Hey, sounds good to me :-D

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i can think of other good ways to nip it in the bud, too...:D :bugeye:

Genetics is just on facet to curing stupidity, Cybernetics is another and one...

I can see a very long line forming already for brain enhancing stem cells injections and Direct Brain Link PDAs. Making designer babies though tends to piss people off so the best future is in those that are already born.

So basically why nip it in the bud when you can do it later and get around all those dam Christian fundamentalist?

Pumpkin, you wouldn't be advising on the improper usage of a coat hanger, would you?
CM, I'm sure they are working on a pill for that too!

You forget, christian fundamentalists are against stem cell as well. We could always alter our dna using retrovirii, and that way we could alter those already living. But that would require activating those additions, and the effects may only be on newly made cell, and the brain cells don't often undergo cell division. I think we are still alot of research away till we get to the Khan Noonian Sigh stage of genetically tweaked humans. Anyone know where to get powerfull lab micorscopes on the cheap, preferably binocular and high powered?

Well we could always use specially engineered pig stem cells then :D the blood brain barrier helps a lot in that retrovirus situation as well.

how does injecting stem cells into the brain make you more intelligent?

Pumpkin, you wouldn't be advising on the improper usage of a coat hanger, would you?


naw.....but, hey....ya know what's fun.....when people read whatever they want to in my words. it's fun to read between-the-lines...:D c'mon...let's all do it!:D

Between the lines eeh? :eek: my god! you having sex with other forum members???

No serious I agree with you that statement he made was just a red haring: just brush it off it has no connection with what your really said... right?

spuriousmonkey,

If we can increase brain density with more neurons and connection then in theory it would make your more intelligent... could also do lots of other things though, such as enhance perspectives or produce certain odd psychological disorders

:rolleyes: red herring...and, you know that you love it when i roll my eyes at you, you candy-apple red fetus, you.

hey I did not raise the issue to begin with. So its your Red Haring… maybe its immane1 if you want to say he started it.

How much of a 'cure' would this be? Isn't some of it enviromental?

i say, gather up all the certified morons, obnoxious, rude & stupid-on-purpose people and pen them up and throw in toss in a couple rounds of DDT.
man...i feel radical today. sorry, all...:p

why not just give them brain implants saves alot of killing... on the other hand your idea would be cheaper and it would solve our over population problem! http://www.guru3d.com/forum/images/smilies/massacre.gif

If everyone in the world was intelligent, most of you would be stupid by comparison. ;)

If everyone in the world was intelligent, most of you would be stupid by comparison.

pumpkinsaren'torange,

I don't like your idea now: its a bad idea!!!http://www.guru3d.com/forum/images/smilies/grenade.gif

Originally posted by WellCookedFetus


If we can increase brain density with more neurons and connection then in theory it would make your more intelligent... could also do lots of other things though, such as enhance perspectives or produce certain odd psychological disorders

maybe as a thought experiment, but there is a huge variation in human brainsize and this doesn't seem to be correlated to intelligence.

Yes brain size has little correlation with intelligence but brain density (in particular regions of the brain) does. This density is cause by very well connected neurons and adding more neurons would in theory help... but not much because it would increase energy demands and there is only so much blood that can get to any area of the brain. I would always vouch for direct link cybernetics: I really badly need a PDA inside my head!

That's fantastic! I'm willing to try that before my original plan to just eat people.

mmmmmm, Soil & Green http://www.guru3d.com/forum/images/smilies/drool.gif

Seriously in brain storming about how to stop over population the stupid people go first!

It is not a question of current density it is unlocking the other 90% of our brains that we don't use. Increasing number synaspes firing too much would cause an overload alot worse than a migrain. Possibly a burn out or permently altered brain disorders. Try it with little albino mice before you do it to steve the flunky.

The 10% brain thing is a myth!!! Unless you mean 10% at any time... the only time we would be using 100% is during a seizure!

Much of the brain mapping has been done. It has been found that places all over the brain are attributed for different things. I doubt that there is 10% unused, much less area for 90%.

Possibly a burn out or permently altered brain disorders. Try it with little albino mice before you do it to steve the flunky.

why should we "try"? we don't need to...we KNOW that that would be the case. just imagine.....if ALL the neurons started firing at one time, (depending on the duration of the episode)there would no doubt be permanent damage.

Try it with little albino mice
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ya, alot of people that have stratapheric iqs have more than one line of thought so it is called magical thinking. It is a symptom of skizofreina and lesser degrees of that disorder. Increasing brain density would cause magical thinking because of multiple trains of thought existing at the same time.

i don't like the idea of increasing intelligence, because we are all aware that tremendously intelligent people are usually not really much fun to be around with.

we should inject stem cells in the social and fun sector of the brain. But injecting stem cells in brains might be a recipe for increase in brain cancer....i guestimate

Originally posted by spuriousmonkey
we should inject stem cells in the social and fun sector of the brain. But injecting stem cells in brains might be a recipe for increase in brain cancer....i guestimate

That might not be bad: I always wanted 24hour orgasms. About the cancer, not if we engineer them properly!

just to remind you people on the prospects and drawbacks of stem cells, a while ago embryonic pig brain stem cells were injected into people who had suffered brain damage, and the results were widely varrying. Some went from vegetables to completely normal people who could now even walk! Another case I remember hearing about in a seminar, is that some of them had their injected tissue somehow create too much dopamine. This overstimulation apparently caused some of the subjects to eat their fingers. Nothing like a side effect like that to put a dampiner on a research seminar...I swear the room went dead silent when that was mentioned.

that was believe to be cause by a still yet unknown process rejection... as well as improper dosage.

Originally posted by WellCookedFetus
that was believe to be cause by a still yet unknown process rejection... as well as improper dosage.

well biology is not an exact science and there might not be a proper dosage.

Proper dosage to the patient and region of brain.

Originally posted by WellCookedFetus
Proper dosage to the patient and region of brain.


a stem cell is not a drug

It is injected in concentration and dosage.

a stem cell is not a drug...again...

So then only drugs are measure out in concentration and volume? Jee how many fields of science are you aware of again? You even seem to forgotten about needed procedures in cooking!

Originally posted by WellCookedFetus
So then only drugs are measure out in concentration and volume? Jee how many fields of science are you aware of again? You even seem to forgotten about needed procedures in cooking!

I am writing a review on stem cells for a book on stem cells...is that expert enough for you...?

as you might be aware of stem cells are nothing without a stem cell niche. That's right! a stem cell by itself is a loose cannon. A stem cell in its niche is a controlled stem cell. Now why don't we inject a stem cell in a brain stem cell niche then? well, maybe because we don't know exactly what kind of adult stem cell niches there are in the brain and where and how big they are, what functions they serve and etc.

but go ahead...inject some stem cells into your brain if you want.

Jee then so I’m guessing you have never heard about what they have been testing on Parkinson patients? That is stem cell based (fetal pig) and they do inject them into the brain. And it has a relevantly good success rate… some times though it has no effect at all either due to a immunity response of unknown nature (Since the fetal cells are striped of any glycoprotein markers before hand) or something else.

spurious, what would you think to be the top 5 or so graduate schools for stem cell research?

not really, but having published a paper on stem cells, i think i am almost qualified to say something on the subject...but i am not sure...it could be that what I am saying is all bullshit...

and injecting stem cells in a brain and having some success doesn't mean they actually knew what they were doing...


i think we have to caution everyone in drawing polarized scientific conclusions, especially ones that were mainly brought into this world for secondary purposes, for funding and prestige.