Smoking Gun and the Bullets

Nothing was added to these photo's only colorization brightness and contrast.
And there are better people than me from this time on that will be posting them here, they will have better photshop/imaging abilities to show clearer and truer pictures.


Good Luck

This Image is from Pathfinder.. many believe and I am one.. It's structure simular to the sphinx.. Originals available at nasa pathfinder site. E-mail me if you need the link.
http://www.longislandlan.com/sphinx.jpg

Back to Spirit Rover

http://www.longislandlan.com/image1.jpg

http://www.longislandlan.com/displaypia05102.jpg





http://www.longislandlan.com/snakedisplay.jpg
Just a weird looking..
http://www.longislandlan.com/anomalysol56.jpg

What is this supposed to be?

fluid,

No offense, but the photo's are too blurry for me to make out anything.

Actually one_raven, this is documentary proof that fluid1959 doesn't know what perspective is. Of course, he already gave it to us on another thread; he's been throwing this crap for some time now, posting random sections of the Mars rover pictures and saying that they look like skulls and bones and artifacts and things.

Of course he'll now retrench, deny, pretend he was speculating, or (most likely) resort to insults. That is what he has done up until now.

I got it... it's a Martian tortoise... Testudo Aris. No, but seriously, I find the idea of alien skulls on Mars, very intriguing. But we definetly need better photo's.

What it looks like to me. The "ear" on the left side is a shadow cast by the
object. There is a rock on the right side also casting a shadow on the object,
causing the illusion of a neck and "ear." Just shadows. But the object DOES
appear to stick out of the ground. That part looks odd.

Is there something wrong with me, because all I see is still just more completely uninteresting and common rocks.

Also, fluid's little lines and comments on the picture don't seem to make any sense.

You know, if NASA didn't want people to find out about something in MARS they wouldn't paint out part of an image and give it to us, they'd just toss away the image and take another one of just rocks. Duh.

What it looks like to me. The "ear" on the left side is a shadow cast by the
object. There is a rock on the right side also casting a shadow on the object,
causing the illusion of a neck and "ear." Just shadows. But the object DOES
appear to stick out of the ground. That part looks odd.

Why would it sticking out of the ground be odd?

On the one hand you have fragments of meteorite inserting themselves into the ground from being thrown up in the air at impact and on the other hand you have the moving sands on the surface of Mars blown around by winds that could quite easily bury such fragments.

I'm also glad that people are bringing up the main point, If NASA was concealing something then nothing would be released, they wouldn't release edited pictures because there would be no point, why release something if it contained something you were concealing?

Simply the pictures are meshed together like a giant jigsaw puzzle because of the multiple frames from video images being inserted together or multiple single frame shots.

(Note: that means that they would be taken at different time intervals, so a cloud of sand might half appear in one and not another)

Why would it sticking out of the ground be odd?


I'm also glad that people are bringing up the main point, If NASA was concealing something then nothing would be released, they wouldn't release edited pictures because there would be no point, why release something if it contained something you were concealing?

Simply the pictures are meshed together like a giant jigsaw puzzle because of the multiple frames from video images being inserted together or multiple single frame shots.



Exactly, the pictures are meshed together, so if a considerable number were removed, it would rightly raise many more suspicions.

Since the image can genuinely appear, to some, to be raised above the Martian surface...I took the initiative to take a closer look. Under this closer inspection, it appears to be nothing more then an Optical Illusion (caused by the same mental mechanism that allows us to see forms among the constellations of stars, and even faint lines connecting such points of light). This is a fitting conclusion since "Optical Illusion" is the title of this thread...even though Fluid has attempted to make it out to be more then it is.

I offer here my own observation of the matter;

http://wuldortorht.org/ROCKS.bmp

As you can see from this view, it appears that the illusion is created by a series of rocks...one in front of the other (with Rock 2 possibly resting very near or against Rock 3).

I have also managed (using space.com's zoomable Panoramic image of the surface) to locate the area in which the above image was found. If there are any doubts about this, I urge you to visit the website and see for yourself.

http://wuldortorht.org/ROCKS2.bmp

Granted, this image is of much smaller resolution then the image that Fluid has linked to. However, I posted the image just to give readers an actual perspective and sense of scale when pondering the illusion..

Keep fighting the good fight fluid, I'm sure NASA must have shut down the rover because of your tactic of exposing them by flooding the sciforum with your threads. Without people like you we would never know of the Martian army's perfection of the rock cammoflage technique. Look harder people, see the space tanks!

