I saw on Fox news (which is a Christian oriented network but unlike Arabist: BBC & CNN, it is (more) fair and balanced most of the time) how Ollie North had the most obvious answering conclusion that it was Hezbollah terrosrists who killed the kids in Qana Lebanon, which prompted another excuse for Islamists to "rage" their racism against Israel.

His questions were:

This one I wondered immediately too.
1) Why did it take 7 hours from Israel's bombing on Hezbollah terrorists rocket launcing location at that building to "collapse".

This coming second one is very thoughtful, Listen:
2) Where are the men of these "innocent women and children"?
Unless they are Hezbollah murderers.

*Yawn* Dude, your threads are boring. Don't you need to wash dishes or something?

Oliver North, of Fox News? You mean one of the head guys involved with the Iran Contra Scandal back in the 80's? Oh yes, how I trust him so, especially in regards to the ongoings of the Middle East, LoL!

1) Why did it take 7 hours from Israel's bombing on Hezbollah terrorists rocket launcing location at that building to "collapse".

Uh, it happens all the time. Heck, buildings collapse out of the blue even without airstrikes! Just because it didn't collapse immediately, don't let that make you forget that Israel bombed the building in the first place!

Yep, you're on the side that puts the blame on the civilians in the World Trade Center for dying later when the airliners crashed into the towers and stayed inside instead of leaving the area. It's the civilians fault for dying when the buildings later collapsed. I mean, hey, you don't wanna place the blame on the Israelis that bomed the frickin' building so why place the blame on the terrorists that crashed the planes into it? :rolleyes:

2) Where are the men of these "innocent women and children"?
Unless they are Hezbollah murderers.

If they weren't Hezbollah murders beforehand, I can guarantee you that they are now! If I just lost my family like that, my ass would be on a life-long quest to seek vengence for what Israel did. Violence begets violence.

- N

*Yawn* Dude, your threads are boring. Don't you need to wash dishes or something?
from the looks of it, he has his whole life to do just that.
i suppose it is better than being a jizzmopper for a career.

Qana II: Will Hezbollah Ever Learn?
Dr. Joseph Hitti - 7/31/2006
There is plenty of responsibility on both sides for yesterday's killing of 65 Lebanese civilians sheltered in a building in the southern Lebanese town of Qana by an Israeli air strike. But the lion's share of responsibility by far falls squarely into the hands of Hezbollah for triggering events whose outcome they did not predict, and for taking the initiative of war without having prepared Lebanon, its army, its civilian population and its government for the consequences of war.

Hezbollah has chosen to drag Lebanon into a war for which it – Hezbollah – has no preparation except for 12,000 rockets and missiles and military guerilla-style operations that are mounted and launched from behind civilians – women, children and the handicapped. It has not prepared the civilian population of Lebanon for a protracted war against Israel. Hezbollah should know – as smart as Hassan Nasrallah says he and his fighters are – that by fighting a war from villages, between houses and buildings, and among civilians who have nowhere to go, it was inviting the death of the very population it claims to be "defending" against the Israeli onslaught.

Lebanese refugees arriving from the southern villages are telling stories of Hezbollah killing Lebanese villagers who decide to flee, and of literally using their own people as human shields:

“Hezbollah came to Ain Ebel to shoot its rockets,” said Fayad Hanna Amar. “They are shooting from between our houses.” “Please,’’ he added, “write that in your newspaper.” Mr. Amar said Hezbollah fighters in groups of two and three had come into Ain Ebel, less than a mile from Bint Jbail, where most of the fighting has occurred. They were using it as a base to shoot rockets, he said, and the Israelis fired back.

One woman, who would not give her name because she had a government job and feared retribution, said Hezbollah fighters had killed a man who was trying to leave Bint Jbail.

“This is what's happening, but no one wants to say it” for fear of Hezbollah, she said. (New York Times, July 27, 2006).

