. This is why they spend so much time here.

On Topic:
Why are people ignorant?
Because they don’t know that they are.

Dr Lou Natic
Be careful. Little girl likes you.
You're her type.
Forget the words watch the behavior.

Her admission, even if somewhat forced, is her way of bearing her neck to you.

That'll get the wolves howling again.

Agnus Sheoli.

The Lamb of Hell.

I think it's an exhilarating metaphor.

Ich liebe Latein!

Rosa:
Agnus Sheoli.

The Lamb of Hell.

I think it's an exhilarating metaphor.

Ich liebe Latein!
German's a bit rusty, enlighten me.

A most exhilirating metaphor?
I could call you lamb form Wal-Mart but what would be the point?
I'll admit the "Sheoli" has a nice ring to it, but can't help thinking you're saying it from malice.

Truthseeker:
Oh... and the class is finished. And no.... I didn't fart when I was there, unfortunately
All philosophy classes are a simple, but fancy, collection of gas.

Gendanken,


I have a thing for Latin phrases, and "agnus Dei" sounds absolutely brilliant. So do some other pharses, and sometimes I make them up to make my mind smile. Agnus Mari. Agnus Solis.
My father, for fun (long story), used to call me "agnus Dei", but in my native language, there it is "jagnje Božje". These words sound so deliciously pretty to my Slavic ears, the "gnj" and "žj".


German's a bit rusty, enlighten me.

I love Latin. -- Ich liebe Latein.
You love Latin. -- Du liebst Latein.
He loves Latin. -- Er liebt Latein.


A most exhilirating metaphor?
I could call you lamb form Wal-Mart but what would be the point?
I'll admit the "Sheoli" has a nice ring to it, but can't help thinking you're saying it from malice.

Sweetie, a girl in a pink shirt can not be malicious.

You once said you were your own Sheol, and I, in my most exquisite memorizing capacity, remembered it, delicately.
You could also be Agnus Bradburii (hm, where's Rappaccini?), or Agnus Shakespearianus. If you don't like to be an agnus, you can be a regina. Like Regina fori. Or Regina Sheoli.
Splendid!

Rosa:
These words sound so deliciously pretty to my Slavic ears, the "gnj" and "žj".

Latins trump Slavs.

The German tongue, according to Burgess, resembles salami or something meaty:
"A large ham-pink German family spoke of Rome in serious and regretful cadences, churning the sights and sounds into long compound sausage words"

Then again he describes the language of Roma as a big maggoty cheese with too many irregular verbs.
The sweetest tongue, my dears, is French- another Latin sibling.
All other tongues seem harsh and bristly compared to Latin ones.
Which is why its speakers were more powerful.

But French- you can turn yourself on speaking to yourself in French.

I love Latin. -- Ich liebe Latein.

I do as well.
Allow me to pervert my own little creation- tempus fuckit.

Sweetie, a girl in a pink shirt can not be malicious.
But they can smile in your face and lace your juice with arsenic simultaneously..

Pink shirt and all.
I'd rather fight to the death in a boxing ring if I'm 'pissy'.

If you don't like to be an agnus, you can be a regina.
And if you don't like to be an anus, you can be a vagina.
Muhahahhahahahhah.

It is too early in the morning for me to be sour and be here so early.
Veteran's Day be damned.

Deutschland, Deutschland
Über alles
Über alles in der welt

You will have to add the melody to the text on your own.

Latins trump Slavs.

Ah. The same as Americans trump ... well, anyone.


The sweetest tongue, my dears, is French- another Latin sibling.
All other tongues seem harsh and bristly compared to Latin ones.

Seem so to whom, by whose standards?


Which is why its speakers were more powerful.

Uh. Eh. Ah. What you have there is a non-sequitur.


But French- you can turn yourself on speaking to yourself in French.


Frère Jacques, Frère Jacques
Dormez-vous, dormez-vous?
|: Sonnez les matines, :|
Ding ding dong, ding ding dong



Yup. This is extremely on-turning.


“ Sweetie, a girl in a pink shirt can not be malicious. ”

But they can smile in your face and lace your juice with arsenic simultaneously..

Pink shirt and all.
I'd rather fight to the death in a boxing ring if I'm 'pissy'.

Huh. What makes you think I'm pissy?
There is this thing about Americans, and the generalization holds in this particular instance as well, -- Americans are paranoid. They don't understand any fun. It's all edge of the knife to them. They are so serious.

How many Goths does it take to change a lightbulb?



















None. they like it better in the dark :D
Nice! =D

How did i get a 5 page thread started when i cant even get my relativety to light and time thread to get past 3 lol....
People, we should end this thread... "goths" are simply this frame of mind:
Humanity has added too many restrictions to their minds, and therefor find certain things for girls only or guys only or just plain wrong. These restrictions are wrong, because in some certain parts of the world, guys wear dresses and skirts. Humanity has added this bullshit restrictions to what we do because of THEIR opinions.
Noone is open-minded anymore. When a guy wears makeup, dont go fuck with him and call him a fag... in truth he probably is the straightest guy you will know, and has a knife under his "trenchcoat" just waiting for someone to screw with him.
Learn to accept! Get over yuour opinions for people you dont understand and try to get to know them first. Most "goth" people are actually happy, and enjoy the company of friends. Note i said FRIENDS... they sometimes wear all black and excessive makeup to get rid of those friends that arent truly friends.

I hope everyone understands what im talking about. Thats the way i think... i wont change for anyone except myself. If i enjoy doing something that other people dont like, i will do it and say "fuck them". They can learn to accept what i think or they can do just that and "fuck off".

People, we should end this thread...

As you wish. ;)