Keep fighting the good fight fluid, I'm sure NASA must have shut down the rover because of your tactic of exposing them by flooding the sciforum with your threads. Without people like you we would never know of the Martian army's perfection of the rock cammoflage technique. Look harder people, see the space tanks!

Dude - that was cruel. But VERY funny.

Barkhorn.

If I'm not mistaken, fluid has gone back and edited his first post with completely different photos. Am I wrong?

If I'm not mistaken, fluid has gone back and edited his first post with completely different photos. Am I wrong?

Who knows, who cares? Fluid is overdrawn at the credibility bank. I shall only participate in Fluid's threads for my own amusement at his expense, I've given up on any any notion of rational exchange.

No, you are correct. He has entirely removed the image by which the entire context of this thread was started.

Look back now..the only place on SciForums to find those particular images are in my reply-posts.

After looking at all these Mars Images

Yep they look just like rocks.... NASA Lies,Deceives
http://www.longislandlan.com/justrocks3.jpg

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All I see is rocks. If you zoom in like that on any image, you'll start to see shapes, and odd pixels, that look like masks. Try it. I would also look to see the original images too, from NASA. Please produce the links for me.

However, 4 particular images did catch my eye:

6th(last) in the right row: I have analyzed this picture in photoshop, on highest zoom, 1600% and lower zooms, 23% and I can see an obvious rectangular shape engraved in the middle of the rock. That really is quite strange. I'm not sure what to make of it.

5th in the right row: The image only has one very obvious oddity. In the soil, there is a very bright speck, as bright as the sky, completely out of place from its surroundings.

2nd in the right row: Everything is fine, but what the hell is that checkered square, and the bright pixel in it. It's again completely out of place from its surroundings.

1st in the left row. I've been looking at this one the most. I'm either looking too much, or it's doctored. If you look carefully at the first large rock, and line its perimeter, you will notice it comes to a abrupt, and what seems to be an unatural end, and then there is a noticable long rectangle pixel of soil that overlaps with the rock, which is out of place, if you continue lining left(partially downwards) from that, the rock's outline continues as if the missing part was never missing at all. The left edge of thar rock seems to be missing, and there is much pixelation and blur around that area.

Just noticed the 4th in the left row, has a right angle triangle rock! Although the hypotenuse is slightly curved.

Yes rocks come in different shapes and sizes.

See Pareidolia.

Hmmm... do a google search on Devil's Postpile, Mono Lake, Yosemite/El Capitan, Zion National Park, Bryce Canyon, Arches National Park ... find some amazingly unusual rock and sediment formations. Completely natural and explainable ... And WAY cooler looking than anything fluid has shown us here.

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/head_garment.jpg

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/rockoutcrop.jpg

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/rockface.jpg
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/rockface1.jpg

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/weatheredpyramid.jpg


these slabs of rock are partially revealed under soil that has been exposed to thousands of years of dry martian winds.

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/freizetablets.jpg

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/037/2N129654764EFF0400P1617R0M1.JPG

Can't imagine what people would think if they saw this type of formation on Mars ...

The Rorschach inkblot test is a psychological projective test of personality in which a subject's interpretations of ten standard abstract designs are analyzed as a measure of emotional and intellectual functioning and integration. The test is named after Hermann Rorschach (1884-1922) who developed the inkblots, although he did not use them for personality analysis.

The test is considered "projective" because the patient is supposed to project his or her real personality into the inkblot via the interpretation. The inkblots are purportedly ambiguous, structureless entities which are to be given a clear structure by the interpreter. Those who believe in the efficacy of such tests think that they are a way of getting into the deepest recesses of the patient's psyche or subconscious mind. Those who give such tests believe themselves to be experts at interpreting their patients' interpretations

Sol74
Pancamera
This rock appears to have a big leaf of metal hanging down..

http://www.longislandlan.com/sol74a.jpg

Sol 68
Pancam I know worked Rocks when I see em.. Could be A curb etc.....

http://www.longislandlan.com/sol68a.jpg

Sol62
Besides the four hole flange in upper right of this object .. notice weird "T" shaped metal object jutting from below
http://www.longislandlan.com/sol62a.jpg

And the complex structure at the top of this object


http://www.longislandlan.com/sol62c.jpg

Sol 68

I am no Geologist but what natural process would turn a rock into a pipe.


http://www.longislandlan.com/sol68f.jpg

And whats the odds that these 2 triangles lined up by themselves?

http://www.longislandlan.com/sol75d.jpg

I grow weary of thee ignorance postulated by this forum. Claiming competence and ignoring all data.