Like in 1996, the outrage over the civilian deaths in Qana is going to be used by the enemies of Lebanon to grant Hezbollah a bigger mantle of respectability, and thus further drag Lebanon backwards and away from a lasting solution. This is precisely the scenario that Hezbollah wanted to choreograph by firing their rockets mere yards from the shelter where the Lebanese civilians were huddled, and that is why Prime Minister Saniora declined to meet with Secretary Condoleezza Rice. Hezbollah's end game is to scuttle any attempt at establishing a ceasefire that mandates the disarming of Hezbollah, and it therefore resorts to staging attacks, inviting Israeli retaliations, then screaming bloody murder and dragging the Lebanese Prime Minister to end the negotiations for a ceasefire.

Unlike in 1996, the building toppled yesterday by the Israeli air strike was not marked, nor was it a UN building. There was no way to know that people were hiding in this building from where Hezbollah had just fired a rocket, other than to deduce that Hezbollah was using the building as a cover for firing its rockets. So why should anyone be surprised and outraged that innocent civilians are caught in Hezbollah’s game of horror with the Israelis?

There is no proposal for a solution on the table today, even from so-called friendly countries, that does not include the disarming of Hezbollah and its putting out of commission. Therefore, Hezbollah's suicidal quixotic bravados are understandable. Hezbollah’s people know they have no plan and they know they have nowhere to go but down. Theirs is a Samson fight, because theirs is a culture of death that the entire world opposes, and which they themselves know is a dead end. And as they see their end nearing, their lack of honor and human decency will make them bring the temple down on themselves and on the Lebanese civilian population, instead of coming to terms with the fact that it is time to close shop and go home. Like the typical Arab ruler or despot who steps up to his moment of glory over the blood and the cadavers of his countrymen, Hezbollah’s Hassan Nasrallah is equally incapable of stepping down from the pedestal he erected for his own glory without bringing Lebanon down with him. When will the Lebanese people learn?

so who is next, and what should they learn before war is visited upon them...i mean....if there is a lesson that can help to avoid war, why not share it beforehand?

NWTRT, the answer lies with Dr. Robert Opsaul.

Make love not war!!

Make love not war!!

An event of earth shattering proportions-----> I agree with Vega http://www.allemoticons.com/Love/Love_0731.gif

...and it was the Jews who visited death on 6 million in germany, according to Ollie North. It wasn't Hitler. He was a scapegoat.

Kiwi123, why do you tell lies? Israel is evil. It's a cancer on the earth. Its a sickness. It the abomonation of desolation.

It murders childern on purpose. It kills nursing mothers. It steals the land of the peoples. It is evil. After the Creator turned HIS back your tribe, instead of seeking repentance, they did as they did with Moses. So what is the reward for such a people?

I have no petty for the Jews.

from the looks of it, he has his whole life to do just that.
i suppose it is better than being a jizzmopper for a career.
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I'm at a school. No semen on the floors. You hold a disdain for non-corporate employment? My sympathies. I'm not defined by my job. :)


Um, Genji, The Devil Inside post was directed at Kiwi...not you...

Um, Genji, The Devil Inside post was directed at Kiwi...not you...
:eek: The 'jizzmopper' remark was a stab at janitordom I thought! Umm, I'll go back & edit!! SORRY DevilInside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I whipped out the Kayatusha in haste!!!

Kiwi123, why do you tell lies? Israel is evil. It's a cancer on the earth. Its a sickness. It the abomonation of desolation.

It murders childern on purpose. It kills nursing mothers. It steals the land of the peoples. It is evil. After the Creator turned HIS back your tribe, instead of seeking repentance, they did as they did with Moses. So what is the reward for such a people?

I have no petty for the Jews.
Darth Vader is evil ,Luke Skywalker is good....Yoda tells lies!!!
..,are you living in disney world???

:eek: The 'jizzmopper' remark was a stab at janitordom I thought! Umm, I'll go back & edit!! SORRY DevilInside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I whipped out the Kayatusha in haste!!!
heh...no problem.

