yeah I think most of you in Canada who watch the news has already heard about the banning of all junk food (candy bars, soft drink, potato chips, etc) in all elementary schools, and they are projecting to do the same to high schools (butmany officials object).

So what do you think? should we blame the rising obesity in Canada entirely and solely on junk food?

It is a good idea!!
I personally would like to see the Japanese school diet introduced here!!
Pepsi and Coke and so on can take a hike from the schools. GREAT IDEA!

I think that there is a very fine line that the government should draw about how parents raise children. It is not the governments job to tell parents how to feed their children. They need to focus on bigger things... like say... education maybe? They should focus on decreasing the rising dropout rate in Ontario.

What a waste of tax payer money on a trivial thing.

But if you have a healthcare plan that covers illnesses associated with obesity then everyone’s premiums go up. America just acknowledged obesity as a disease, so maybe we will start to do the same.

It is the same question as drugs: at what point does the government have the right to tell people how to live? People, in general, are stupid and need guidance. I think that they should ban junk food in schools.

Canada has a public healthcare system. Premiums don't go up, taxes do.

However, do you believe it's okay for the government to tell you what books you are allowed to give your children to read? How about what TV shows and movies you allow your children to watch? Should the government be responsible for how you raise your child, or should you as a parent?

I agree people are stupid, but people should also be given the right to make their own mistakes.

They can do whatever they want out of school, but as long as they are in school they should not eat junk food so much. My high school had a lot of over weight people; they ate pizza covered with ranch dressing for lunch nearly every day.

Do you think all drugs should be legal? Crack? H? You have to draw the line somewhere.

Yes, I do think all drugs should be legal. If they want to be stupid enough to kill themselves on drugs, then it's one less person on welfare and unemployment clogging up our tax system with laziness and stupidity. Likewise, people who are fat and stupid will start to get the idea when they have their first heart attack, or major health problem. They learn eventually, but banning something that is okay for people in moderation because a few people are too stupid to moderate is always a bad idea.

You should draw the line on infringing on other peoples right to be stupid.

I applaud to Canada!
junk food = junk people = trash
huge blobs of fat browsing through the streets, nothing can be more disgusting nowadays
can not run, can not jump, can not hike, can not fight
what use of such pathetic crowd?
save the people!

Why not just have the teacher or principal of the globulal offspring of irresponsible parenting write a note asking them not to send their children to school with junk food?

Why do we waste time passing stupid laws that only limit the rights of the not-so-stupid?

yeah I think most of you in Canada who watch the news has already heard about the banning of all junk food (candy bars, soft drink, potato chips, etc) in all elementary schools, and they are projecting to do the same to high schools (butmany officials object).

So what do you think? should we blame the rising obesity in Canada entirely and solely on junk food?

No, we can blame it on dysgenic practices brought on by modern society and rampaging, self-righteous Canadian liberalism.

This is the only good thing I've ever heard out of Canada besides some NSBM and death metal. Junk food is a plague and I don't want my taxes to have to pay for its effects. Then again, I'd rather simply pick off those who are addicted to unhealthy lifestyles and have a population the earth can support.

how exactly prohibiting to sell junk food is taking a chunk out of state's budget?
simply sell other, more healthier food

Are they trying to ban kids from bringing junk food to school? If so, I'd have to disagree.

If they're trying to ban schools from selling junk food from campus vending machines and caffeterias, then I'm all for that. The schools should promote healthy living and provide healthy food options, not trash. While they are at it, they should increase the time kids spend in the gym (tv told me it was 40min 2 times a week in public school).

yeah they are banning junk food from vending machines, but others could argue that the problem is not high-energy foods like chips and candy bars, the problem is students don't use the consumed energy, physical inactivity rates have gone way down and obesity rates way up, and they could say that schools could use the profit earned from the vending machines (major source of finance for many schools) and promote physical activity programs, which can solve the real problem

however.. if the students don't eat junk food in the first place they migth not need any additional physical acticities
p.s. junk food has also its' "unhealthy" factor to it, not just high energy properties

however.. if the students don't eat junk food in the first place they migth not need any additional physical acticities
p.s. junk food has also its' "unhealthy" factor to it, not just high energy properties


No, they need excercise anyway. Supposed to get something like 30 minutes at least every other day to keep your heart healthy, some of it intense - even with a good diet. Especially when you are young, because it helps set your metabolic pattern.

yeah, you're right. but I still see that funding sports activities from feeding children with junk food is morally corrupt. the same like giving poison and then gifting medicine. and junk food has more ill effects than simple sports activities can cure. (runaway metabolism, blood damage, etc)// They need to fund sports activities, but from other sources. Double gain and twice more healthier.

p.s. I'm into martial arts since 13 and haven't eaten any junk food at all since 15. There is no need for it. You can eat healthy and tasty food that is other than burgers and potato chips.

