http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/1/2003/08/21/story004.html

go here to read the long story

Hey monkey you must have not read the whole story or just saw what you wanted to see.
Anyways,here is what was also said on that same article.

*Because there are known to be deposits of frozen water on Mars, the findings have important implications for Mars' past climate history. *

They were claiming that there were just not any super large bodies of water on Mars like oceans and such.

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Thanks for sharing.

maybe martians live underground, i mean deep DEEEP underground or in a tiny miniscule form that is embedded inside those frozen waters.

Funny how in the 50's they made lots of classic B movies of Martians invading earth and such. I mean nothing on Uranus or Pluto?

That's interesting though. they also say that Calisto (one of the moons of Jupiter) I think it's Cali who claim to have evidence of water deposits.

I doubt Mars has any life, let alone any intelligent life-heck, we don't even have much down here on Earth!

Seriously, there is a good chance life would be found on Mars, Europa, or anyplace in the solar system where there is water and an energy source so the appropriate chemistry can get going-but intelligent life is another proposition entirely. The contingent conditions needed for complex life-forms with intelligence to evolve add up (see 'Rare Earth') and appear to make it unlikely, and the discovery of 'Hot Jupiters' doesn't seem to bode well for ET. We may be faced with the proposition most of the universe only has bacteria, and us. (I'd like to see what the theologians make of that-a universe optimally designed for bugs).

There seems to be no evidence of limestone buildup to support the "large bodies of water" scenerio. With the amount of CO2 that Mars has it should have had some sort of limestone had there been a large mass of water in its past.

i think there is water on mars , i saw on the news the other day that they found ice on mars .

water can traditionally take 3 forms: frozen/liquid/vapour
noone doubts the existance of ice on Mars, but we're interested in liquid water

Water is pretty much needed in aboundace for life "as we know it". While you can always point to small variences in life patterns that exist, it is the main stream of lifes' path where you will find the diversity.

Water existing in ices will probably not be either enough nor in the right form (liquid) for a long enough period of time to do a lot of good.

What its saying is mars never had a warm and wet climate, because it lack carbonates despites produced by large bodies of liquid water. Mars still has plenty of water (ice). Also the results are not conclusive: the surface carbonates could have been destroyed by some unknown process of erosion and decay such a UV radiation and dust storm erosion. If only polar Lander had survive we would know for certain if there is permafrost.

Does anyone think that the planet-wide Martian dust storms may have long buried such limestone deposits? We can only see what is on the surface. To my knowledge, none of the landers we have sent so far have done any drilling. For all we know, they might be buried under a layer of topsoil no more than a few feet deep in places.

:rolleyes:
It common knowledge that parts of the Martian poles are
water ice and there is a possibity that there is water ice
under the surface.

That is true, but the question is not that there is water on Mars, but if Mars once had a sufficiently warm climate to support free, running liquid water across it's surface. I personally think that all the dry riverbeds point to Earth-like times at least for the Northern Hemisphere. There isn't enough proof yet to debunk the currently accepted view of Mars's history.

Originally posted by moementum7
Hey monkey you must have not read the whole story or just saw what you wanted to see.
Anyways,here is what was also said on that same article.

*Because there are known to be deposits of frozen water on Mars, the findings have important implications for Mars' past climate history. *

They were claiming that there were just not any super large bodies of water on Mars like oceans and such.

Peace Out
Thanks for sharing.
no no i've hadn't

Ridiculous!