NWTRT, the answer lies with Dr. Robert Opsaul.
im going to start assuming that you mean something derogatory by your "nwtrt" comment, buffalo. you have yet to define what you mean, and you use it solely in reference to people who disagree with you.

until there is a definition supplied, consider every post with that abbreviation included to be reported to the mods.

consider every post with that abbreviation included to be reported to the mods.
Oh Christ he is now going to start harassing Buffalo like he harassed me .

Buffalo pay no attention to this idiot , he spent the best part of 6 months reporting everyone of my posts , no one pays any attention to him , its fairly obvious you have said something to this infantile person that has set him off , ignore him .

This compulsive moron has no right dictating how we should compose the context of our threads .

NWTRT, the answer lies with Dr. Robert Opsaul.

Okay, before you would just make a post and put NWTRT without anything else which confused the hell out of everyone. Since you actually used it in somewhat of a sentence, does it mean "No Way To Really Tell"?

SORRY DevilInside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I whipped out the Kayatusha in haste!!!

LoL!!

- N

Oh Christ he is now going to start harassing Buffalo like he harassed me .

Buffalo pay no attention to this idiot , he spent the best part of 6 months reporting everyone of my posts , no one pays any attention to him , its fairly obvious you have said something to this infantile person that has set him off , ignore him .

This compulsive moron has no right dictating how we should compose the context of our threads .
if you want some, come get it.
otherwise, dont mention me again, racist.

and for your information, the reporting only happened when it was warranted, and i only reported racist, inflammatory, or attacking posts.

Hay Foley something we agree on, the world is coming to a end!

if you want some, come get it.
otherwise, dont mention me again, racist.

and for your information, the reporting only happened when it was warranted, and i only reported racist, inflammatory, or attacking posts.
Ah shutup you discredited liar wanker , greener pastures , ROFL , what a dick head showing your face back here again . Oh yeah I was advised to ignore you and that was what I was doing , so do not answer anymore of my posts .
Hay Foley something we agree on, the world is coming to a end!
The end of my world is my bar .

]Ah shutup you discredited liar wanker , greener pastures , ROFL , what a dick head showing your face back here again . Oh yeah I was advised to ignore you and that was what I was doing , so do not answer anymore of my posts .
hey, i am not the one the mods are making threads about. you did an EXCELLENT job ignoring me, by the way...i mean, sticking your nose into a conversation you have nothing to do with, strictly to insult someone... good job!

and dont you dare ever try to take a high ground with me.

The end of my world is my bar .
it shows.



keep the ad homs coming! we might not have to wait until the 7th to see you banned. i invite your vitriol.

Darth Vader is evil ,Luke Skywalker is good....Yoda tells lies!!!
..,are you living in disney world???


Vega - what the blasted hell are you talking about... I think your the one living in a fairy land. Are you saying there is no good, evil, lies? Just what the frickin poppycock are you saying!?! Speak up BOY!

im going to start assuming that you mean something derogatory by your "nwtrt" comment, buffalo. you have yet to define what you mean, and you use it solely in reference to people who disagree with you.

until there is a definition supplied, consider every post with that abbreviation included to be reported to the mods.
hey devil,

how are you

dont get so offended by Nwtrt, buffalo is a very honourable poster and reporting him is just folly and you will be the one left with egg on his face.

Dont bother even going there. Buffalo contributes some good stuff to the forums and if he is barred i will get as many posters as i can to put you on their ignore list

im going to start assuming that you mean something derogatory by your "nwtrt" comment, buffalo. you have yet to define what you mean, and you use it solely in reference to people who disagree with you.

until there is a definition supplied, consider every post with that abbreviation included to be reported to the mods.

