In an alarming example of how events can be kept out of the public eye....

Last weekend a student at the University of Oklahoma blew up outside of a packed football stadium. It was immediately called a suicide and has not been reported on by the mainstream media since.

Thanks to several blogs, some shreds of light on the ongoing FBI investigation can be gained:
http://floppingaces.blogspot.com/2005/10/oklahoma-bombing.html

Some interesting points: a. The bomber had earlier in the week tried to purchase a large supply of the same material used in the okc bombing b. More bomb making material was found at his apartment c. Jihadist literature was found at his apartment d. His pakistani roomate has not been seen or heard from since the bombing

Combine those with the fact that he blew up outside of a packed football stadium, and its hard to believe this was just some bizarre suicide.

The person who went on the air claiming it was a suicide is OU president David Boren who is a former senator and has strong ties to the CIA and FBI.

It is absolutely stunning to me that something as important as a possible large-scale attempted terrorist bombing on US soil can be so quickly and conveniently swept under the rug.

Scary indeed.

In an alarming example of how events can be kept out of the public eye....

It wasn't "kept out of the public eye", it was reported in the papers and on the LOCAL news, just NOT on the national or world news. Anyone who wanted to know only had to do some checking in the local area papers.

Another question is: Why do you think a student blowing himself up is "world news"???

The explosion occured about 110yds from the stadium ....and there was no one around that could have been harmed (well, except for him!).

...its hard to believe this was just some bizarre suicide.

Well, people will believe what they want, but why? If you have some valid reasons for believing otherwise, please present you evidence.

There are lots worse suicides that occur regularly, you just don't hear about it because of where you live (wherever that is?). It's LOCAL news, not national or world news.

It is absolutely stunning to me that something as important as a possible large-scale attempted terrorist bombing on US soil can be so quickly and conveniently swept under the rug.

What evidence do you have that it was "...a possible large-scale attempted terrorist bombing...."?????

And why do you say it was swept under the rug if it was fully reported in all the local papers?? What ye're really questioning is why wasn't it reported in YOUR news or papers ......and I'd have to say that it wasn't important enough for YOUR news or papers to bother.

Baron Max

so when terrorists blow them selves up,thats not news?


this should have been story one on all the media.

home grown terrorists attempting to blow up a football game proves w's stupid ''fight them there,not here''stratagy is not working.


i guess rove cant spin suicide bombings in oklahoma so he just had it squashed before it became big news.

so when terrorists blow them selves up,thats not news?

He wasn't a terrorist!!! He was just some damned stupid, troubled youth who killed himself.

He was alone in a park some 100yds from anyone or anything that could have been harmed ......does that sound like he wanted to kill anyone except himself???

Baron Max

In an alarming example of how events can be kept out of the public eye....

Last weekend a student at the University of Oklahoma blew up outside of a packed football stadium. It was immediately called a suicide and has not been reported on by the mainstream media since.

Thanks to several blogs, some shreds of light on the ongoing FBI investigation can be gained:
http://floppingaces.blogspot.com/2005/10/oklahoma-bombing.html

Some interesting points: a. The bomber had earlier in the week tried to purchase a large supply of the same material used in the okc bombing b. More bomb making material was found at his apartment c. Jihadist literature was found at his apartment d. His pakistani roomate has not been seen or heard from since the bombing

Combine those with the fact that he blew up outside of a packed football stadium, and its hard to believe this was just some bizarre suicide.

The person who went on the air claiming it was a suicide is OU president David Boren who is a former senator and has strong ties to the CIA and FBI.

It is absolutely stunning to me that something as important as a possible large-scale attempted terrorist bombing on US soil can be so quickly and conveniently swept under the rug.

Scary indeed.

See, this is why I'm against the government, lying, dirty, rotten, bastards. I would not doubt that they told the terrorist to do it.
Just like Lee Harvey Oswald.

Baron,
What evidence do you have that it was "...a possible large-scale attempted terrorist bombing...."?????
Did you read my post? Did you follow any links? I will suppress my urge to call you a jackass. oops.

Evidence:
- He tried to buy a bunch of fertilizer earlier that week from a local feed store. Reported by OKC News 9.
- Additional large amounts of explosives were found in his apartment. Reported by the FBI.

Are you telling me that these two points do not indicate something other than suicide???

