Genius was high when discovered the secrets of life:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art1699.html

Genius was high when discovered the secrets of life:

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art1699.html

he didnt kn0w.

LSD can't be that bad if it helps you unravel the secrets of life.

Wow, and I though Carl Sagan's love of Mary Jane was cool. This is incredible.

They have a philosophy,' Harker told me at the time. 'They believe industrial society will collapse when the oil runs out and that the answer is to change people's mindsets using acid. They believe LSD can help people to see that a return to a natural society based on self-sufficiency is the only way to save themselves.


Wow again.

LSD can't be that bad if it helps you unravel the secrets of life.

and than unravel the truth of life...death

Looks like he wasn't the only one:

"'Dick Kemp told me he met Francis Crick at Cambridge. Crick had told him that some Cambridge academics used LSD in tiny amounts as a thinking tool, to liberate them from preconceptions and let their genius wander freely to new ideas. Crick told him he had perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD."

Most 'geniuses' have had some contact with psychedelia...good read on this is "The Doors of Perception" by Aldous Huxley. I guess its to do with seeing everyday mundane phenomena from a radically novel perspective...well that's what happens to me anyway...lol.

LSD causes synapses to fire more readily and in a less ordered pattern. normally, the brain falls into thinking patterns--"ruts" that blind us to what we don't experience everyday. In the brain, this equates to groups of neurons that are more often used than others. But when LSD enters the bloodstream, it causes connections to be made to neurons that aren't used as often. This enables one to make connections or realize relationships between things that they would otherwise not notice.

What's the negative part of LSD?

Once a realization occurs you cannot unrealise it...but that is not necessarily negative. For many people with a predisposition to freaking out (and some without predisposition) LSD can have profound consequences/madness; conversely it is used and valued as a therapeutic tool.
The LSD 'guru' Timothy Leary suggested that the variables determining whether an LSD experience is positive or negative was about 'set and setting'...mindset and local environment/life history.

Because it is illegal it is difficult to maintain safety and quality also people may become paranoid about illegality and this may feedback into the 'trip' as a negative influence.

What we need are some proper 'mystery schools' where people of the right disposition can engage with LSD/or entheogens in a safe and positive manner.

That's right 'bad trips.' That's it though?

What we need are some proper 'mystery schools' where people of the right disposition can engage with LSD/or entheogens in a safe and positive manner.

Like the Elusian mysteries. Actually, we just call them college.

I agree that if you are crazy, there is a drawback. Otherwise, taking too much can be a drag sometimes, especially in the wrong circumstances. I'll venture these guys did not limit themselves to small doses. Depends what they would consider small, I guess. I consider it my birthright as a human being to be able to venture into this area of consciousness, it should be part of almost everyone's life experience. To not do it at least once is like a tadpole never knowing it's a frog.

What's the negative part of LSD?

Once a realization occurs you cannot unrealise it...but that is not necessarily negative. For many people with a predisposition to freaking out (and some without predisposition) LSD can have profound consequences/madness; conversely it is used and valued as a therapeutic tool.
The LSD 'guru' Timothy Leary suggested that the variables determining whether an LSD experience is positive or negative was about 'set and setting'...mindset and local environment/life history.
When you are on LSD, possibilities for what could be happening around you become more clear to you. Normally, these less-obvious or less-likely possibilities are not consciously realized; they are weeded out by developed efficiency--this is what differentiates the conscious, restrained mind from the subconscious, uninhibited mind.

But while under the influence of LSD, it allows your conscious mind to dip into the subconscious part.

Do you ever experience a dream in which you felt you knew more than you thought about something? or your mind created such a scene that you could not normally imagine? This is because your subconscious mind has a much better ability of association--your emotions aren't taken into account in the process of associating one (or more) thing to another (or more). You have more nerve cells activated simply for association, instead of other processes.

Obviously this does not make up for a good drug to use continually or for any long periods of time. Everything in moderation...

The reason you can go mad is because it is not how our brains developed to operate. Its like an information overload and your brain just can't deal with it all after a point. The only physical detriment to using LSD that I am aware of is that it has a long term effect of causing synapses to "burn out", though this process also occurs due to natural aging and development albeit not as quickly.