The secret?
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1106330#post1106330

Vega - what the blasted hell are you talking about... I think your the one living in a fairy land. Are you saying there is no good, evil, lies? Just what the frickin poppycock are you saying!?! Speak up BOY!
hey broady,
I don't know how to tell you this but ..WE ARE ALL EVIL!!! there is none good not even you..
so lets just take it from there.. :D

The secret?
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1106330#post1106330
hey sam

i hope all is good with you

i think thats the wrong guess mate

hey sam

i hope all is good with you

i think thats the wrong guess mate

I looked at some of Buffalo's posts where he says it and it seems like a pretty accurate guess to me.

I looked at some of Buffalo's posts where he says it and it seems like a pretty accurate guess to me.
Sam

i'm only messing aorund, no worries man

Sam

i'm only messing aorund, no worries man

Okay! :p

Cool

But sam we all know that the Buffalo is not an offensive chap, so what i woudl really like is for DEVILINSIDE to retract that earlier post about reporting my man the Buffalo for nwtrt

Anyone can report; it's up to the moderators to clarify and decide for themselves.

lets hope the mods see sense and give the DEVILINSIDE a yellow card for making a meal out of it

Sam

i'm only messing aorund, no worries man
If the "middle east" would argue in this spirit (as opposed tro Brian Foley's) no shots would be fired.

1) Why did it take 7 hours from Israel's bombing on Hezbollah terrorists rocket launcing location at that building to "collapse"...?

2) Where are the men of these "innocent women and children"?


Good, pointed questions, Kiwi.

If the "middle east" would argue in this spirit (as opposed tro Brian Foley's) no shots would be fired.

Israel was created more than fifty years ago by a United Nations plan and hostile actions towards Israel by neighboring Arab states soon followed. The plan was not well received by Israel's neighbors. Will those Arab states that do not recognize the right of Israel to exist be open to any United Nations resolution that falls short of extinguishing Israel?

Oh, if only I owned land that had a significant holy history important to the Israelites... I would give it to them in a hearbeat and respect their borders!

Oh, if only I owned land that had a significant holy history important to the Israelites... I would give it to them in a hearbeat and respect their borders!

Then you would have to declare war on them, so they would feel justified in taking land to set up a security buffer ;)

hey devil,

how are you

dont get so offended by Nwtrt, buffalo is a very honourable poster and reporting him is just folly and you will be the one left with egg on his face.

Dont bother even going there. Buffalo contributes some good stuff to the forums and if he is barred i will get as many posters as i can to put you on their ignore list
mind your own business. i wasnt talking to you.

Hi Devil
Thank you for your post, i hope you ahd a good weekend

I'm just asking you to take it easy and get off the buffalo's back .

he has done nothing wrong so stop acting like a big cry baby!!!

Ok. Everyone at least pretend to by arguing about something vaguely on topic. Ok?

zakaraiya....

mind your own business.

zakaraiya....

mind your own business.
Devil Inside

dont get all shirty

i dont see anything wrong with sticking up for a mate.

I do aplogise if I have been barking up the wrong tree however

hey broady,
I don't know how to tell you this but ..WE ARE ALL EVIL!!! there is none good not even you..
so lets just take it from there.. :D

Ok Veggy. I agree with that.... LETS KILL EVERYONE!!! That will be an end to all this rubbish!!!

broadanbeaver! but after all we all are not like Huzbollah/Hamas/AlQaeda/GemmaIslamiya that values death over live!

I'm still waiting to hear... where does everyone think all the "men" were?

I'm still waiting to hear... where does everyone think all the "men" were?
Hello Wilmet, i hope all is well with you

how do you mean wilmet, pls refresh my memory

I do aplogise if I have been barking up the wrong tree however

thank you.

I'm still waiting to hear... where does everyone think all the "men" were?
Well if my homeland was under seige and my family was trapped I sure wouldn't be curled up with them trembling in terror. And I sure as hell wouldn't commit suicide by 'surrendering' to the zionist killers. That leaves one option for a real man: Fight.

I'm still waiting to hear... where does everyone think all the "men" were?Not having dinner outside...