Many people have suggested that an attempt to understand the welter of contradictions in the secret services MI5, MI6, CIA, FBI, KGB and so forth is futile..however I find it all fascinating and compelling..
"Does anyone feel the same or have you other ideas?....:cool:

i was debating wether to post this because it IS very far fetched but its a 6 page artical on "the CIA and its involvement in Australia including the overthrow of the Whitlam Government"

now im pritty sure this is all crap but?

http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/cia_oz/cia_oz1.htm

Originally posted by Asguard
i was debating wether to post this because it IS very far fetched but its a 6 page artical on "the CIA and its involvement in Australia including the overthrow of the Whitlam Government"

now im pritty sure this is all crap but?

http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/cia_oz/cia_oz1.htm

Thankyou Asguard.....That is why I am fascinated with the secret services....things are sometimes done for good or ill........but I think they do a good job in a very dirty businesss:cool:

2 things

i thought either MI5 or MI6 didnt exist (can never rember which)

and isnt the FBI just a police force like the fed police here?

ie it deals with big crimes like drug importation, break out at detention centers ect

Originally posted by Asguard
2 things

i thought either MI5 or MI6 didnt exist (can never rember which)

and isnt the FBI just a police force like the fed police here?

ie it deals with big crimes like drug importation, break out at detention centers ect


Both MI5 and MI6 exist. MI5 is civilian and based in England and MI6 is military and is involved in military matters.....

and isnt the FBI just a police force like the fed police here?

The FBI is like a fed police force , maybe our American Sci - members can enlighten us.....:cool:

Originally posted by IXL777
Both MI5 and MI6 exist. MI5 is civilian and based in England and MI6 is military and is involved in military matters.....

and isnt the FBI just a police force like the fed police here?

The FBI is like a fed police force , maybe our American Sci - members can enlighten us.....:cool:

Does anyone know more about the FBI and their role..
thanx

Originally posted by IXL777
Does anyone know more about the FBI and their role..
thanx

Their chief purpose is to cover up conspiracies involving aliens, or deport illegal aliens, I can't remember what they do exactly but I'm sure it has something to do with aliens. It's all about the aliens.

Originally posted by DCLXVI
Their chief purpose is to cover up conspiracies involving aliens, or deport illegal aliens, I can't remember what they do exactly but I'm sure it has something to do with aliens. It's all about the aliens.


Thanx DCLXVI.
"Does anyone else know more!:cool:

the FBI was founded to promote the sale of non-descriptive suits...The non-descriptive suite industry was in a slump and something had to be done. Do not believe the bullshit about aliens. This is the real reason

Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
the FBI was founded to promote the sale of non-descriptive suits...The non-descriptive suite industry was in a slump and something had to be done. Do not believe the bullshit about aliens. This is the real reason

They say that bullshit baffles brains....it was the sale of non descriptive tailer made propaganda.....:D :m:

Ihave a feeling this thread has taken a turn into the unknown!!:cool:

Originally posted by DCLXVI
Their chief purpose is to cover up conspiracies involving aliens, or deport illegal aliens, I can't remember what they do exactly but I'm sure it has something to do with aliens. It's all about the aliens.

What sort of aliens....extra-terrestrial aliens..or what!!:D

Isn't the MI-5 within the borders of britain, and the MI-6 spying and stuff? That is what I thought

Originally posted by Lord_Tigersloth
Isn't the MI-5 within the borders of britain, and the MI-6 spying and stuff? That is what I thought

they both spy if need be:cool:

Originally posted by IXL777
Many people have suggested that an attempt to understand the welter of contradictions in the secret services MI5, MI6, CIA, FBI, KGB and so forth is futile..however I find it all fascinating and compelling..
"Does anyone feel the same or have you other ideas?....:cool:
see if we can get back to the theme :cool:

The FBI handles crimes that are interstate. This is in contrast to local police who handle intrastate crimes. FBI are like the local police with more intelligence and more funding. DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency--ha ha title says it all; they enforce the use of drugs in America ;) ) handle federal (interstate) drug trafficking cases. Very sick bastards, in my opinion. Lots of corruption. CIA: scary shit. Training guerilla armies in other countries to terrorize civilians. Kill leaders government doesn't like, etc. Not a good bunch of people. Watch citizens (I think FBI do that too).

Of the three I mentioned, I think I like the FBI the best because they seem the least corrupt :bugeye:

Originally posted by EvelinaAnville
Of the three I mentioned, I think I like the FBI the best because they seem the least corrupt.That's strictly a function of who's in charge. Back when J. Edgar Hoover was head of the FBI (seemed like it lasted about 100 years but I guess it was more like forty) they were a bunch of REALLY bad mothers. They were so bad that they scared themselves. They had files on EVERYBODY so nobody in the government dared challenge their authority, not even the President. They knew all the weird sicko stuff about JFK that is only now trickling out to the general public.

Hoover was a transvestite but he had so much power that nobody leaked that info until he was dead.

Today the FBI isn't so scary. The DEA has all the power and all the crazy cops.