Why do we waste time passing stupid laws that only limit the rights of the not-so-stupid?

I agree. It is well-known that it's not the junkfood itself that makes one sick; it is the ammount of junkfood eaten in some time. All food is fine, in moderate amounts. Besides, diet should be a choice.
What I could never understand is why one is not allowed the right to get ill by choice, given that the illness is not contageous.

interests of society
if too much people of the society become overweight then suffers the whole society, its' productivity and the costs of national social care system would increase dramatically
fat people work less, need additional care and die faster

besides... just look at this pic.. :p

http://media1.funnyjunk.com/pics/euro_vs_america.jpg

just tax junk food like crazy. Tax it as you would tax sigarettes. Then healthy food immediately becomes more attractive and the state has some extra income to spend on public heath care.

disclaimer: this wouldn't work in the US of course for obvious reasons.

BTW, I have seen many overweight people in Germany. Tsk-tsk-tsk. Also, American skinny people are skinnier than European skinny people, and ours are much more fit.

Fat people go to work; I've seen many who are quite neat and take care of themselves well.

I read a newspaper article explaining the food problem. In poor neighborhoods in NYC (at least), healthy food is more expensive than fast food in diners like McDonalds, Blimpie's, etc. Ridiculous, you may think, but true.

If the gov't thinks for its people even when it comes to diet, it deliberately takes the brains out of its people's heads. The result will eventually be the worst nightmare of American government.

And quit posting that pic with girls' asses hanging out.

you mean this pic?

http://media1.funnyjunk.com/pics/euro_vs_america.jpg

Well, you won't do it again.

..fingers ..itching... aaghr!

Victory. Quite unexpected of you, really.

I didn't want to ruin my exellent non-spammer reputation here.

how exactly prohibiting to sell junk food is taking a chunk out of state's budget?
simply sell other, more healthier food

Junk food probably has a higher value-added (taxable) value.

Yes, I do think all drugs should be legal. If they want to be stupid enough to kill themselves on drugs, then it's one less person on welfare and unemployment clogging up our tax system with laziness and stupidity. Likewise, people who are fat and stupid will start to get the idea when they have their first heart attack, or major health problem. They learn eventually, but banning something that is okay for people in moderation because a few people are too stupid to moderate is always a bad idea

no offense...but, you are a *expletive deleted* moron when it comes to understanding people. they wont kill them selves, they will only lose their ambition, and thus are more likely to go on welfare. moreover, laziness and stupidity cannot be cured by allowing more drugs. I think drugs should be legalized IF AND ONLY IF there is chemical dependency blocking drugs mixed in with them. however, even if they no longer use it they will be stupefied for the rest of their lives. have you ever met an ex-heroin addict? I have. have you ever spent any time with crackheads? I have. have you ever spent time with butane huffers? I have. none of these people are what I would want my society to be composed of. I don’t see how you can possibly think that you would make the economy better by legalizing drugs. It’s asinine to entertain the idea.

no offense...but, you are a *expletive deleted* moron when it comes to understanding people. they wont kill them selves, they will only lose their ambition, and thus are more likely to go on welfare.

Then fix our employment system so not every job is insane, and stop welfare.

Right... I'm going to ignore the ad hom and skip the bullshit and get straight to the point.

We should legalize drugs and stop tying up our judicial system with petty possession cases and our prisons from being over-crowded with non-violent offenders who never harmed anyone but themselves. Your argument that we would be spending less money by leaving these people on welfare is completely flawed, in that every petty drug case on average costs the court system around $162,000 in fees, staff and incarceration period. We could treat them at a clinic, either outpatient or hospitalization for around $20k for a two month stay. That is less than welfare, and less than incarceration. And, it has the potential to offer the person a fresh start and the ability to take responsibility for their lives.

Secondly, I think that anyone who tests positive for habitual drug use should be offered a treatment program, or be completely cut off from receiving aid of any kind, welfare or otherwise. But I also believe that most homelss people should be treated in a mental health facility to check them for mental problems, and then help them get a start. It's not about the economy, it's about helping people. Recognizing who our users are, is much more effective then letting them burn their brains out on huffing or what have you.

