No Country For Old Men

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by Plazma Inferno!, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    Is it me, or this movie sucks big ass?

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    Nice plot, chilling suspense, great Javier Bardem acting... All spoiled with crappy ending.

    *** Warning, may contain spoilers ***

    I've never read the book, but I've read various comments and reviews after watching the movie, about well crafted story about duality, how Chigurh is death actually, how he's just sheriff's alter ego who's just dreaming/remembering...

    Things have sense when you read reviews. But I didn't see anything of that in the movie. And that's why it sucks.

    As a fan of Coen brothers, I'm very disappointed with this loss of precious two hours.

    Rate: 2/10
     
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  3. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    I thought it was a good film up until the end, which left a few loose strings.

    Why did Chigurh wipe his feet after leaving Moss' widows house?

    Did he kill her? I'm guessing yes.

    Not as good as Fargo but still 8/10.
     
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  5. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    In book she's dead.
    But, you've probably noticed that he avoids the blood to get on his shoes (in the scene with Carson Wells), so it could be a clue that he left her alive (artistic freedom of rearranging the original story). He was wiping mud, milk, etc.
    Also, she refused to play coin toss, and he has as same expression on his face as in the scene with old lady who refuses to give him info about Moss, after he insisted repeatedly. She stayed alive of course.

    Maybe that's the clue about his 'reaper' nature. Those who refuses to die even after insisting (or are lucky with coin toss) stays alive, while others who try with persuasions end dead.

    One dilemma I've read after the watching concerns duality between Chigurh and Bell.
    They've never met and sheriff had couple of 'clues' that he left like milk that Chigurh was drinking or the scene in the motel when it's clearly that they're both present, sheriff in front of the door, Chigurh in the room, but when sheriff enters, no one's inside.

    Also, at the beginning when Chigurh asks "Would you please step out of the car?"
    Who would step out of the car if outside is not a cop, yet civilian with the air gun?

    One mistery about duality as well, as sides of the coin perhaps.

    Again, all this sounds interesting, but it's not what I saw in the movie.

    So, instead of 9/10, I'm giving 2/10.
     
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  7. kazakhan Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    I was enjoying this movie until it just suddenly stopped and wraps up with the more things change the more they stay the same in a round about way. I was not impressed.
     
  8. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    There was also the bit in the motel room when he killed the three Mexicans without any shoes on. He sat on the bed afterwards and took off his socks.

    I think most people would have been looking forward to the promised duel between Chigurh and Llywellyn and been disappointed that it didn't materialize.

    I'm going to re-rate it 7.5/10.
     
  9. Lordznebula5 Registered Member

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    A great middle. A pathetic ending. Needs a second ending version. Tommy Lee Jones whispering got on me nerves since he whispered about pointless dribble. The one film that got me to want to get drunk for once and not watch another movie as pointless as the one with the Dorothy Hamill haircut. The Spaniard actor was goofy (handsome though). Silly silly.

    I did not want to be sad over boring and painfully uneventful ending.
     
  10. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    I loved it.
     
  11. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    To me the ending is perfect. Life is like that. It's not all Rocky Balboa meets the invincible champ/challenger.

    Sometimes just out of left field you get taken down.

    I think they very consciously made it anti-climactic.

    The 'hero' had some skills and he made it pretty far, but he threw himself into a shitstorm and he was out of his league.

    I read the book, which I also enjoyed, and it has a similar, but if anything bleaker feel.

    I think we just get too used to Hollywood movies with Brad Pitt as the crook and ha ha, and oh, so cool.

    This movie while stylized is closer to real life.

    And better for our sanity. I think Hollywood in general gives us this false feeling that you can just about do anything.

    Bruce Willis, Brad Pitt, Arnold, Stallone....etc.

    Put them in a room with a real pro asshole and they are just blood on the floor. And the real pro asshole would not even be sweating.

    We are also used to heroes and having the focus be on their 'journey' or whatever.

    This movie, especially by not even showing us the 'hero's' death, shifts the focus to process, landscape, and more abstract centers.

    We also get what's his name, the Cheers guy, who is saavy, knows how bad the bad guy is, has swagger, is implicitly talented
    and he gets caught with his pants down easy as pie.

    Because in that world you cannot protect yourself completely.

    No spidey sense.

    That is life.

    All that skill but still someone can get the drop on you and its over. No Harrison Ford makes a bomb or a lasso out of his key ring shenanigens.
     
  12. Roman Banned Banned

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    I liked it. It took me a little while to figure out if I did or not, but in the end, I liked it's incompleteness. Killing the protagonist 3/4th through was interesting.

    And he definitely killed the wife.
     
  13. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    so did i!

    i saw it when it was realised in the cinemas and loved it,
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I liked the ending, it was unexpected and gave the movie a philosophical quality it would have lacked if they wrapped up everything in a neat happy package. The story ends like death, without warning and unplanned.
     
  15. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    "It ain't just the one thing, it's the whole put together..."
     
  16. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    nicely put,,
    its a cinematographic masterpiece that most Americans weened out on tits and guns/ good always wins over evil...cant comprehend !!
     
  17. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    I thought it was pretty good. They left the ending up to your imagination and open enough for a sequel maybe? :shrug:
     

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