I would like to do an experiment with pain. How can I give myself a controllable level of pain over an extended period of time without causing myself any damage?

Watch Oprah. Although the "damage" bit is debatable.

But your brain-cells will die and never come back.

Lion Hearted, get yourself a tens unit and give yourself mild electrical shocks.

Get married. Don't think there will be any extended physical damage, although no guarantees on the mental.:D

Maybe she is trying something that the martial artists etc do...i forget what it's called, but it's when they feel pain but don't notice it too much. Pain conditioning i guess you'd call it?

Maybe she is testing her max threshold for pain,

I would like to do an experiment with pain. How can I give myself a controllable level of pain over an extended period of time without causing myself any damage?


this is nuts, just scrap your idea. unless you are one of those you like the feeling of pain...

I don't know why you want to give yourself pain. Are you trying to test your pain threshold? If you are, you will find that the brain is very adaptive and that the pain level you can withstand today can increase with conditioning. However, this can be dangerous, because as the level increases you become unaware of damage you could be doing.

Further, some become addicted to the sensation of pain...getting into a loop of ever increasing levels.

Please be careful and evaluate the purpose of why you want to do this test. Think twice before you begin something that could really impact you the rest of your life.

Download a print out of the Scofield Scale and buy you some peppers, ranging from a Bell Pepper to a Havanero or a Scotch Bonnet. Record your pain levels as you eat your way up the scale. But definitely keep a gallon of ice cream close at hand.:D

Gawsh, some of you are such pussies. It's truely sad.

Don't worry, I'll be careful.

empty your savings account. Sell everyting you have. Take out loans with several banks and friends, especially best friends. Put all the money in the middle of a busy street and watch it disappear.

painful and possibly liberating

Pain can be very enlightening. Seomthing about inflicting upon yourself that which the mindless masses fear and live their lives avoiding. Also, in times of extreme pain, everything which is unimportant is forgotten. Also when someone tastes death, everything that does not matter has completely left their mind.

Moments of pain can lead to self-revelations. You can come to grasp with your emotions, the way you act, the way you think, etc, because you forget in these moments that which isn't true.

You see some mainstream big star rapper walking around these days. I'll use nelly for my example. He raps about his clothes, his cars, his sex. Cut off his arm and see how much shit he continues talking. If he doesn't change the way he acts with his brand new stump still shooting out blood, he is real. Otherwise you will see his true side.

Now imagine, you can do this to yourself any time you want.

I prefer a knife. Or jump off of high places.

Permanent damage is the part that I like. All of my previous friends stare at my cut arms. They are fucked up people.

I say punch everything that you see. I like stop signs and concrete walls. Especially when my knuckles get bloody. Also, paintball guns to the thighs at close range hurt like shit, but they wont leave scars. I've done this accidently once.

:eek: :bugeye: :eek: :confused:
They're fucked up people
... Ah... slacker, why eexactly do you choose to inflict damage on yourself?

EDIT: For anyone whos interested...
Are you hurting? Do you need to harm yourself to feel "alive" or "better"? Please read this. You are not alone.
Or, call 1-800-DONT-CUT for immediate help.

... Ah... slacker, why eexactly do you choose to inflict damage on yourself?

Because it's fun, and it shows he has balls. Unlike you, some people don't turn into snivelling pussies at the slightest sting.

Because it's fun, and it shows he has balls. Unlike you, some people don't turn into snivelling pussies at the slightest sting.

Exactly. People dont realize that its just skin and nerve cells. Big deal. Pain is temporary and it is part of evolution, so use it to your advantage. Condition yourself so that you can deal with pain. Eat tons of food one day, and then dont eat for three days. That is fun. You only live once, so try to do everything without the fear of pain. When there isnt pain, there isnt life. (dont get all biological)

Are you hurting? Do you need to harm yourself to feel "alive" or "better"?

Oh I feel alive. Better... I do cut myself as a punishment for society. Stupid westerners are what make me do it most of the time.