Because it is illegal it is difficult to maintain safety and quality also people may become paranoid about illegality and this may feedback into the 'trip' as a negative influence.

What we need are some proper 'mystery schools' where people of the right disposition can engage with LSD/or entheogens in a safe and positive manner.
I agree. The illegality of it only makes its inevitable usage exponentially more dangerous than it would otherwise be. It's not as widely used as cannabis or cocaine and so it is easier to be faked or made with something other than pure LSD. It also is a very delicate chemical and so it deteriorates easily, making it hard to handle or pass down the system.

But it could be a vital analytical tool for any situation. Possibilities just come more easily to you, if you are focused and in control of your psyche. And a good environment is crucial to most people. Anything that would make you even slightly uncomfortable normally, could be many more times so while "tripping". But this feeling is increased with dosage, so in low doses, it may cause you to merely become very enthralled with whatever it is you are doing.

Which is another thing, one must always have something to work on or do while on this drug. It is not a party drug. It is not to get your "fix" or just to get fucked up. You may be inhibited in some normal activities, but you will find many realizations that stick with you even past full sobriety. That is, if you actually do something productive while on it.

Agreed. All drugs (and ingested substances) should be respected and taken in moderation.

It was stronger then wasn't it? Due to people wanting to make a profit it's becoming weaker and weaker so they can make more and more with a smaller amount. right or wrong?

I don't believe so...a molecule is synthesized...a particular amount is taken. To my knowledge strength is not a variable of pure LSD (although quality may be). Whether a dose of LSD is weaker or stronger is dependent on quantity.
The problem in determining strength of street LSD lies in the legal status and lack of provenance/testing/product info.

It was stronger then wasn't it? Due to people wanting to make a profit it's becoming weaker and weaker so they can make more and more with a smaller amount. right or wrong?

Not applicable to LSD, since the active amount is measured in micrograms, not even grams. You can make enough in a weekend for thousands of doses, perhaps millions. Profit is not necessarily the motive.

It was stronger then wasn't it? Due to people wanting to make a profit it's becoming weaker and weaker so they can make more and more with a smaller amount. right or wrong?

you don't even know how right you are. except that it wasn't stronger per se. it cannot be stronger--it is a single chemical named LSD-25. you can't have better or worse samples of the same chemical--it is always the same.

spidergoat and zenbabelfish, you guys are right too, but your rightness has no effect on his rightness... or whatever...

LSD does have a very small dosage, in micrograms as said, but it also has a weak chemical bond and is very hard to make. since it is also rare, the people who make it are many times inexperienced and so problems arise. Even if the batch is good, then it can easily go bad by being exposed to water, heat or light, which either only makes it a lot less potent, or it will do nothing at all. it is also sometimes mixed with something to diffuse it and make it look like theres more. this will lessen the effect considerably as well.

Is this right? (http://www.neonjoint.com/drug_recipes/chapter1.html)

Whilst I know absolutely nothing apart from basic lab chemistry...'ergot' is definitely a hallucinogen. Nobel prizes apart...ergot poisoning is implicated in the fervour of the French Revolution.

I will say this: don't try anything involving advanced chemistry projects unless you are a professional chemist (or knowledgable as one). and if you are, then you won't have to ask if its right or not.

if you're going to delve into chemistry, do not start by making acid... please.

I only say this because it will most likely end up as a monumentous waste of your time and money... possibly health.

Hallucinogens can make extremely positive impacts to a person's quality of life. They open subconscious doors who's locks would otherwise be unbreakable.

On the most extreme side of a trip is ego-death. You don't even know who you are, what your name is, it's as if you're yanking the cord that gives light to your ego.

You're thinking, how the fuck is this a good thing? It reinforces the notion that fundamentally we are all blank slates with layers of conditioning. It is crucial to experientially know that, or you'll inevitably exist in a delusional reality.

The trips to a lesser degree can also show us how fragile we are. There are some people that check the time dozens of times a day, living second by second. I remember one trip living thought by thought. It was as if time had ceased to exist, I had a hundred thoughts in the time I could usually have one or two. I would check the clock expecting a good half an hour to go by and it was only a matter of seconds - very weird.

