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bhudmaash 05-21-03, 09:44 PM You know that scene at the begining of "A fist full of dollars" where Clint rides into the desolate town inhabited just by widows, because all the men have been killed? Well that got me thinking of Palastine.
Now the current Palastinian population is around 4-4.5 million. I'm not sure as to the exact statistical nature with regards to the birth/death rate of the Palastinians, but a lot of young males have died, and continue to die. Those who were married leave widdows, then it comes down to whether or not those widdows have childeren, and those men that were single, cuts down on the further offspring. I'm just wondering if it's at all posible for the Palastinian people to one day completey die out???
I suppose it's possible. In the distant future...
But right now it seems very improbably unless some kind of a catastrophe occured. I'm talking about a comet, or a nuke. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry. They tend to reproduce rapidly as in most third world area's.
EI_Sparks 05-21-03, 10:43 PM Considering the number of palestinian refugees in other arab states and other middle eastern countries (for example, there are 90,000 now being kicked out of Iraq over the concerns of the UN refugee commissionar), I don't think that any event is going to render them extinct without killing off most of the human race.
That said, I don't think extinct is the correct term, since it applies to a species, not an ethnic group.
Nah, they'd just do again what they did the first time...grab a bunch of generic Arabs from other countries and dub them "Palestinian."
Sparks, I sent you a private message.
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 12:36 PM what like your generic euro/anglosaxon/germanic/arian/caucasian
mongol mish mash of god knows what.
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 01:13 PM Nah, they'd just do again what they did the first time...grab a bunch of generic Arabs from other countries and dub them "Palestinian."
They were there BEFORE your bunch of generic slavs-germanics-turks who call themselves Hebrews ....... identity crisis that is
yes yes
Im perfectly happy about my mixed up socalled race ....but hey some people feel entitled as "chosen ones" ......
As far as Palestinians go ...... they're just Arabs from that region , we have Arabs from plenty regions , being Palestinian is like being Syrian , bullshit .
Besides , they wont extinct , they make lots of babies
:D
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 01:15 PM ...furthermore alanH:
it's been proven that the peoples of europe are direct decendants of the middle eastern people.
..so kiss ma "generic brown " ass.:mad:
They do breed a lot...
Anyway, most of them weren't there before the Zionists moved in and created business opportunities.
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 01:19 PM Anyway, most of them weren't there before the Zionists moved in and created business opportunities.
Most of them werent BORN YET .
700.000 were there and fled
Well that IS why the keep the refugee camps running...to create facts on the ground.
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 01:21 PM say what??
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 01:31 PM Thats why they kept the gas-chambers running , to create evidence on the ground :bugeye:
Nazi !!!
Originally posted by bhudmaash
You know that scene at the begining of "A fist full of dollars" where Clint rides into the desolate town inhabited just by widows, because all the men have been killed? Well that got me thinking of Palastine.
Now the current Palastinian population is around 4-4.5 million.
there are only about 1.6 million latvians left
poor poor 4.5 million palestinians :rolleyes:
the faster they die out, the faster the Palestinian conflict is ended with ;)
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:03 PM there are only about 1.6 million latvians left
I miss the good old days ......
http://www.emory.edu/COLLEGE/CULPEPER/TAULBEE/maps/ussrmaps/noncisanim.gif
the faster they die out, the faster the Palestinian conflict is ended with
Thats gonna be hard killing 300 M peoples
I thought that there are only 4.5 at max
I miss the good old days ......
? :confused:
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:11 PM I thought that there are only 4.5 at max
Being Palestinian is just as lame as being Syrian or Iraqi , we're all Arabs .
?
Latvia under USSR occupation ?
Latvia under USSR occupation
well, I don't certainly miss that :bugeye:
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:16 PM well, I don't certainly miss that
Than how can you speak of Palestine the way you do ....?
Than how can you speak of Palestine the way you do ....?
easy -
*I've got a few friends in Israel and those f*** palestinians almost killed one of them
*I like jews better than arabs
*don't like terrorists (aka chosing civilians as targets)
*my father has very good relations with some of their military police
whitewolf 05-23-03, 02:28 PM (and theres that thread saying will russ ever rise again, where this dude pays careful attention to diminishing population of russ, thinking they'll die out eventually. why do you people keep hoping that someone will go extinct? funny!)
Um, Latvians?! After ages and ages of being occupied by either Russians or Germans, do you really think there THAT many pure, pure Latvians?... Oh, and another question, someone told me that Latvians came from India; how much truth is there?
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:33 PM I see , your just BIASED as hell , cant logically conclude but go with personal preferences , GREAT . Here's my personal preferance for your lovely latvia :
http://www2.bc.edu/~manning/european_046/USSR9.jpg
almost killed one of them
almost.......thats a shame
my father has very good relations with some of their military police
I c , ur dada a fascist huh ?
I like jews better than arabs
Tfu!! Cus Mamhoon
:mad:
Oh hey , How about an ARAB JEW ? Idiot ......
no - it is believed the indoeuropeans came from the balkans, then from them they seperated and one went to india, the others to europe.
The Balts (from that first flow) stayed at the territory where now is Latvia Estonia, Lithuania, and the territory of Russia till SantPeterburg
the others went on further into CE and WE
m, Latvians?! After ages and ages of being occupied by either Russians or Germans, do you really think there THAT many pure, pure Latvians?
in our all too much globalised world there can be no pure pure
I'm talking about poeple that are at least 1/2 balts, speak latvian and think of latvia as their rodjina (forgot the english word) ummm homecountry where they belong
I'm about 1/5 polish , still a latvian
I c , ur dada a fascist huh ?
why? I'm myself a fascist :p
Oh hey , How about an ARAB JEW ? Idiot ......
ok - muslins
what's the big difference anyway
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:39 PM muslin ? and ur what schmichtian ?
Oh nevermind even
Originally posted by Allahs_Mathematics
what ??? IndoEuropeans come from the Balkan ?
LMAO
what's so funny? :confused:
it's what the last studies suggest
European homeland was around the lower and middle Danube or on the northern coast of the Black Sea
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 02:43 PM "easy -
*I've got a few friends in Israel and those f*** palestinians almost killed one of them
*I like jews better than arabs
*don't like terrorists (aka chosing civilians as targets)
*my father has very good relations with some of their military police"
.....enough said. I dont think there's any point in trying to reason with u.
just look out for a RPG aimed for ure ass.....
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:46 PM European homeland was around the lower and middle Danube or on the northern coast of the Black Sea
And they what , popped out of the ground ?
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 02:46 PM *don't like terrorists (aka chosing civilians as targets)
so IDF never killed a civvie in their life??.....wake up u latvian fascist
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:49 PM PS : How about east of the Black Sea ?
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 02:50 PM *I like jews better than arabs
what jews? mizrahim? falasha? ashkenazim? arab jews? euro slav germanic jews?
man it's one thing being ignorant, but ignorant and vague!
...or even ignorant vague, and predjudiced
Originally posted by bhudmaash
so IDF never killed a civvie in their life??.....wake up u latvian fascist
killing by chance is one thing
killing by intention is another - especially if those are civilians
Originally posted by bhudmaash
what jews? mizrahim? falasha? ashkenazim? arab jews? euro slav germanic jews?
man it's one thing being ignorant, but ignorant and vague!
...or even ignorant vague, and predjudiced
jews that are legal citizens of Israel
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 02:57 PM get outta town.
U have no comprehension of the facts...please dont humiliate yourself
read my thread "rafah"
EI_Sparks 05-23-03, 02:58 PM killing by chance is one thing
killing by intention is another - especially if those are civilians
Rachel Corrie, Brian Avery, Tom Hurndall, James Miller.
Good enough to start with?
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 02:59 PM what jews? mizrahim? falasha? ashkenazim? arab jews? euro slav germanic jews?
I like these jews best :
http://www.rael.org/
or these :
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/
or these :
http://www.awitness.org/
LMAO
Come on y'all , lets become Hebrew Israelites as well :
http://www.convert.org
no need
you will never support Israel
and I will never support Palestinians
easy as that
good for the ballance also
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:00 PM jews that are legal citizens of Israel
gee thanks for not being vague.
WHICH jews? how are they legal? legal citizens of a contrived state built on stolen land justified by false reigiuos rhetoric?
legal citizens of a contrived state built on stolen land justified by false reigiuos rhetoric?
if you say so
btw- religion can not be false or true
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:03 PM http://www.wapers.com/vehicles/merkava/merkava1024.jpg
Its just a very big telescope , we dont intend to kill anyone
http://www.fims.uwo.ca/olr/apr1502/israelpicture1.jpg
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:03 PM man get off that ARAB =EXTREMIST TRIP
U obviously havnt been reading our posts in other threads
edit:
this is directed to AV
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:04 PM if you say so
btw- religion can not be false or true
religious rhetorics CAN , dont mix it up latty boy
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:05 PM btw- religion can not be false or true
i said religious rhetoric....religious rhetoric different to religion
Bhudmaash, you're so cute when you are angry:D
Read you tomorrow
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:08 PM AVATAR:
jews that are legal citizens of Israel
allah: hey lets create a legal state in avatars back yard, me and u can be legal citizens...ok>
http://home.ptd.net/~nikki/images/toddler.jpg
http://www2.uiuc.edu/ro/observer/archive/vol11/issue6/bomber.jpg
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:11 PM But there was a LEGAL state in his back yard not so long ago , remember ?
http://allans-armory.com/images/ussr.jpg
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:15 PM Originally posted by Avatar
no need
you will never support Israel
and I will never support Palestinians
easy as that
good for the ballance also
dude, read our posts in the other threads about pally.
are u even reading our posts in this thread????
or are u just on autopilot????
switch the brain ON,
again ure above statement beggars belief!...you cant even conceptualise what u r arguing, and with what u r arguing.