Xev:
Because it's fun, and it shows he has balls. Unlike you, some people don't turn into snivelling pussies at the slightest sting.
Fun.
I find that not to be the most enjoyable thing. I prefer to go to a party with a friend or something if i wanted to fun.
Balls.
Perhaps, but a person can easily have balls whether or not they have fun slicing themselves up and punching concrete.
Slightest sting.
Ive basically been the human punching bag all my life, so dont assume right away that im some pussy that cant stick up for himself. I've wiped the floor with a few people, who just happened to be looking for someone to pummel. They also happened to be a half a foot taller, but they picked a fight with the wrong guy. When i need to, ill kick the crap out of someone, even tho i use fighting as a last resort.
Slacker23:
Exactly. People dont realize that its just skin and nerve cells. Big deal. Pain is temporary and it is part of evolution, so use it to your advantage. Condition yourself so that you can deal with pain. Eat tons of food one day, and then dont eat for three days. That is fun. You only live once, so try to do everything without the fear of pain. When there isnt pain, there isnt life. (dont get all biological)
"That is fun"
I dont take pleasure in injuring/depriving myuself of food. Pushing my physical limits, yes, but not causing myself harm.
"Condition yourslef so you can deal with pain."
Probably the only statement i agree with somewhat. Ive taken martial arts and conditioned myself, ive developed "balls of steel" as a result. Without pian, there is no life? Sure. Hundreds, if not thousands of famous people throughout history saying something rather different cant be wrong.
Oh I feel alive. Better... I do cut myself as a punishment for society. Stupid westerners are what make me do it most of the time.
As i punishment to society? How exactly are you punishing them? I dont really see them hit with a negative effect. Stupid westerners make you do it, eh? Do they force you to cut yourself? How is it their fault? Come on, you starting to sound like Greenworld:p

As i punishment to society? How exactly are you punishing them? I dont really see them hit with a negative effect. Stupid westerners make you do it, eh? Do they force you to cut yourself? How is it their fault? Come on, you starting to sound like Greenworld

I tell everyone that asks that it is thier fault, and change. So, the effect is positive.

Probably the only statement i agree with somewhat. Ive taken martial arts and conditioned myself, ive developed "balls of steel" as a result. Without pian, there is no life? Sure. Hundreds, if not thousands of famous people throughout history saying something rather different cant be wrong.

Who cares if people are famous or not? Dont put any value into someones social status as a basis for agreement. Do you remember the guy that stepped in front of the tank in China? He is famous and went through tons of pain. If you have developed these "balls of steel" then why are you against pain. Especially i you are into martial arts. You should know that pain cannot hold you back from anything.

I tell everyone that asks that it is thier fault, and change. So, the effect is positive.


How does this create a positive effect? How is it their fault?
Who cares if people are famous or not? Dont put any value into someones social status as a basis for agreement. Do you remember the guy that stepped in front of the tank in China? He is famous and went through tons of pain. If you have developed these "balls of steel" then why are you against pain. Especially i you are into martial arts. You should know that pain cannot hold you back from anything.
I would simply rather feel a more positive thing, like say a kiss from a girl, than a kick in the nuts. I definitly like the first more. And yup, pain cant hold you back from anything with enough willpower. :cool:

man of jade:
Fun.
I find that not to be the most enjoyable thing. I prefer to go to a party with a friend or something if i wanted to fun.

Well, I like me endorphins!

Balls.
Perhaps, but a person can easily have balls whether or not they have fun slicing themselves up and punching concrete.

True, but if they're so afraid of the slightest cut and nick that they must label us thrill-seekers as "fucked up", then I think they haven't got much in the way of balls.

Xev:
U like endorphins? Go run around for a while, its proven to increase your endorphin levels a lot.

True, but if they're so afraid of the slightest cut and nick that they must label us thrill-seekers as "fucked up", then I think they haven't got much in the way of balls.
Well if you think im afraid of being cut or stabbed, then your wrong. Theres only really one thing that im afraid of, but im not sure that anybody is sick enough to do such a thing. Has to do with family and friends, thats all im saying. I wouldnt say that your "fucked up", but i do say that you need some professional help. Like seeing a psychiatrist, to be more exact. But i mean if you dont agree with me, try calling the number i put up earlier, or a doctor, and see what they have to say. Im sure that they wouldnt exactly agree with you.

man of jade:
U like endorphins? Go run around for a while, its proven to increase your endorphin levels a lot.

It's quite cold out, which is why I haven't taken my evening run yet. I normally manage a mile or so a day, depending on temperature.

I wouldnt say that your "fucked up", but i do say that you need some professional help.

Because I disagreed with you in an internet debate? My, you have some ego.

Like seeing a psychiatrist, to be more exact.

Anyone who disagrees with you needs psychiatric help? Ah, do you realize how fucked that sounds?

[qutoe]But i mean if you dont agree with me, try calling the number i put up earlier, or a doctor, and see what they have to say. Im sure that they wouldnt exactly agree with you.[/quote]

Agree with me that you are a pussy? They don't even know you, how could they judge?
Or that you are a total fool? Again, how could they judge?

However, I do think that most people would agree:

Suggesting that those who disagree with you are ipso facto in need of professional help is rather idiotic.

Hi Lionheart,

Pain is a defense mechanism of body and nerve system to avoid possible damage.

If u want to test ur endurance level without much damage,

hold 1 kg of weight by each of ur hand and stretch the hands sidewise at shoulder level. Start counting the seconds.

Don't feel demoralised. It is a toughest stuf.

Otherwise do sit-ups till u faint!



:p

Xev:
Anyone who disagrees with you needs psychiatric help? Ah, do you realize how fucked that sounds?

Im not saying that you need psychiatric help because you disagreed with me. Im saying that if you have some spare time, go see what they might say about what you do for a thrill. Im saying that the general poopulace disagrees with what you do, they would most likely think that something is wrong in your head. Thats why im saying what i am. Unless someone Really has problems, and goes about looking for a fight, or does some wierd satanic ritual in which they need human sacrifice or torture, thats when i would step in and do something. Seeing as you dont do this though, i dont have a problem too much with what your doing. I just would rather feel, say love than pain.
Agree with me that you are a pussy? They don't even know you, how could they judge?
Or that you are a total fool? Again, how could they judge?

However, I do think that most people would agree:

Suggesting that those who disagree with you are ipso facto in need of professional help is rather idiotic.
Pussy? Ha. Really, there are other ways to get a thrill , ways other than self-mutilation. Am i pussy just because i dont agree with you, because id rather experience love than pain?
I agree that psychology has rather bad limits. If you want to go ahead and cut up your arms tho, y'know, whatever you wanna do, go ahead. Psychology is set so that if you dont fit into this specific thought pattern, then you are a schizophrenic, or insane, but psychology cant evaluate people properly really. It would take a person who has studied the subject over a long period of time to really know what that person is like. Then again there are a few people that can read someone like a book, and maybe they'd be able to tell you.
Me? a big ego? Thanks, Im surprised you thought of me that way, especially since i follow a part of buddhism, that part about abolishing your ego. If you think i have a big ego, lol thats rich:p

man of jade:
Im not saying that you need psychiatric help because you disagreed with me.

You did:

I wouldnt say that your "fucked up", but i do say that you need some professional help.

Im saying that if you have some spare time, go see what they might say about what you do for a thrill. Im saying that the general poopulace disagrees with what you do, they would most likely think that something is wrong in your head. Thats why im saying what i am.

What do I do that the general "poopulace" disagrees with?

Unless someone Really has problems, and goes about looking for a fight, or does some wierd satanic ritual in which they need human sacrifice or torture, thats when i would step in and do something. Seeing as you dont do this though, i dont have a problem too much with what your doing.

What am I doing?

Dude, are you okay?

Pussy? Ha. Really, there are other ways to get a thrill , ways other than self-mutilation.

Your point being?

Am i pussy just because i dont agree with you, because id rather experience love than pain?

This doesn't even make sense. Why should the two be seperated?

Me? a big ego? Thanks, Im surprised you thought of me that way, especially since i follow a part of buddhism, that part about abolishing your ego. If you think i have a big ego, lol thats rich

Suggesting that there is something wrong with those who disagree with you simply because they disagree with you?

I think that takes ego.

Its pointless to argue with you when you dont recognize what i say. I already said the answers to most of these questions, maybe it went in one ear and out the other, i dunno. But im walking away from this discussion since you fail to acknowledge what ive said.:rolleyes:

You've suggested that I call a self-mutilation hotline to ask for advice about a behaviour that I don't partake in.

Then you suggested that I need psychiatric help because I disagreed with you.

Umm, like duh?

no. you obviously didnt read the last 3 posts i made counting this one. if you arent going to pay attention, theres no point in debating

Originally posted by everneo
hold 1 kg of weight by each of ur hand and stretch the hands sidewise at shoulder level. Start counting the seconds.


So I hold a weight in each hand and raise my hands to shoulder level? In which direction should my palms face? How do I move my hands?

Say, hold 1kg bags in each hand. (u can increase/decrease the weight of the bags as u will). Raise the hadns as if crucified. if palms face downwards pain is more. need not move the hands. jus keep them stretched. stand still and count. r u serious ?:bugeye:

hold 1 kg of weight by each of ur hand and stretch the hands sidewise at shoulder level. Start counting the seconds.

I love doing shit like that. Its pure mentality. If you can do it for like ten minutes, you should be president.

*wondering about Bush* is that a pre-requisite then?

The entire point of inflicting pain on yourself, or in my case, was to take away from the emotional hurt i felt, the bleeding wrists felt better than the empty soul i had to live with

what!!!!? emotional pain is the best!

emotional pain is the worst. You cant escape it and it haunts you like nothing else in the world

True. I have the same thing.

Where do you go when you can't escape your own mind?

sleep?

Originally posted by Slacker47
Where do you go when you can't escape your own mind?

Alcohol, drugs, movies, cigarettes, television, internet, sports... sound familiar? Yes, I think it's a society of much escapism.

Pyshical pain is something from which you can recover. Emotinonal pain however, like Schawks9900 stated, is the worst.
Physical pain comes and goes. You usually forget about how you got injured within the first few months. Emotional pain however, is a lot more devastating. You never seem to forget about what happened and what you could've done to change the past. It hurts and haunts you, putting you in ill health. At least that's what I think.

Originally posted by LionHearted
I would like to do an experiment with pain. How can I give myself a controllable level of pain over an extended period of time without causing myself any damage?
punching concrete like someone sugested, is retarded,you'll permanently damage the nerves in your hands,and get arthritis later,not a good idea.
simplest pretty safe pain endurance exercise is to light a candle,then hold your hand above the flame.
if you want to go for something realy special,such as being able to go for a swim in the icy river in the midle of the winter without freezing,here's a secret how to acomplish this:
you have to condition your body like so;
take a cold shower every day,thats 365 days a year,cant miss even one day otherwise it won't work.

The point of punching concrete is that you dont care about consequences. Life sucks, so why should I bother if I have a broken hand for the rest of my life? Why only limit yourself to pain that is temporary? You must accept all physical pain as equal.

Its like saying that you believe in God, but you bomb abortion clinics... kinda hypocritcal. The physical world will always be the physical.

If you inflict constant pain on your self, at the same intensity, non-stop, until you die, after a while you would build up an imunity to it and no longer feel the pain at all. So, on a more realistic level, if you caused yourself pain daily, you would build up a better resistance to pain while still being able to feel it.


Originally posted by LionHearted I would like to do an experiment with pain. How can I give myself a controllable level of pain over an extended period of time without causing myself any damage?

A good way to accomplish this is headaches. Daily headaches over several years cause you to build up a resistance to pain.