Early on I speculated that I had stopped thinking in words, so I was no longer limited by construing sentences and talking them out to myself. But I'm really not sure that's even possible anymore.

Weird things happen that alter your perception with hallucinogens.

More philosophically, it can help straighten your life out, well at least it has for me. Actually that will take a bit of typing, I'll explain more if anyone wants.

About the danger, it is totally subjective. Physically, alcohol is much worse, and everyone's done that. Mentally it can be dangerous if you're unstable. Say you've got schizophrenia - psychedelics will only make it worse. But if you meditate every day and really get to know your mind, these drugs act as a tool.

I remember a Buddhist monk who ingested with Timothy Leary say his trip was equivalent to years of meditation. But if a fundamentalist Christian chick took it, I'm sure it would be the most horrible experience of her life.

Bad trips can happen to anyone. They happen most frequently in the form of mental-loops - where you just start thinking the same thing, over and over and over*. I have fallen into them before, but since I have experience dealing with my mind I was able to overcome it easily. Others I've known to curse the drug and never touch it again after a bad-trip. But really, if your trip is bad it's because something in your sober life is bad, and needs to get ironed out.

I've been talking about mushroom trips by the way, I've never done LSD. I do have 4 hits of it in my freezer though, so the day draws nearer.

I'll be happy to answer ?s to you prospective users

*I'm not talking simply like " gotta get some cheese, gotta get some cheese, gotta get some cheese, gotta get some cheese, gotta get some cheese"

I'm talking about
"
What am I going to do now?
I'm on mushrooms.
Why am I on mushrooms?
Because I ate them a few hours ago.
What am I going to do now?
I'm on mushrooms
Why am I on mushrooms?
Because I ate them a few hours ago.
What am I going to do now?
"

albeit more complex, they usually come in the form of decision making,

I would check the clock expecting a good half an hour to go by and it was only a matter of seconds - very weird.
This is definately a characteristic of many mushroom trips (psilocybin).

Early on I speculated that I had stopped thinking in words, so I was no longer limited by construing sentences and talking them out to myself. But I'm really not sure that's even possible anymore.
There was one very strange experience like this that I once had with three other people.

Usually while under hallucinogenic influence, I rarely ever have lucid hallucinations, or see vividly something that is not there. What i see are fractalization of lights, trails in moving objects, modulation in depths, basically simple morphs of relative visual extrapolation.

But this time I was playing the guitar--some improvised, psychadelic song that kept building--and someone was smiling, someone was dancing, and another was laughing. All of the sudden, all these people and things swirled up together into a tornado-like vortex. But it wasn't visual, it was as if it was happening both in my mind (as a dream) but in reality because my eyes were open. I felt one of my friends talking in my head, conveying ideas without saying anything, even though i could imagine the voice that went along with the notions i was recieving. i felt the dancing, the talking, and the laughing caught up in my song as it wound around and around.

and just as quickly as it began, it stopped. and when it stopped, everyone just paused, looking at each other. i stopped playing. Then i asked them, "did you feel that?" they all agreed--we all agreed on the feeling of some kind of vortex experience intertwining our actions and thoughts. It was as if we had suddenly all happened upon a mutual connection and we were temporarily able to communicate ultimately, without speaking. Not like telepathy, but just that we were so in tune with what everyone was doing.

the rest of the night we spent trying to figure it out.

I've been talking about mushroom trips by the way, I've never done LSD. I do have 4 hits of it in my freezer though, so the day draws nearer.
mushrooms are by far more extreme and primal than LSD. the fungus will grab hold of your psyche and pull them one way or another. you become more wild and child-like--naively playful or scared to death.

LSD has a more lucid--clearminded feeling. On low doses, you feel as though your thoughts are running very quickly, but your conscious mind is still in control and you can focus more easily.


Some recorded experiences on LSD:

I was playing a song on my guitar and kept thinking that the song was so simple and stupid. I figured that our consciousness is a simplified and organized collection of energy and that we are constantly trying to get back to the disorder; we are constantly trying to reach a greater diversity and with it, a closer connection with what is happening around us. It was entropy in action and I was a part of it.