As far as I'm concerned this is just one more example of why communities should not merge and form gigantic political units that present the opportunity for the formation of gigantic governments. Yeah, I know small town cops and city councils can be pains in the butt, but if you don't like the one you live in all you need to be able to escape is a good bicycle. If the country you live in gives you good reason to be paranoid it could be a thousand miles to the next one and there might be guards at the border.

strange

this is the role of the Fedral police (AFP) here: http://www.afp.gov.au/

What does the AFP do?
The AFP enforces Commonwealth criminal law, and protects Commonwealth and national interests from crime in Australia and overseas. The AFP is Australia's international law enforcement and policing representative, and the chief source of advice to the Australian Government on policing issues.

Our Priorities
AFP priorities are set through ministerial direction. Our areas of focus include handling special references from Government, and combating:

organised crime
transnational crime
money laundering
major fraud
illicit drug trafficking
e-crime.
We work closely with other Australian and international law enforcement bodies to enhance safety and security in Australia and to provide a secure regional and global environment. We have an extensive network of liaison officers in more than 20 countries. Our officers contribute to overseas peacekeeping missions.

We provide protection services to dignitaries and crucial witnesses, and community policing services to the people of the Australian Capital Territory, Jervis Bay, and external territories such as Norfolk Island and Christmas Island.



Murders are actully state crimes, its mainly drugs and fraud that the AFP do

they are also the state police for the ACT

Originally posted by EvelinaAnville
The FBI handles crimes that are interstate. This is in contrast to local police who handle intrastate crimes. FBI are like the local police with more intelligence and more funding. DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency--ha ha title says it all; they enforce the use of drugs in America ;) ) handle federal (interstate) drug trafficking cases. Very sick bastards, in my opinion. Lots of corruption. CIA: scary shit. Training guerilla armies in other countries to terrorize civilians. Kill leaders government doesn't like, etc. Not a good bunch of people. Watch citizens (I think FBI do that too).

Of the three I mentioned, I think I like the FBI the best because they seem the least corrupt :bugeye:

thanx Evilina..and Fraggle..Does anyone know antthing about MI-5 MI-6 AND CIA ?...I think they do a very good job under stress.:cool:

Originally posted by EvelinaAnville
The FBI handles crimes that are interstate. This is in contrast to local police who handle intrastate crimes. FBI are like the local police with more intelligence and more funding. DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency--ha ha title says it all; they enforce the use of drugs in America ;) ) handle federal (interstate) drug trafficking cases. Very sick bastards, in my opinion. Lots of corruption. CIA: scary shit. Training guerilla armies in other countries to terrorize civilians. Kill leaders government doesn't like, etc. Not a good bunch of people. Watch citizens (I think FBI do that too).

Of the three I mentioned, I think I like the FBI the best because they seem the least corrupt :bugeye:

thanx Evilina..and Fraggle..Does anyone know antthing about MI-5 MI-6 AND CIA ?...I think they do a very good job under stress.:cool:

Originally posted by EvelinaAnville
The FBI handles crimes that are interstate. This is in contrast to local police who handle intrastate crimes. FBI are like the local police with more intelligence and more funding. DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency--ha ha title says it all; they enforce the use of drugs in America ;) ) handle federal (interstate) drug trafficking cases. Very sick bastards, in my opinion. Lots of corruption. CIA: scary shit. Training guerilla armies in other countries to terrorize civilians. Kill leaders government doesn't like, etc. Not a good bunch of people. Watch citizens (I think FBI do that too).

Of the three I mentioned, I think I like the FBI the best because they seem the least corrupt :bugeye:

thanx Evilina..and Fraggle..Does anyone know antthing about MI-5 MI-6 AND CIA ?...I think they do a very good job under stress.:cool:

Originally posted by Fraggle Rocker
That's strictly a function of who's in charge. Back when J. Edgar Hoover was head of the FBI (seemed like it lasted about 100 years but I guess it was more like forty) they were a bunch of REALLY bad mothers. They were so bad that they scared themselves. They had files on EVERYBODY so nobody in the government dared challenge their authority, not even the President. They knew all the weird sicko stuff about JFK that is only now trickling out to the general public.

Hoover was a transvestite but he had so much power that nobody leaked that info until he was dead.

Today the FBI isn't so scary. The DEA has all the power and all the crazy cops.

As far as I'm concerned this is just one more example of why communities should not merge and form gigantic political units that present the opportunity for the formation of gigantic governments. Yeah, I know small town cops and city councils can be pains in the butt, but if you don't like the one you live in all you need to be able to escape is a good bicycle. If the country you live in gives you good reason to be paranoid it could be a thousand miles to the next one and there might be guards at the border.

does anyone know about MI5 MI6.....I find the secret services compelling...interesting....:cool:

adam can tell you all about ASIS

he keeps saying those guys are scary

Originally posted by Asguard
adam can tell you all about ASIS

he keeps saying those guys are scary

thanx ...Asguard:cool: