Do ancient unexplained artifacts and high technology potentially provide evidence of pre-flood civilizations? Do 800 Billion fossils of all types in the Karoo Bone yards provide additional evidence of a worldwide flood? Does the Bible mention dinosaurs? Is there an easy explanation for fitting dinosaurs on the ark? Is there a reason that scientists cannot do on purpose in the lab what they claim happened by accident? Is evolution the worst theory ever to fit known facts?--

Is there evidence that dinosaurs did co-exist with men in agreement with the Bible and in opposition to the theory of evolution? Do Giant versions of some of today's plant, insects, animals and "Mega" Men prove a stumbling block for evolutionary theories?

Hello! Is there an unmistakable Message (from God) in the cells of every living thing?

YES!
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Mmmmm....no.

These supposed petroglyphs seem to be verifiably mentioned in only one source, which happens to be the website. The author claims they were mentioned in many newspapers, yet fails to cite even one example. While the human figures click with the artisitic style of the period, the animal images do not.

The Ancient Egyptian glider is one ting, but the image of the so-called helicopter has been proven to be from a clay tablet that shows signs of new heiroglyphs being written over older ones, leaving stylized images that a hundred years ago would have been interpretted as something else entirely.

As for the flood, there is no evidence of a massive body of water covering the whole planet at one time in human history. Certain parts of it got flooded, but not the whole thing. I consider the story of Noah an exagerration of a historic fact. Something as traumatic as a flash flood that wipes out your village is going to tend to blow itself out of proportion. (Ask me about the time the truck with the mile-wide grill plowed into my car. I swear, it had teeth! ;))

You have asked a lot of questions, but posted only links as your answers. Can you quote anything from those links that might convince me otherwise?

Enough of your crap!


See here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

OH BOY HERE WE GO!!!! :)
Anyone bring the popcorn? :) :) :)

Can any Christian really (with a straight face) sit there and tell us that the Old Testament is a literal account of history?

There is a lot of history in the bible, but there are also a lot of myths.

I can, to the best of my knowledge. I mean I do not know about a lot of the stuff in the OT as it is large and contains a lot of history. I read it all but I am more fluent in the New Testament as a lot of it is a little more relevant to my Christian faith.

But I can tell you about the flood being history and not myth nor an "an exagerration of a historic fact" as Oxygen suggested. I am sorry modern translations and most Christians tell you of a global flood. The best literal interpretation of the Hebrew texts reveals a localized flood. In my Niv study bible it mentions the fact in the foot notes that there is a dispute as to the extent of the Genesis flood. The popular picture of Noah leading Giraffes and dinosaurs and Polar Bears on the ark is not true. If you have any questions about the flood I will try my best to answer them. Most of my info comes from a book I read called the Genesis Question. The chapters that discuss the flood are actually available online. If you have some time you can check this out: http://www.reasons.org/resources/books/genesisquestion/gq18.html

Here is a quote from that talkorigin page posted by infinity (I use some of that stuff when discussing the flood with young-earthers):

"Two kinds of flood model are not addressed here. First is the local flood. Genesis 6-8 can be interpreted as a homiletic story such that the "world" that was flooded was just the area that Noah knew. Creationists argue against the local flood model because it doesn't fit their own literalist preconceptions, but I know of no physical evidence contrary to such a model."

I think only the first argument, aside from a few minor things, on that page can really be applied to the local flood. As the title suggests, the rest pretty much concentrates on the problems with a Global Flood. There are many...

Peace,
Vinnie

Bah!

Thumbs down for you.

How can you possibly say that one part of the bible is more relevant then any other?

Whether or not you believe in Jesus (I do not), one of the things he emphatically stated was that he had not come to supersede the Old Testament in ANY way...He was a devout Jew, and so were his followers (until Paul came along, that is).

In the Sermon on the mount he even commands christians to follow Old Testament law.

I do not discredit the Old Testament. Todays method of SALVATION which is one, if not the most important Christian doctrine is given in the New Testament. Thats why I try to focus more on the New Testament and things like the Deity of Christ, the Incarnation, the Atonement and the Resurrection etc.
The New testament (actually the Old Testament as well considering that the entire bible is Christocentric) is all about that Jesus guy through whom comes salvation. Thats why I deemed a lot of it "more relevant to my Christian faith."

Peace,
Vinnie

Hi Guys,

The way I see it generally is that the NT tells us about salvation through Jesus, and the OT tells us what we're being saved from and why. When you look at the comparison between the two, the wages of sin becomes apparent, God's infinite grace becomes apparent, the gift becomes apparent, and the all-encompassing importance and purpose of Jesus Christ becomes apparent. My two cents. Have a nice day! :)

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Lori, thats why I said the Bible is Christocentric ;)

"Finally, and most important, among all the people described in the Bible, the leading character throughout is the one, true, living God made known through Jesus Christ. Consider first the old testament: The Law provides the "foundation for Christ," the historical books show the "preparation" for Christ, the poetical works aspire to Christ, and the phrophecies display an "expectaion" of Christ." (NETDAV McDowell, pg 6)

"In the New Testament, the "Gospels...record the historical manifestation of Christ, the Acts relate the propagation of Christ, the Epistles give the interpretation of Him, and in Revelation is found the consummation of all things in Christ." (Geisler/Nix, GIB '86, 29)

Peace,
Vinnie