Also, it decriminalizes the recreational user that only smokes on occasion and wants a clean drug supply. I could effectively halt the spread of AIDS through drug use, and it could help people who are ill get over some symptoms like nausea and vomiting, arthritis and heart ailments. There are benefits to certain drugs that our currently illegal, but medicine is not allow to touch them because of the bloody liberals who cry about the victims of drug abuse, but who don't want to do jack shit about it.

As for whether or not I have ever known a drug addict, I am a recovering meth addict myself. Clean for six years now and a sponsor for four other women in my area. You assume I am stupid and ignorant, but I am well aware of the effects of drugs and alcohol. There is a way to curtail and even stop the abuse, but it doesn't start by making the person into a criminal.

Your argument that we would be spending less money by leaving these people on welfare is completely flawed.
I didn’t say it would cost less money, I meant that the productivity of most workers will go down the drain.(the ones on downers)

to check them for mental problems, and then help them get a start
crackheads and heroin addicts have major mental problems after do drugs for a while.

There are benefits to certain drugs that our currently illegal
no argument there, however crack, heroin, butane, ect are bad.

As for whether or not I have ever known a drug addict, I am a recovering meth addict myself. Clean for six years now and a sponsor for four other women in my area. You assume I am stupid and ignorant, but I am well aware of the effects of drugs and alcohol. There is a way to curtail and even stop the abuse, but it doesn't start by making the person into a criminal.
meth is fine also, it does not hurt other people(as much). my cousin did all kinds of drugs and now he is in and out of jail because he does things like... walking down the road naked with a gun in his hand.

the bottom line is: not all drugs should be legal. you can't have a nation of heroin addicts and expect them to somehow magically not lay on the floor for a week at a time and go out to find meaningful work. yes it cost less to have it legal, but the economy is more than just court cost. you have to have productive people. if hard drugs, like heroin, are cheap the people will only want to work enough to get the next days supply, and have no care about the rest of the world.

p.s. I dont follow what you are saying neoclassical
p.p.s. that was not "ad hom" your arguments show that you dont undersatnd people, however I was simply trying to get a rise out of you.(looks like it worked)

Calling someone a f'ing moron is an ad hom. And I think I went on to prove that your assumtions were incorrect and illogical, and that I do understand people quite well. You didn't "get a rise" out of me, I was just debating your ignorant assumptions. I don't anger that easily, I just chose to ignore your rudeness and childlike behavior.

a. sorry if you took it seriously, it was meant to be funny.(want me to go back and put a smiley in there?)
b. it was not ad hom because I criticized your understanding of people, which was the whole basis of your argument. if I said you were stupid in general then it would be ad homonym. just like you saying "your ignorant assumptions" is not add hom
c. how are my arguments wrong? don’t debate my remarks, debate my argument. that is what’s called a "straw man"

Now Canada wants to ban all foods that contain Trans Fat. What the hell man....what are we gonna eat? Broccli....I don't want to become a vegitarian....I like my red meat and the occational bag of potatoe chips.

Whats next....

Now Canada wants to ban all foods that contain Trans Fat. What the hell man....what are we gonna eat? Broccli....I don't want to become a vegitarian....I like my red meat and the occational bag of potatoe chips.

Whats next....It’s the sort of dilemma that you run into when you socialize everything. In the U.S. we would say that you’re free to eat junk food if you want, since you aren’t hurting anyone but yourself. In Canada, where all healthcare is socialized (did you know that it’s actually illegal to sell private health insurance in Canada?) everyone ends of paying your medical bills if you ruin your body with junk food and inactivity.

One word will save us. Tofu! I eat this all the time~~ Yum. Ever had hiyako or Mapodofu? they are truely the best tofu dishes around! We Japanese and especially the okinawans are the longest living people around with people as old as 120 years. Follow our diet and you will be healthier and your brains will be healthier too!

Eating tofu is like eating pencil erasers. You can live eating that excrement... but I can't understand how anyone could have any joy in that lifetime. Just sit there as your souls are gradually sucked out and life becomes a burden rather than a joy.