I am not saying I know the answers. I do not know whether this was a large scale terrorist attack gone wrong or not....what I am saying is that the evidence attained thus far should be a national new story. I guess you think its not a big deal. Scary again.

I'd wager his bomb prematurely blew up. This has happened quite a few times around the world where a terrorist's bomb went off before their intended target.

And yes, this SHOULD have been in, at the very least, national news. That's total censorship. Hopefully once a big enough mob mentality fuss is made, as Baron Max loves, it'll be showed to all.

- N

I see it made Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20051002/ap_on_re_us/oklahoma_explosion_4

- N

Baron, I am not saying I know the answers. I do not know whether this was a large scale terrorist attack gone wrong or not....

Then why don't we wait to see what the investigation turns up? Why must everyone go off on some wild tangent without knowing a fuckin' thing about it? Why make wild accusations without any fuckin' info?

Well, I'll tell you why! Sensationalism. That's all. That's it. Just plain sensationalism ...which is what this world's news organizations have turned us all into ....gluttons for sensationalism! This forum is a prime example ....people post crap here with ONLY the intention of stirring up the shit and making people react - usually "violently".

Baron Max

Then why don't we wait to see what the investigation turns up? Why must everyone go off on some wild tangent without knowing a fuckin' thing about it? Why make wild accusations without any fuckin' info?

Well, I'll tell you why! Sensationalism. That's all. That's it. Just plain sensationalism ...which is what this world's news organizations have turned us all into ....gluttons for sensationalism! This forum is a prime example ....people post crap here with ONLY the intention of stirring up the shit and making people react - usually "violently".

Baron Max

Exactly right.

Considering how things have gone in the past (all the threat levels bouncing up and down, false alerts, etc.), the very last thing the FBI and other authorities want to do is cry terrorist and then discover it was nothing beyond a depressed young man who wanted to kill himself in a very public area. And had all that come to pass, you silly people would REALLY be screaming, wouldn't you? :bugeye:

Let's wait and see what the investigation turns up.

people post crap here with ONLY the intention of stirring up the shit and making people react - usually "violently".

*stirs a witch's cauldron filled with vitriolic stew*

Come, Baron Max, have a dip.

:p

- N

Baron & Light,
Let me get this straight....evidence of a possible attempted large scale terrorist attack on US soil should NOT be reported by the MSM??? That is what you are saying? You guys would be right at home over in China...

Baron & Light,
Let me get this straight....evidence of a possible attempted large scale terrorist attack on US soil should NOT be reported by the MSM??? That is what you are saying? You guys would be right at home over in China...

Read it again, please - that's not what I said at all. See if you can understand it this time through, OK?

Perhaps his detonation was premature as he wanted it to go off inside the game not where it did. Perhaps then it would have become national news if more people were involved besides just him.

Light,
Do even know about the story or are you talking out of your azz?

Let's wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Some of the things it has turned up (according to Oklahoma channel 9 news):

- Hindrich's (bomber) spent alot of time at the Mosque by his apartment.
- Plane Ticket to Algeria "at future date" in Pakistani roommates name was found in his apartment.
- 5 others involved but not arrested.
- Hindrichs tried to get into game 3 times at two different gates.
- Hindrichs had a ticket to the game.
- Hinrichs tried to purchase fertilizer earlier in the week.

Now, again I ask...you think these things should not be reported by national media?

Considering how things have gone in the past (all the threat levels bouncing up and down, false alerts, etc.), the very last thing the FBI and other authorities want to do is cry terrorist and then discover it was nothing beyond a depressed young man who wanted to kill himself in a very public area. And had all that come to pass, you silly people would REALLY be screaming, wouldn't you?

If "THEY" could find a way make this advance there silly "War on Terrorism", if it had been some Arab kid or a reasonable facsimile thereof, this story would've made the front page of every newspaper in the country.

I'm assuming this was some little Mid-America white kid. For the public to get the idea that little white boys are becoming suicide bombers sends the wrong message. Better to make it seem like some depressed young man killing himself than some "normal" kid all of a sudden becoming a suicide bomber.

But...Why not overdose on some pills or blow your brains out or the many other ways one can get a ticket on the suicide train? Logic states that this young fella was attempting to send a message. If he was intent on killing others - who knows but…

Some of the things it has turned up (according to Oklahoma channel 9 news):......

