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S.A.M.
12-02-07, 10:14 AM
Are we all in too much of a hurry these days?

Is patience a thing of the past?

As Kabir says (http://www.boloji.com/kabir/dohas/kd5.htm),

Dheere Dheere Re Mana, Dheere Sub Kutch Hoye
Mali Seenche So Ghara, Ritu Aaye Phal Hoye


Slowly slowly O mind, everything in own pace happens
Gardner may water a hundred buckets, fruit arrives only in its season

Orleander
12-02-07, 10:17 AM
I have no patience what-so-ever. I never have. I want things done NOW
If I get everything done NOW, I have time to do the stuff I want. If my family gets everything done NOW, we have time to do fun stuff.
If I do everything NOW, I never have to remember what I haven't done.

sandy
12-02-07, 10:18 AM
Probably. The guy behind me at the market yesterday almost had a meltdown because the checker had to do a price check on someone's item. And driving in traffic can be a whole other war.

I think people get impatient when they take their eyes/thoughts off of what is really important in life.

Patience is a virtue. Many of us need more of it. :)

cosmictraveler
12-02-07, 10:21 AM
[Very slowly]
Beep beep beep beep
His horn went beep beep beep
While riding in my Cadillac
What to my surprise
A little Nash Rambler was following me
About one third my size
The guy musta wanted to pass me up
As he kept on tooting his horn
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn
Beep beep beep beep
His horn went beep beep beep

[Slowly]
I pushed my foot down to the floor
To give the guy the shake
But the little Nash Rambler stayed right behind
He still had on his brake
He musta thought his car had more guts
As he kept on tooting his horn (beep beep)
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn
Beep beep beep beep
His horn went beep beep beep

[Normal speed]
My car went into passing gear
And we took off with gust (whoosh)
Soon we were going ninety
Musta left him in the dust
When I peeked in the mirror of my car
I couldn't believe my eyes
The little Nash Rambler was right behind
You'd think that guy could fly
Beep beep beep beep
His horn went beep beep beep

[Quickly]
Now we were doing a hundred and ten
This certainly was a race
For a Rambler to pass a Caddy
Would be a big disgrace
The guy musta wanted to pass me up
As he kept on tooting his horn (beep beep)
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn
Beep beep beep beep
His horn went beep beep beep

[Very quickly]
Now we're going a hundred twenty
As fast as I can go
The Rambler pulled along side of me
As if we were going slow
The fella rolled down his window
And yelled for me to hear
"Hey buddy how do I get this car outa second gear?"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D4W7oZBhAJg

Ripley
12-02-07, 10:54 AM
I have no patience what-so-ever. I never have. I want things done NOW
If I get everything done NOW, I have time to do the stuff I want. If my family gets everything done NOW, we have time to do fun stuff.
If I do everything NOW, I never have to remember what I haven't done.But aren't you reserving your patience for the fun afterwards while drudging the chores out of the way?

pjdude1219
12-02-07, 10:56 AM
Probably. The guy behind me at the market yesterday almost had a meltdown because the checker had to do a price check on someone's item. And driving in traffic can be a whole other war.

I think people get impatient when they take their eyes/thoughts off of what is really important in life.

Patience is a virtue. Many of us need more of it. :)

do you really expect some one to respect a retail employee?

Ripley
12-02-07, 10:58 AM
^ It's not so much the employee but the unrealistic ritual of hanging around waiting for an inanity to complete.

sandy
12-02-07, 10:59 AM
Yes.

MacGyver1968
12-02-07, 11:08 AM
do you really expect some one to respect a retail employee?

Yes...they are people too. Just because they make $7.50 an hour doesn't make them less of a person. How elitist of you. :)

S.A.M.
12-02-07, 11:09 AM
do you really expect some one to respect a retail employee?

If you were the one asking for the price check, would you feel the same way?:bugeye:

Ripley
12-02-07, 12:25 PM
Are we all in too much of a hurry these days? Is patience a thing of the past?

