"Did `never again' simply mean `never again will Germans kill Jews in Europe between 1939 and 1945?'"

...

"An officer ordered me to select 50 healthy female prisoners," she testified. "One of the guards handed me a basket full of soaked cabbage, told me not to eat it, but to give it to the 50 women. I gave them out and heard a scream. . . . They were all screaming and vomiting blood. All who ate the cabbage leaves started violently vomiting blood and screaming with pain. It was hell. In less than 20 minutes, they were dead."

source (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/02/08/an_auschwitz_in_korea/)

Witnesses have described watching entire families being put in glass chambers and gassed. They are left to an agonising death while scientists take notes.

source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,1136483,00.html)

Is this still happening? Why hasn't the UN, the EU or the USA intervened? Where is the diplomacy? Where are the sanctions? The threat of force?

And what happened to 'never again'? The memory of the dead should be honoured, but the lives of the living take priority.

If we wait for the regime to collapse - eventually - and then wander in, stare in horror at the corpses and mouth "but we didn't know..." - we'll be bald-faced liars, won't we?

All are afraid of China. Without its' blessing no-one will step foot in NK.
Besides, unlike Iraq, NK does have WMD's.

"Never again" was just a catchy political slogan.

So China sanctions the camps, even if indirectly?

(And that's how politics works? Beat the dog but hide from the wolf...)

So China sanctions the camps, even if indirectly?
Not really, China doesn't have all that good relations with NK. NK has better relations with Russia,
but(!) China will see Western armies on its' doorstep (NK) as a direct threat to itself. And I can not blame them at all. Would you trust the USA if were Chinese?
Its' regional geopolitics and nothing to do with supporting NK.

(And that's how politics works? Beat the dog but hide from the wolf...)
Politics is a cowardly business and the polititians generally care only for their own skin and offshore bank accounts.
They will attack NK if they see they and only they can gain something from that.

Is this still happening? Why hasn't the UN, the EU or the USA intervened? Where is the diplomacy? Where are the sanctions? The threat of force?

And what happened to 'never again'? The memory of the dead should be honoured, but the lives of the living take priority.

If we wait for the regime to collapse - eventually - and then wander in, stare in horror at the corpses and mouth "but we didn't know..." - we'll be bald-faced liars, won't we?
Ah Bullshit ! We were told the same story about the Serbs mass murdering and incinerating the corpses of Kosovans it never happened . The media told us Saddam was murdering 100,000's and burying them in mass graves , it was bullshit . What amazes me is the same media pulls the same propaganda stunt over and over , and minions like yourself keep going for it hook line and sinker , over and over again .

The media told us Saddam was murdering 100,000's and burying them in mass graves , it was bullshit .

Babies found in Iraqi mass grave (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm)

Got google? :cool:

Go on Go in And kill another 100,000 or so and distroy the countries industry and then get bugged down in a war that you cannot win and then put it in the too hard basket and walk away from it.
OH just a minute my wife told me that N Korea has the Nukes...opps,
Lets put that war thought on the ice for now...

Babies found in Iraqi mass grave (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm)

Got google? :cool:
Do a follow up on you BBC article , if you could I want to see the outcome of this claim .
Meanwhile .....................
Mass Graves (http://www.antiwar.com/wanniski/?articleid=3926)
Meanwhile, this week Human Rights Watch issued its long-awaited conclusive report on Saddam's genocidal record. As far as I know, the major news media have not picked up the report, which is available on the Internet at HRW's Web site. I read about the report in the British press. It turns out that in 19 months HRW's experts have not been able to find the missing 100,000 bodies it said were of Kurds who had been rounded up and trucked south of Kurdistan, machine-gunned to death, and buried in mass graves.

NK does many many bad things, but we will do nothing about it because they have Nukes. End of story.

As usual Brian feels that the bad people of the world are perfect and do no harm.

I'd love to go and see the DPRK.

Their national songs are fantastic, one of which tells of Kim Jung Il's superhuman powers! ("No motherland without you (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Market/2978/music/Kim-JIe.html)" - ignore the shit midi, the original has a huge choir, brass etc.)

<table border=0><tr><td><center>LONG LIVE THE DEAR LEADER!</center></td></tr><tr><td>http://www.holyshitake.com/images/kimjongil/kim.jpg</td></tr></table>

Well one has to have superpowers to keep the country in such a shit state

Not really, China doesn't have all that good relations with NK. Last year I read that China did an assessment that showed even their army can not conquer NK before the NK flatten Seoul.

Also, NK will probably start suicide bombing campaigns against places like the 3 gorge dam not to mention sneezing bird flu and worse a modified small pox into the burgeoning Chinese cities.

1) The only answers I can think of for NK is to either seriously starve the nation into submission while upping the propaganda campaign.
2) Sacrifice Seoul and just bomb NK flat.
3) Sign a peace agreement, feed the entire population and hope that they change in time.

I like number 3.

Michael

Well one has to have superpowers to keep the country in such a shit state

Hahaha, that made me laugh.

US: North Korea does not have oil. Enough said.

1) The only answers I can think of for NK is to either seriously starve the nation into submission while upping the propaganda campaign.
2) Sacrifice Seoul and just bomb NK flat.
3) Sign a peace agreement, feed the entire population and hope that they change in time.

I like number 3.

Michael

I agree with that ... not only would numbers 1 and 2 kill off the people in the concentration camps but innocent civilians outside of the camps. Threat of force should be the last resort (and actual force the one after that) but can't China do something diplomatically, maybe ask for political prisoners to be exiled instead of murdered?