"u will never support Israel"...meanning an arbritary state,
"i will never support the palastinians"...meaning a people,
so ur comparing our not agreeing with a completely arbritary state with a nation of people??????WTF???
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:18 PM and these are just firecrackers?
I rather have a silly looking dude (or 2 year old) with fake explosions than a TANK!!!!!!! (or 50 tanks rather....)
but hey.....u probably thought they were real (u mention fire crackers , lol) .....retard its a DEMONSTRATION
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:22 PM 12th grade student
LOL , I see u still have the USSR educational system , but hey ..........ur what 16 , 15 ? LOL
not the guys in white clothes
btw- if that demonstration shows the attitude of palestinians then the palestinian population is a threat to Israel, no? :sneers:
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:25 PM geez...UR ON AUTOPILOT!!
what attitude? attitude of outrage, betrayal, loss of liberty?
being oppressed daily??
Originally posted by Allahs_Mathematics
12th grade student
LOL , I see u still have the USSR educational system , but hey ..........ur what 16 , 15 ? LOL
you can't count backwards, yes? 1983/12/28
starting personal attacks?
quite miserably of you
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:27 PM AVATAR:
"MY ...MIND ...IS STUCK......I CANNOT COMPUTE.....ARAB=EXTREMIST=UNREASONABLE RACE=ALWAYS ANGRY FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER....HELP....BREAK THIS CYCLE"
Originally posted by bhudmaash
geez...UR ON AUTOPILOT!!
what attitude? attitude of outrage, betrayal, loss of liberty?
being oppressed daily??
attitude of killing women and children in suicide bombings
miserable and cowardly people
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:29 PM attitude of killing women and children in suicide bombings
how do u know this is happening?
are u in pally?
where do u see this?
where do u hear this?
do yourself a favor...read my thread "Rafah".....at least do me that courtesy
I said that I have some friends in Israel and one of them almost got killed in such an attack at one disco
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:34 PM well i USED to have friends from gaza. no more.
yr dad's friend or whatever is giving u a load of BS.
DEAD MEN DONT LIE on the otherhand
EI_Sparks 05-23-03, 03:35 PM I'll repeat Avatar:
Rachel Corrie, Brian Avery, Tom Hurndall, James Miller.
Good enough to start with?
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:36 PM and Tom Hundall's and Millers murder were caught on film which the IDF refuse to look at
Originally posted by bhudmaash
yr dad's friend or whatever is giving u a load of BS.
don't think so
I know more than 1 guy from Israel, and they all say the same
Originally posted by bhudmaash
and Tom Hundall's and Millers murder were caught on film which the IDF refuse to look at
just a few cases...
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:41 PM I said that I have some friends in Israel and one of them almost got killed in such an attack at one disco
having a party while others are being killed by tanks , that suits him well
he just got his disneyland-bubble burst , wish him well and say to him : Al Lo Davar
:D
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 03:41 PM just a few cases...
yes...theres thousands more.
1 death is a tragedy....1000 is a ststistic right Av?
right you've pointed out that loads of people are being killed ...whoopdeedoo...now step back, switch the brain on and try to elucidate the real issues, the real underlying factors
"having a party while others are being killed by tanks , that suits him well"
Like the rodents danced and sang and gave out candy when the buildings fell on 9/11...
Amazing how you people expect sympathy when you're so pro-death and anti-human.
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 03:58 PM Like the rodents danced and sang and gave out candy when the buildings fell on 9/11...
yup , u should have seen me jump around allan
Happens to be in Algeria 1600 died of an earthquake , but hey .....who cares , 35.000 die every day out of starvation , but hey ....who cares .
GOD BLESS USAMA BIN LADEN
maybe they should get what they so much adore?
Allahs_Mathematics 05-23-03, 04:03 PM maybe they should get what they so much adore?
Maybe you should try to bring it on , we're not the Lodz ghetto my friend .
Don't worry...they'll bring it on themselves....they always do.
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 04:09 PM who "they"?
who are u talking about?
be specific
they always do.
if "they" always do, then it will be easy for u to name instances
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 04:12 PM ALAN:
you're very quick to point out an "emotional" statement by allah, but too dumb to recognise the sardonic nature in which it was made
yet u ignore simular emotional irrational staements by avatar:
"I hate arabs"...etc
"They" being the Palestinians, in the most general sense.
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 04:15 PM right , and so they've brought about their own butality and oppression?
they brought about the english handing over their land to the zions???
bhudmaash 05-23-03, 04:17 PM Like the rodents danced and sang and gave out candy when the buildings fell on 9/11...
like the morons who believe any old library footage spewed out on FOX news.