Slowly slowly O mind, everything in own pace happens
Gardner may water a hundred buckets, fruit arrives only in its season

See, the trouble with that eloquently rustic passage is that it can't very well be juxtaposed against the hurly-burly and a bureaucratically dominant civic lifestyle.

As I said above, it's those unrealistic and pesky inane modern "procedures" that keep us waiting like worms on a hook.

pjdude1219
12-02-07, 12:37 PM
If you were the one asking for the price check, would you feel the same way?:bugeye:

when i get a job it will be in retail. but coporate america has set up a system where it is expected that you disrespect retail employees. and yes i would because i have friends who work in retail

cosmictraveler
12-02-07, 12:55 PM
Learn the art of patience. Apply discipline to your thoughts when they become anxious over the outcome of a goal. Impatience breeds anxiety, fear, discouragement and failure. Patience creates confidence, decisiveness, and a rational outlook, which eventually leads to success.
Brian Adams

Patience is the greatest of all virtues.
Cato the Elder (234 BC - 149 BC)

A handful of patience is worth more than a bushel of brains.
Dutch Proverb

Our patience will achieve more than our force.
Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

It is very strange that the years teach us patience - that the shorter our time, the greater our capacity for waiting.
Elizabeth Taylor (1932 - ), "A Wreath of Roses"

There art two cardinal sins from which all others spring: Impatience and Laziness.
Franz Kafka (1883 - 1924)

Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice.
George Jackson (1941 - 1971)

We could never learn to be brave and patient, if there were only joy in the world.
Helen Keller (1880 - 1968)

The fates have given mankind a patient soul.
Homer (800 BC - 700 BC), The Iliad

If I have ever made any valuable discoveries, it has been owing more to patient attention, than to any other talent.
Isaac Newton (1642 - 1727)

Patience serves as a protection against wrongs as clothes do against cold. For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no power to hurt you. So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great wrongs, and they will then be powerless to vex your mind.
Leonardo da Vinci (1452 - 1519)

I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
Margaret Thatcher (1925 - ), in Observer April 4, 1989

There will be a time when loud-mouthed, incompetent people seem to be getting the best of you. When that happens, you only have to be patient and wait for them to self destruct. It never fails.
Richard Rybolt

Patience is the companion of wisdom.
Saint Augustine (354 AD - 430 AD)

Have patience with all things, but chiefly have patience with yourself. Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them - every day begin the task anew.
Saint Francis de Sales (1567 - 1622)

You must first have a lot of patience to learn to have patience.
Stanislaw J. Lec (1909 - 1966), "Unkempt Thoughts"

Patience is the best remedy for every trouble.
Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake.
Victor Hugo (1802 - 1885)

How poor are they who have not patience! What wound did ever heal but by degrees.
William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616)

greenberg
12-02-07, 01:32 PM
As I said above, it's those unrealistic and pesky inane modern "procedures" that keep us waiting like worms on a hook.

They get you when you wait.


I think that it is 'those unrealistic and pesky inane modern "procedures" that keep us waiting like worms on a hook' that can clearly and uncomfortably point out the meaninglessness of one's life - this is how waiting becomes so difficult to bear.

If one is just busy and running around all the time, never noticing what is really going on, then life might even appear meaningful. But when that run is brought to a halt -like when having to wait in line at the store- then absurdity can hit with full force.

And patience is absolutely necessary to look and perhaps see beyond that.

greenberg
12-02-07, 01:34 PM
I have no patience what-so-ever. I never have. I want things done NOW
If I get everything done NOW, I have time to do the stuff I want. If my family gets everything done NOW, we have time to do fun stuff.
If I do everything NOW, I never have to remember what I haven't done.

You are averse to procrastionation. Being averse to procrastination is not the same as not having patience.

greenberg
12-02-07, 01:34 PM
Are we all in too much of a hurry these days?

Is patience a thing of the past?

No, but meaning might very well be.

Orleander
12-02-07, 04:08 PM
You are averse to procrastionation. Being averse to procrastination is not the same as not having patience.

I am so telling my family that. I have been raised to think I was impatient. :(
My Mom even had Patience is a Virtue cross stitched and hung in my room.