And don't even get me started on bran.

everyone ends of paying your medical bills if you ruin your body with junk food and inactivity.
Tax percentage is constant. It's not like when someone gets sick the gov't goes like: "Ok, let's all contribute here...." So, that's bad reasoning.
In US, it's not a choice when junk food is cheaper than healthy food, and organic food is most expensive.
Plus, fat and skinny is in society's preference. Some communities like skeleton-skinny girls, others prefer girls that are more round.

Tax percentage is constant. It's not like when someone gets sick the gov't goes like: "Ok, let's all contribute here...." So, that's bad reasoning.It results in an over-all decrease in healthcare quality for every one because of the longer waits, less money for other things, etc.In US, it's not a choice when junk food is cheaper than healthy food, and organic food is most expensive.Junk food is not cheaper than healthy food. You can create large, healthy meals for an entire family for only a few dollars/meal with healthy food from the grocery store. Remember, we're not talking about fat-free organic soy burgers here; just eating normal food rather than french-fries and twinkies.Plus, fat and skinny is in society's preference. Some communities like skeleton-skinny girls, others prefer girls that are more round.This is true. However, the issue here isn't about aesthetic preferences - it's about junk food causing people to be unhealthy in a society where everyone has to pay for everyone else's mistakes.

Junk food is not cheaper than healthy food. You can create large, healthy meals for an entire family for only a few dollars/meal with healthy food from the grocery store

Ha. Ha. That's what normal people expect. In my college, a cup of cereal with milk is $.97, while a bag of chips is $.55-$.75. Plus, I read an article which said that in some NYC neighborhoods it is cheaper to eat in McDonalds than to buy healthy regular food (I'm not sure the article was right, it was a translation from somewhere). Perhaps it's not so in Canada.
Well, for me, such price differences aren't substantial, really, and I eat only house food. But for some people it may be a problem.

Omg what the hell is your problem are you Blind or something,?!? europeans are like way prettier and way hotter than americans, you people keep dreaming in the ideal country that you think america is but most of its people are fat obbese gross people, seriously the rest of the world still thinks that america is the country of fat stinky people, and "Btw" the pic is reality, all american people eat is MC donalds, my advice... WATCH SUPERSIZE ME!!! Maybe, it'll snap you out of it. GET REAL BITCH!

What the hell?? you druggy person, do u think its okay for teens to smoke and do drugs?? Well it so not! and if you want to make drugs legal, then i hope you die! bitch.. btw... are you like a narc or something???

are you gay white wolf??? cuz, what kinda guy doesnt like to see girls asses hanging out?

She's a girl, idiot(!).

What the hell?? you druggy person, do u think its okay for teens to smoke and do drugs?? Well it so not! and if you want to make drugs legal, then i hope you die! bitch.. btw... are you like a narc or something???

YOU ARE

Omg what the hell is your problem are you Blind or something,?!? europeans are like way prettier and way hotter than americans, you people keep dreaming in the ideal country that you think america is but most of its people are fat obbese gross people, seriously the rest of the world still thinks that america is the country of fat stinky people, and "Btw" the pic is reality, all american people eat is MC donalds, my advice... WATCH SUPERSIZE ME!!! Maybe, it'll snap you out of it. GET REAL BITCH!

A PSYCHO

are you gay white wolf??? cuz, what kinda guy doesnt like to see girls asses hanging out?

NUTCASE!!!!!

If teens don't have parents who notice their drugged out behavior, it's better they take drugs and die young.

I say ban junk food, mainly because of all the stupid plastic wrappers that choke wildlife. And shoot anyone in the face who objects.

I say ban junk food at least because it is another corporate scam to empty wallets.

What kind of monkey is it where the female's buttocks swell when she's in her ripe mating period? I remember seeing a program some very long time ago but, as always, I forgot all names and dates.

its a baboon, the ones with the largest asses get picked for mating.

looks like americans would do well as baboons :p

Ah, but the baboon behaviour isn't exclusively Amerikan! It is when a female sticks her buttocks out for the evaluation by the male that primate behaviour is revealed. The male evaluates and, if satisfied, proceeds to exhibit residue of primate grooming behaviour: searching out fleas with his lips and hands in his mate's mouth and body. The male forgets that much of the fur in which fleas could be found is no longer there; nonetheless, his mate enjoys and does the same to him. They search for fleas in most peculiar body parts, and then.... Voila.

True, the latter examples of primate behaviour have been around throughout human history. However, the exposition of buttocks for evaluation is a recent phenomenon that, unfortunately, as illustrated by the diagram in this thread, has spread to Europe as well.