What data? You're showing a picture and saying "See...it looks like ______"

I can show you hundreds of examples of rock formations far more intricate and artificial looking found right here on Earth that are totally natural in their origin.

Don't try to debunk Fluid you monsters! I have proof that he is right (by proof I of course mean an unsupported anecdote) The other day I was walking outside and I saw a giant bunny in a cloud. NASA IS HIDING LARGE BUNNYS IN CLOUDS! How can you ignore Data (by data I am referring to my own feeling of intellectual superiority) like that?

Truly a wise and competent debater you are.

I love when Morons are free to be Moron's

Morons, really? If there is clear evidence of alien civilization, and the cover up of such, then are we stupid nonbelievers here at the sciforms really the ones who you should be trying to convince? Maybe you should move on to more enlightened circles, where people will be smart enough to ignore what their eyes tell them and see the strangeness of the rocks.

http://www.nps.gov/arch/gallery/index.htm
http://www.nps.gov/brca/geology_hoodoos.html
http://www.nps.gov/brca/geology_arches.html

A few examples. Honestly ... if any of these formations appeared on Mars, what would your reaction be?

Hi Fluid, the pictures you posted above do not show anything conclusive, in my opinion. The most odd ones I've seen so far I've already outlined:

Let's examine your new ones then:

1: The brightness of this "leaf of metal" is the same as some of the other rocks in the pictures. It would be silly to say it is metal at this stage.

2: I see nothing too unusual

3: Is it so shocking, there are holes in the rock? The weird T shape object, is just a standing rock if you look closely.

4: That is quite strange, but I don't think it's impossible for it to be formed naturally. The inside of it, looks like it maybe hollowed out, but I think's its just the black circle at the end of it, that gives that illusion. It probably isn't hollowed out.

5: Really nothing there.

But I can really really honestly say.. You don't know crap from shonola........

Heh... And you don't know shonola from shinola

They display no Data but they talk about the data they could/should display..

That makes a strange kind of since, doesn’t it? Because we are not making any claims, we have not brought any evidence. You, on the other hand, make claims with no evidence, and we say "Show us evidence". Am I to interpret your reply as "Show me evidence for why I should show evidence?" it doesn’t lend much credibility to your original claim.

Crazy I realize many objects are in fact .. just rocks.

Even objects I think are objects are just rocks...

But I have over 4000 various images..

And while I try to display a good image.. I leave it up to you to download the actual sol missions and look at the highest quality you can find.. As any of them would be much clearer than any crops I may put forth..

As far as that sol74 alien egg looking rock.. I have never seen anything like it..

And I have looked.. And pardon me for using word metal but it does appear to be a leaf of material .. to me

The first object in upper left looks to be a symbol on the stone/rock/object.. As it is clear even when not zoomed to jpeg artifact size...

Crazy I realize many objects are in fact .. just rocks.

Even objects I think are objects are just rocks...

But I have over 4000 various images..


Are you saying that because you have a lot of pictures of rocks, one of them must have pictures of something that is evidence of alien civilization? I really think you underestimate how many rocks there could really be on the surface of Mars.

Crazy I realize many objects are in fact .. just rocks.


As far as that sol74 alien egg looking rock.. I have never seen anything like it..



How can you say a rock looks like an alien egg when we don't know what alien eggs look like ... or even if they lay eggs?

Well clearly chickens are much more intelegent than humans, and they beat us to Mars and are leaving thier own eggs laying around on the ground. Man, nonbelievers are so stupid.

Nonbelievers aren't stupid just you.... Don't you feel special


Come on chunky
Be honest your mouth probably started watering the minute I posted it..

Uh ... nope.

fluid...is...is...is that a grenade and severed hand??
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/freizetablets.jpg

life... but not as we know it
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/rockface1.jpg

fluid...is...is...is that a grenade and severed hand??
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/freizetablets.jpg

life... but not as we know it
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v62/marsthetruth/rockface1.jpg


Strange images candide ...

What sols I wonder I would like to look myself

"I am no Geologist but what natural process would turn a rock into a pipe."

Ever hear of a lava tube?

yeah chunky; Is that what you see a LAVA tube ?

Or are you trying to impress me. rofl

Honestly I can't say .. since none of them appeared on MARS...

But I can really really honestly say.. You don't know crap from shonola........
So interesting rock formations on Earth are irrelevant but interesting rock formations on Mars are a NASA cover up. (but they didn't edit the photos properly).

Right?

We could simply say Earth is ruled out, because there suppose to be intelligence here ;)

This image from www.keithlaney.com is very interesting, im not sure about the other rocks but the cylindar in the middle look fantastic....

http://www.keithlaney.com/Apollo-digs/AS16-116-18603artifactsbig.jpg

We could simply say Earth is ruled out, because there suppose to be intelligence here ;)

Right. But no one is suggesting that lava tubes, hoodoos, "Devil's postpiles," arch windows, etc. on Earth are anything but completely natural phenomena. Why is it acceptable to accpet these amazing looking things as natural here, but anything that sort of looks kind of like a triangle or a tube or a letter T, in harsh light in a grainy, cropped digital photograph is likely to be artificial and evidence of intelligent life on Mars?

Star_One on earth that might look like something plowed windshield first into the ground.

More just Rocks

http://www.longislandlan.com/justrocks6.jpg

More just rocks..

http://www.longislandlan.com/justrocks4.jpg

Just a rock ....

Now you got it fluid! They ARE just rocks! Because rocks can break and erode into odd looking shapes they may look unnatural to folks who go out of their way to look for unnatural objects.

Too bad this science forum can't get some heads to break into some brains....

Fluid, you haven't really commented about the interesting naturally formed rock formations on Earth. Would acknowledging these make you conspiracy theory seem a bit shaky?

Chunky,

I really do not think any of the rock formations posted so far are evidence for Life on Mars. However, there is one image, and something even Fluid has ignored, that seems very strange; back on page 1, in the 2nd set of pictures Fluid posted.

6th(last) in the right row: I have analyzed this picture in photoshop, on highest zoom, 1600% and lower zooms, 23% and I can see an obvious rectangular shape engraved in the middle of the rock. That really is quite strange. I'm not sure what to make of it.

What do you think of that? Surely that's not natural erosion!

Not really seeing anything there. May have to post it and point it out more clearly.
Understand, natural factors of erosion and so forth are only part of the problem in determining the nature of these rocks. The infamous "face" of Cydonia is a perfect example of how light and shadow and viewing angle and such can make things look totally different from their actual appearance.

The other day I was walking to school and on the ground I saw a rock. NASA has some explaining to do. How did a rock end up on earth? The Martians are clearly trying to invade and NASA is covering up

Rocks, wow, mars is covered with them, who'd have thought it.... :rolleyes:

So fluid, remember when you posted a picture of earth, and I showed you the same exact rocks in THAT picture? Why are rocks on mars suddenly a hoax. Do you believe in the segregation of rock and sand?

All these martian rock stuff and some :m: is getting me stoned. I think all those small rocks are probably from an ancient prison colony, if you look at the rocks hard enough they appear to have been made from bigger rocks.

Rock on guys.

Just Rocks. You llamas

Just Rocks.. Now if you had just brains. We could begin..

http://www.longislandlan.com/justrocks.jpg

That's a mouse, a pteradactyl, and a horse with a hat on.
Next?

Fluid, honestly, I see absolutely nothing in every picture you've posted so far. Except for the last one on the right. Which I've already said, is the only one, that seems strange.

That's a mouse, a pteradactyl, and a horse with a hat on.
Next?
Lmao, personally i thought it was a dog wearing the hat ;)

http://www.atomicagedog.com/log/images/108.jpg

Whoa. Simply amazing. I think that they could only have been created by alien architects. :eek:

Oh whoops, we're only allowed to play this game with pictures of mars? Dangit. ;)

fluid's rocks are different.

http://www.longislandlan.com/justrocks4.jpg
OMG DOESNT THE SECOND TO LAST PICTURE LOOK LIKE A OLD LADY WITH A LONG NOSE PUSHING A CARRIAGE/STROLLER?? :eek: :eek:THIS FREAKS ME OUT!!!!!!!!!!! I'M GONNA HAVE NIIIIIIIIIGHTMARES!!!!! :eek:

see, different.

But technically the same Candide, or don't you get it either. Rocks can form in all sorts of ways and they can weather in even more patterns....here AND Mars. Just because it looks weird on Mars doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial. Ozymandias was proving that point.

Here are some other examples:

http://www.dailypress.com/travel/dp-travel-adobetownpic,0,4086406.photo?coll=dp-travel-utility

http://www.kaibab.org/tr952/gc952095.htm

http://community.webshots.com/photo/51827813/52357749vnaEPc

http://travel.iafrica.com/getaways/153879.htm

http://aku-aku.com/html/southwest/sw4r_022.html

http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/dinos/utah2kweb/fantasy_canyon/fantasy6-lotsburrows.jpeg

fluid's rocks are different.
yeah, they're all in black and white and less interesting. ;)

As there is no "discussion" being provided by the thread-starter; closed.