http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7420907.stm this report comes from Australia. so what the Australians here have to say about this? anything interesting to tell us?
Media ain't trying too hard to downplay it, this didn't even make TV. EDIT: seems BBC may not be telling the entire truth. http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...-islamic-school/2008/05/27/1211654029309.html
What the FUCK Are BBC on about ? It is complete BS that there are no muslim students nearby. The nearby towns of campbelltown, liverpool, glenfield (all within 40 mins drive in traffic) of camden have high muslim populations. Seriously. I would know, any high school student in sydney would know.
Whatever happened to maulvis teaching at home? Don't they need to go to regular school as well? Or is this a regular school for Muslims only? In either case, it seems like a dubious proposition to me. Something like this makes more sense: http://jp.dk/uknews/article1314769.ece
It is, the hype surrounding the event (the protest) was just an attempt to get attention. When the Australian media (rightfully) denied them that. All was quiet before. Personally I'm in favour of choice even if i disagree with the consequences, since in Australia, children do have recourse, if something goes wrong. Some of the witnesses in BBC's report are frightening, If they're true.
Ok, firstly, you cannot allow catholic schools and deny islamic schools without being hypocritical. Secondly, Taking us over, you've got about 15 million people, most of whom are white, the other 6 million (at very extremes), only intent on working their jobs, and getting a good life. Aussie's allow a principle of Fair Go for everyone, "muslims do not fit" is not a definition of Fair Go. Given the lack of Islamic riots or terror attacks on Camden, I don't think that they can fairly say muslims don't fit in this town. Before you say Bali, I would point out that that was directed at westerners in general and would not have occurred had we not joined in invading Iraq.
So now the immigrant Muslims want to segregate themselves from the Australian community, instead of actually trying to integrate? And we should just stand for this? We should should sit back with our mouths shut as they overrun us? FUCK THAT!
So, instead of giving people the choice, we're going to allow catholic schools but not allow Islamic schools ? and all the while clinging on to the hypocrisy of a fair go ?. this isn't segregation from the community, It's an opportunity for muslims to better their education. How exactly are they overruning you ? are 10 million of our 21 million people muslims ?, are they in power ? do they have a ruling party ? Are they ramming down doors demanding you convert ?. Are we called the Islamic Republic of Australia ? Has anyone even proposed that?. So how the fuck are they overrunning us ?
Well, non-Catholics go to Catholic schools and Muslims go to Jewish schools so it should not be. I don't know that any non-Muslims go to Muslim schools though.
The Muslim parents, mostly devout and many of the women wearing the hijab, say they love the ethos of the school, and even the kosher school lunches, which are suitable because halal and kosher dietary rules are virtually identical. The school is also respectful to Islam, setting aside a prayer room for the children and supplying Muslim teachers during Ramadan. At Eid, the Muslim children are wished Eid Mubarak in assembly, and all year round, if they wish, can wear a kufi (hat). Amazingly, dozens of the Muslim children choose instead to wear the Jewish kipah. very nice Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I don't see why we should accommodate a hostile Eastern religion by encouraging its followers to form their own little segregated communities amongst us, upon which they turn around and fuck us in the ass. It's bad enough that Europe suffered that once from the Christians, we don't need it again from the Muslims. As for Muslims getting a better education, why can't they attend a decent public school? Or a private school which doesn't have religious overtones? Allowing them to form their own little segregated communities is the first step to a covert invasion of foreigners. The Palestinians know all about this.
So, You'll only accomodate a "Peaceful" religion like christianity ? If not, I'd like to hear you say that catholic schools should be denied permission too. We should all protest at sites of catholic schools and universities. What about those in catholic schools ?, why can't the exclusive bethren attend public schools ? Or a private school which doesn't have religious overtones (good luck finding one). This isn't forming a segregated community, we're not talking about a australian Gaza version here. I'm talking about the bigoted and idiotic sentiment these protesters have. Goes to show how a literate country has so much ignorance. I'm guessing you'd find theses speeches against Aborigines too.
SAM, im not sure how it is in other countries but in australia there is a basic requirement to go to school. Very few people are "home schooled" and they are inspected and tested by the education department as well as the parents having to submit lession plans ect so that what they are taught is the same as what they would learn under the relivent state education sylibus. As for the issue of muslim schools i belive they have as much right to exist as any other religious system on the condition that (like the catholic schools) they are required to teach everything that state schools must including mainstream science, mainstream sexual education ect. One futher note sam, as for non catholics in catholic schools. The arch bishops have recently ruled that non catholics and even non practicing catholics should be limited (at the very least) in catholic schools. I know this for a fact because my mother actually teaches in a catholic school. Also there is a slight difference between the catholic system and other independent and religious schools. This difference has to do with how many they are and how they are setup and controled. Apart from the apointment of the principle (which is done by the priest) the schools are controle by an eductation buraocrasy (of education specialists) similar to that of the state system (again i have personal experiance in this because i knew the head of education for the arch Diasis of bendigo) rather than being directly controled by a religious group of people (like priests and bishops). Other independent schools tend not to have this berocrasy in place (possably because there systems arent the size of the catholic system)
