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Sorry i only just found your thread (never thought anyone cared that much to make a thread TO me) First off DP is illegal under Australian Law Second i we do have to respect Aboriginal calture Third I don't think anything like this has ever happend before So id have to say i'd HATE to be the High court Justice but i don't think this will get through
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If I saw some dumb bastard starting a fire on a hot dry day out in the bush and threatening to start huge bushfires all over again, I'd stamp it out too. And I'd punch the sucker in the nose for luck.
I don't know what time of year it was, but in summer-ish times, Canberra is surrounded by zillions of miles of dry brown grass, tall grass. And forests. Perfect for fires. The same stuff we saw burning all over NSW recently. Just re-read it. Happened in July. Probably safe then. Maybe the guy didn't have a permit for burning in public. But still, the cop might have handled it in a nicer manner. Does it deserve a spear? Not even close. That's all just one guy being a smart-arse crusader for his cause.
i happen to agree that no-one deserves death and i don't think it will get through the high court (because it is murder to kill under Australian law and the High court isn't exempt from that) but a lot of people will think we should respect Aboriginal Law and culture. As funny as this issue may seem it could turn out to be a very important and heated one. If the High court rules in favor of the cop then Aboriginals could see it as opression and if the High court rules infavor of the Aboriginals well I don't know where THAT would lead.
Hey odin do you live in south hall? I am not sure if I am spelling it right. Or where lots of asians live, I have been to this place in london and they had all kind of asian ( sub continental foods ). And lots of strange sweet shops. Sorry little off topic but I was just crious.
I wonder if they know just how totally stupid they look. The sooner they get over their childish little vendetta the better off they - and the rest of us - will be. we're looking at a race of people here who have somehow gotten he idea that if we just leave them alone they'll be able to live in the past as they always used to do... and that their silly archaic little traditions will somehow be applied to us. Like... er... spearing each other Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! None of the present (white) generation had anything to do with their past problems, and we certainly arent trying to exascerbate them now. and yet, we are "somehow" to blame. Please excuse me for not feeling guilty... the idea that somehow the sins of the father should be visited upon the son seems to me to be ludicrous and i refuse to subscribe to it. The tent embassy - any other government in the world would have got rid of THAT little eyesore by now... except us. It achieves nothing, for the Aboriginals or for us, and yet they persist... Land rights? sure, we'll give them land rights... and hey, now we've set us a nice little precedent, I think me being a 5th generation white english settler, I'll go and claim me a big chunk of Somerset, England. Hell, my ancestros used to hunt and worship there didnt they? c'mon queenie dear, hand it over like a good girl... How pathetic. the funniest part is, they STILL cant figure out why we all dislike them so much...
beg to differ This was there land and we INVADED it. We changed there sociaty and Laws by imposing our own onto THEM. I don't think it will get through but i don't know that it would be a BAD thing if it did. I disagree with alot of US laws to but i don't impose ours over there's and we DID that to the Aboriginals. These are not imagrents who CHOSE to come here and live under our laws these are the original inhabatents and maybe if WE want to live here we SHOULD live under there laws. For starters we wouldn't have as many indangered anamals and plants because they have managed to live WITH nature not AGAINST it like we do
Re: beg to differ Maybe you did, but I certainly didn't. Who is this "we", white man? Before Europeans ever got here, various native Australian tribes were warring and raping and pillaging. They never had one continent-spanning peace-loving culture. They kicked each other's arses for 40,000 or more years before Europeans got here. Why the hell should people of European ancestry be blamed?
Markx No,I do not live in Southall.Although most of South London is much the same. The funny little sweet shops that you talk of,came into being after the Asians where kicked out of Africa by Ade Amin. They came to this country & bought up the shops & sort of turned them into shops a bit like they had in Africa.ie sold everything. I am not anti Asian,or any other race,There are different levels of people all over the world.ie good & bad in all peoples. It seems to me that the young of mind want to impose what they want on everyone else. In my opinion all Religions are just power groups,& are after controlling everyone, whether it be Christians or Muslims. I have in the past had very close Asian friends who were very nice people,but as one moves around & friends move around,friends change.That's what happened to me. Ie some went off to university,some emigrated to Australia ect ect. I notice you do not put your location on your posts.Where are you?Just curiosity! Southall is West London by the way.
I'm sorry Asguard, but I am not "we". I wasnt there. If my grandfather's father had something to do with that, then thats his problem, NOT mine. I refuse to allow some modern do-gooders impose a sentence of guilt on me which i have done NOTHING to deserve (except perhaps post my general dislike of this sort of guano in these and other forums). I mean crikey, is England gonna kick out all the norman invaders that landed there a few hundred years ago? the saxons had a nice little culture all of their own before those axe-swinging guys arrived huh. Or before even that.... the Saxons invaded the Celts and destroyed something which was by most accounts a fairly rich culture, little of which remains today. Do we see their descendants whinging and moaning about what they lost and claiming full rights to say, Glastonbury Tor? Stonehenge? Nope. why? because that was HISTORY and had nothing to do with the present day inhabitants of England, REGARDLESS of what their ancestry is. Hell, while we're at it let's carve a big chunk out of North Africa and give it to the Jews, they used to worship there and.... oh wait, thats already been done hasnt it... and didnt THAT little expriment work out well :bugeye: We need to move onward into the future, as ONE nation... not divide ourselves into those who get free land because they happen to be black, and those who have to work for it because their great grandaddy did a bad, bad thing. The only way all of this is going to be forgotten is for the whole country to be one country, not segregated by law into black and white. and that, my friend, is never going to happen while some get freebies on the basis of colour alone. Simple. Respect for Aboriginal culture is something which I do have... as it was several hundred years ago. However, i also respect the culture of the Celts, Native Americans, Saxons, Egyptians, Jews, Romans, Greeks, and whoever else you might care to name. Having respect for a culture is a long way removed from saying it should be imposed on modern day society though. Do you think the Italians would be impressed if they revived the Colloseum and fed slaves to the lions? Respect is a commodity which must be earned, not applied to a group of people because some judge ordered it to be so. And so far, they havent, as a people in general, earned mine. time may change that, I sincerely hope...
Oh, and on the topic of them living with nature.... Perhaps this is to some extent true (Although there is very little evidence to back up a statement like that... they lived off the land, yes, but "with" nature? unknown. It takes a little more than nomadically following around the 'Roos and doing the odd bit of fishing to qualify as "living with nature"). But of course, at their peak there were how many? 50,000? A million? tops? I'm not entirely certain what contemporary research puts the largest Aboriginal population at before white settlement, but it cant have been too many. Lets see that population expanding to say, 20-odd million and see how things would have gone. I think perhaps in that case nature may have groaned a little....
Re: Markx Hey odin, Sorry for late reply. I live in US, California. I spend some time in London during 1988 and 1991. I lived in edgware rd area. I have seen lots of places there and I like that area by wimbely? If I am spelling it right? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! . I had really good time while I was there. Shepherds bush is another place I remember because of open market they had and you can buy anything there and vrey cheap. I did notice that there was a huge population of south asians there, indians and pakistanis and bangladesh. I am not sure how it is now but they had some good spicy food places there. And I understand what you said about religions and people. Also I like to point out that Birtish and other european medias are very open and less BS in them then there is here. Anyways I hope you know what I mean. People rely on media a lot and media feed them what ever the gov. wants. It is not that free afterall.