All our lives we are predisposed to form order and clarity through simplicity. But the really intelligent of us find out that truth only comes with diversity and chaos. You can never be at balance with the universe; you must always be in a state of constant change. Death releases us from the confines of order and our energy is released into the chaotic universe. Energy is always trying to get back to the chaos.

Life is the chaotic energy which falls--by due process of the dimension of causality—towards the organized center—analogous to how gravity, on the largest scale, brings density to the center but flings large amounts of diffused and spread out matter far out around it (inertia). This organized center, the collection of life, is a feedback system through which the universe allows energy to manifest itself in conscious introspection. It is a more complex way in which cause results in an action. Instead of being directly governed by universal constants and the interactions with which they pertain to, energy is now able to make connections where there were no connections before. New deeper and more complex interactions arise governed by this intricate web of constantly changing variables; our minds are shaped as we shape the world around us.

Heisenberg’s principle of uncertainty states, simply put, that within bounds, it is impossible to know exactly where a particle is going to be because of the momentum it has. The observer effect states that the observation of an event changes that event; or that you cannot observe anything without also affecting it in some way. Thus it is impossible to know how the universe acts in the absence of our presence. This brings to mind the question “If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a noise?” Now, I know intuitively that yes, it would cause vibrations to move out in waves through the forest, affecting it as they passed. But, the presence of a human means that interpretation is made, and that interpretation is that the vibrations are translated into sound. So what we find is that without that human there--or better yet without any animal who senses vibrations as sound--then the falling tree makes no sound. But there are still vibrations because there is matter and energy present that is affected by those vibrations. Without the presence of something that can be affected by an action, that action does not occur.

Search & Destroy,
I'd like to hear more about how it straightened out your life. Psychedelics were initially showing themselves to be very useful for psychiatry, but that all got ruined (although research is starting back up). Its also intersting that the tripping works with the same neurotransmitters that anti-depressants do (serotonin).

Search & Destroy,
I'd like to hear more about how it straightened out your life. Psychedelics were initially showing themselves to be very useful for psychiatry, but that all got ruined (although research is starting back up). Its also intersting that the tripping works with the same neurotransmitters that anti-depressants do (serotonin).

Mushrooms preserve the individual. It changes our reality by amplifying and mixing around certain aspects of living.

I am the same person I was a few hours ago, but there are certain changes I've noticed.

For one my decision making process are extremely vivid.

I am consciouslly aware of the present moment. And all layers on top of that. I have goals - in two hours I will meet a friend. And below that in 20 minutes I will probably go eat some food. But right now is where I exist. The differientiation between the now and the later is critical in my thought process.

My physical moves... well breathing still comes normally. But above that, deciding the move to a new spot poses problems that when sober never show up. I'm not sure if they exist in sobriety but go unnoticed, or if mushrooms create this difficulty. Walking a few feet seems intensly difficult. But mushrooms are largly intellectual, and I understand the movment is all inside of wil. Once that is established I am able to walk with ease physically. It is just more difficult intellectually because I have such control over my wil and it would rather give up.

And the problem of what am I diong right now never ceases to persist. Because I exist only right now, not in ten minutes.

I am going to move on, translating my mind to words is too difficult and I can't be bothered by it anymore.

To actually answer your question however - it was the nature of my circumstances. I was far away from a home, far away from any people except my close friends, and consuming mind altering chemicals.

I stepped back and saw my own life from a 3rd person perspective. Everything is more complicated than I describe, but it should be enough to get the jist.

Furhtermore, this typing is too complicated right now, I'll properly address your question later.

And if you havn't figured out I'm tripping decently hard on some mushromos right now.

:)

Great book on this subject is 'Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream' by Jay Stevens.
Also relating to drugs and genius: 'The Doors of Perception' by Aldous Huxley (ideas and genius are reflections of inner symbols), and, 'The Archaic Revival' by Terrence McKenna (the suggestion here is that a monkey once ate a magic mushroom and self-consciousness developed).

Well, I sucked an opium poppy before I was crowned Queen of Burger King!!!! Good this happen when your happy….am I happy now?