Oh, great ...now we're getting some possible info instead of sensationalism.

Now, again I ask...you think these things should not be reported by national media?

Well, I don't know? I ask myself "why?", and can't come up with a single, good reason why I or anyone else should know about it other than people who are directly affected. I mean, let's say that we ALL know .....what the hell good does it do us? Any of us? Don't ya' wonder?

I'm sorta' curious about the "fertilizer bomb"???? I mean, it's my understanding that it would take a helluva lot of fertilizer and fuel oil to make much of a bomb ....like the OKC bomb was a big truck FULL of it. How much of a "boom" would a little backpack make?

Perhaps ignorance really is bliss?? :)

Baron Max

For the public to get the idea that little white boys are becoming suicide bombers sends the wrong message.

What would be such a "wrong message"? I don't understand ...can you explain that a bit more clearly?

Baron Max

Baron,
"it's my understanding that it would take a helluva lot of fertilizer and fuel oil to make much of a bomb"

Yes, me too. It sounds like he was trying to build a bigger bomb. Maybe looking into the idea of pulling a truck up close to the stadium as people were leaving. (There is a street that runs right up to the stadium but i think it is blocked off during games)
It definately would not have been a backpack bomb. Sounds like the backpack route was a 2nd choice....

".....what the hell good does it do us? "
It is an ideal I guess. I am not looking at it from the perpective that it would do anyone any "good". That doesn't matter to me. I feel a democracy can be judged by its press. The more open, transparent, and unaffected by governent the better. I may be wrong, but I think this story is being swept under the rug for various political reasons. It may reach the point where the national media cannot ignore it....but we will see.

I feel a democracy can be judged by its press.

Then we're all in very deep, very smelly shit!!!!!! :)

Baron Max

Then we're all in very deep, very smelly shit!!!!!! :)

Baron Max
We gotta stop agreeing on some things, man, it kinda ruins the whole "dualism" thing. :p

What would be such a "wrong message"? I don't understand ...can you explain that a bit more clearly?

Baron Max

Once you've convinced the American public that suicide bombing is carried out by crazy Arabs who practice the devils religion [not my thought - that's the medias portrayal of my freedom fighting comrades!] in another part of the world - or universe for all they care - then the wrong message would be "Little Timmy just done went and blowed hisself up at dat football games! Timmy was a suicide Bomber folks!" "Yes little white boys from privileged back grounds are blowing demselves up!" "It's the newest rage in the states!!!" "A real bang!" "Sickel and Ebert give it two thumbs up!" "Yes, Opie you too can be a SUICIDE BOMBER with RONCOs I Wanna Be A Sucide Bomber Kit" ...just 3 easy payments of $19.99...and we'll even throw in a set of our new Reusable Condoms - Share them with your buddies!!

THAT'S NOT THE MESSAGE THE POWERS THAT BE WANT SPREAD AROUND

It's just not the right time. Any good comedy depends vitally on timing, and other emotional manipulation is no different.

"Light,
Do even know about the story or are you talking out of your azz?


“ Let's wait and see what the investigation turns up. ”



Some of the things it has turned up (according to Oklahoma channel 9 news):

- Hindrich's (bomber) spent alot of time at the Mosque by his apartment.
- Plane Ticket to Algeria "at future date" in Pakistani roommates name was found in his apartment.
- 5 others involved but not arrested.
- Hindrichs tried to get into game 3 times at two different gates.
- Hindrichs had a ticket to the game.
- Hinrichs tried to purchase fertilizer earlier in the week.

Now, again I ask...you think these things should not be reported by national media? "

There is always a chance that they are investigating and following other suspects. Keeping the lid down on things until they get everyone. Just a thought.
Or maybe the guy was just some retarded nut who killed himself.

"Light,
Do even know about the story or are you talking out of your azz?


“ Let's wait and see what the investigation turns up. ”



Some of the things it has turned up (according to Oklahoma channel 9 news):

- Hindrich's (bomber) spent alot of time at the Mosque by his apartment.
- Plane Ticket to Algeria "at future date" in Pakistani roommates name was found in his apartment.
- 5 others involved but not arrested.
- Hindrichs tried to get into game 3 times at two different gates.
- Hindrichs had a ticket to the game.
- Hinrichs tried to purchase fertilizer earlier in the week.