They refused to share officially what they had already. been sharing unofficially, and then they invited the repercussions of committing terrorism against another people. Even now, they could have their own state, but Mazen won't be able to rein in Hamas, and Arafat will still be sending out his al Aksars, and the hapless, hopeless, Palestinians will remain neither here nor there, pathetic pawns of the rest of the Arab world, who care nothing about their "brothers" except for their usefulness as a weapon against Israel.
FOX was right about who was winning the Iraq war. You can't say the same about al Jazeera. :p
YitzhaKShimshelevitZ 05-23-03, 08:02 PM Shalom
the Arab world, who care nothing about their "brothers" except for their usefulness as a weapon against Israel
But who is the Arab world ? Is the Arab world the peoples that inhabit the Arabian Peninsula , or is the Arab world the regimes and upperclasses that rule the Arabian Peninsula ?
I do not think there are many people who have the sociological capabilities and general psychological understanding to conclude a sphere or opinion or emotional development from a people he or she has never lived among and carefully observed , but just has read about . As I have been going around and about a bit , I am not convinced of the capabilities of peoples on these boards for conclusions from such . That is why I wish to leave the voice of the peoples and their personal support , out of the question for generality's sake .
Now the regimes and upperclasses (that include high bureaucrats , royalty , wealthy sheikhs and such) , indeed have little in common with the refugees of Palestine . It would be quite unnatural of them to care without wanting something in return , and it is not expected otherwise . The way Palestinians are treated in other Arabic countries governmentally arranged is of the highest disgust , yet every Arabic leader will encourage their battle for Israel , as they have interests that go back 55 years and more . I am sure those interests are not equivalent to the interests of the common Palestinians , not only as far as their authorities and organizations go , who have been created out of interests post-48 . Ofcourse these groups have now their own interests that also play along as they overshadow the common purpose they have with their peoples .
But what about the other regime , the one they all seem to oppose so fanatical ? Let their treatment of the natives be indisputable , how about the treatment of their own . Has zionist Israel taken care of their own Jewish population , what came first ? The state or the Jew ? What answers can the zionists provide as they are confronted with their identity's questions (http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/tenquestions.htm) . What about Naeim Giladi's (http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/onlinebooks/IraqiJews.pdf) case ? What about the cases presented by ?Le Choc (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n2p-2_Faurisson.html) ?
How great did the zionists treat the Jews ? Was it any better than Stalin ? Was it any better than Hitler ? The Jewish people should recognize what has been done to their own , in the name of Israel .
If I may so free to quote one of the notorious writers of the Haskala , Chaim Hazaz :
To my mind... Zionism and Judaism are not at all the same, but two things quite different from each other, and maybe two things directly the opposite to each other! At any rate, far from the same. When a man can no longer be a Jew, he becomes a Zionist... .Zionism begins with the wreckage of Judaism... .Zionism is not a continuation, it is no medicine for an ailment... It is uprooting and destruction, it is the opposite of what has been, it's the end... I believe that this land of Israel already is no longer Jewish. Even now, let alone in the future. Time will tell, as they say. That's its hidden core, that's the power it will yet unfold. Yes! At any rate, it's a different Judaism, if you choose to fool yourselves and keep the name, but certainly not the same as survived for two thousand years, not at all the same.
(http://www.bookmasters.com/clarity/b0006.htm)
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bhudmaash 05-24-03, 12:50 PM the first link u gave, I have that already in my bookmark, and have posted it before, in this thread I think. The problem is that the neo-nazi fascist briggade (Avatar, Jerrek, and now Stu it seems) don't like reading, they don't like thinking even come to think of it.
shalom.:m:
PS: they (the fascist briggade, TFB from now on) see our support for the Palastinians which is an oppression issue, they take it as an "anti jew/judaism" issue, then they cannot define what they mean by "jew" because their brain is on Fox news overload, and they can't distinuish judaism from zionism, hence in their eyes support for the Palastinians automatically equates with ANTI-SEMITISM, ARAB EXTREMISM etc...
then they cannot even fully define who the "semites" are.
when they take the arguement to a religious/historical level they can't hack it, because their lack of knowledge becomes apparant. The have a hard time dissacotiating Arab from muslim, hence can't comprehend arab jews. Religiously they hav eno idea what the hell they're talking about. When told of the close link between Islam/Judaism with regards to the Prophet Abraham, they don't want to listen.
Abdullathebomber 05-24-03, 10:55 PM Originally posted by alanH
Nah, they'd just do again what they did the first time...grab a bunch of generic Arabs from other countries and dub them "Palestinian."
Abdulla: I say the increasingly impotent Jews with their declining birth rate and their increasing intermarriage will see the Jew go the way of the DooDoo by 2090.
AbdullaTheBomber....
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