Now, again I ask...you think these things should not be reported by national media? "

There is always a chance that they are investigating and following other suspects. Keeping the lid down on things until they get everyone. Just a thought.
Or maybe the guy was just some retarded nut who killed himself.

Yes, I know the story. I won't comment on anything unless I know something about it.

I see you are FINALLY catching on - it's precisely your last three or four sentences that I was talking about when I said wait!!!!!!

Wait??? Do any of you seriously think the MSM should keep WAITING to report this??? They should keep reporting NYC hoaxes and the status of the Aruba girl?

Meanwhile we have a person that detonated a bomb a 100 yards away from 80,000 people in the middle of the US. Evidence points to this being a failed terrorist act.

Nah, better not report on that, not important. This country is screwball.

Wait??? Do any of you seriously think the MSM should keep WAITING to report this??? They should keep reporting NYC hoaxes and the status of the Aruba girl?

Meanwhile we have a person that detonated a bomb a 100 yards away from 80,000 people in the middle of the US. Evidence points to this being a failed terrorist act.

Nah, better not report on that, not important. This country is screwball.

I never once said the story should have to wait to be reported. I said to wait before jumping to any unfounded conclusions, which apparently you already have.

Evidence points to this being a failed terrorist act.

Oh, really? What evidence? Remember now, I asked for EVIDENCE, not speculation!

Baron Max

Why make wild accusations without any fuckin' info?

Well, I'll tell you why! Sensationalism. That's all. That's it. Just plain sensationalism ...which is what this world's news organizations have turned us all into ....gluttons for sensationalism!
I guess news organizations aren't as sensationalist as you make them out to be, otherwise they WOULD have made a big deal of this.

"I never once said the story should have to wait to be reported. I said to wait before jumping to any unfounded conclusions, which apparently you already have. "
So you think it should be reported??? How about that we agree. I am not making any conclusions. Read through the thread. The things I have cited all came from local news reports from Oklahoma.

"Oh, really? What evidence? Remember now, I asked for EVIDENCE, not speculation! "
Look previously in this thread. I've already laid some of it out. Quit acting like I'm claiming I know all the answers. I just think the story should have been covered by MSM. You would rather have them report stunning developments like Demi Moore getting married....correct?

"Oh, really? What evidence? Remember now, I asked for EVIDENCE, not speculation! "
Look previously in this thread. I've already laid some of it out.

The last article I read on this incident, any and all "evidence" of a terrorist plot (or whatever) has been ruled out by not only the FBI, but by the local police investigators as well. That was either in Wednesday's or today's Dallas Morning News.

I just think the story should have been covered by MSM.

But where would it end? If they report on EVERY single event that COULD POSSIBLY BE A TERRORIST PLOT/ACTION, then anything and everything would have to be reported! I can't believe that you'd want such garbage reported WITHOUT any evidence to back up any claim or accusation?

What good would it do anyone? I can see a lot of harm, but not any good. In fact, it's my contention that the news already reports much too much crap before they've verified anything ....that leads to lots of mistrust and could lead to some violent retaliation or revenge-style actions.

And yea, I think I would have rather read something about Demi Moore or Britney Spears or Jennifer Lopez .....it would have done me more good AND it wouldn't have the potential to cause any harm. :)

Baron Max

I did a search on "oklahoma bombing" and found this link. Interesting...

http://judicial-inc.biz/Oklahoma_City_Bomb.htm

Wrong bombing, by about 10 years. :p

Let's just be glad that domestic terrorism is confined to Oklahoma as it is to Iraq. Let's take the fight to them Oklahomans, otherwise the rest of our country will be in shambles under the Oklahoman threat! :rolleyes:

- N

I don't have any reason to think OU is sweeping anything under the rug. Most of the people on The OU board are bored with the topic.

The media reports what they think the public would like to hear. If a person blows himself up and no one gets harmed, thats not news to them, it's a suicide. If a person blows himself up AND takes out 10 people and causes millions of dollars in damage, thats not a suicide, it's a tragedy, and tragedies must be reported by the media.

Combine those with the fact that he blew up outside of a packed football stadium, and its hard to believe this was just some bizarre suicide.



It isn't nearly as close as you think. Probably about 500 ft.


http://www.ottergoose.net/imgs/ou-bomb-map02.png

The comment, "we live here" isn't mine. I'm an OU grad living in Houston.