I don't normally single people out and in this case I choose to make an exception. Nikelodeon has over 10,000 posts and yet after searching through a large sampling of them I cannot find anything of substance. Most of his posts are 1-2 liners with the occasional 3 liner on the far horizon.

I noted that alot of Nik's posted content is that of subtle antagonism. If in 10,000+ posts, a member's contributions amount to nothing more than spam I have to wonder if that member really should belong here.

So I ask the question. Nikelodeon, why are you here?

I can't answer for Nik, but I make a little shrine in the Cesspool towards his one liners.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76371

Well he made the place a more happier and more enjoyable to coexist in, in harmony and peace. Nik has what it takes to stay ahead of the crowd and single out the propositions made by others by giving the most intricate and cheerful responses that, even thou seem to diassembly the topic, in the end bring us all to co-understading of the main issue at hand that is social endeavor at which we strive for coexisting harmony, as I have said earlier.

The very essence of his words bring out the depth of the meaning within the context, so inspiring and rehabilitating are his words that even the most insencere individuals within the crowd melt away from their self inflicted sorrows and start joining the most aspiring conversation ever to take place in the history of humankind (http://www.namikaze.org/software/idinaloq/index_e.html#download), to say the least the universe at hand is to be gracious for such honor.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3592/nikja7.jpg

...I poop on him

Crunchy---

Whatever objections you have to Nik, he should be totally redeemed by this post:

Thats so true. I tried to milk my wife and she fucking threw a fit. But she let me before I married her.

Crunchy---

Whatever objections you have to Nik, he should be totally redeemed by this post:

ROFL

If in 10,000+ posts, a member's contributions amount to nothing more than spam
aahh....but what quality of spam...



I have to wonder if that member really should belong here.
why not?

So I ask the question. Nikelodeon, why are you here?
....and the reason you're here.....

....and the reason you're here.....

the same reason I am here. to be here.

Well he made the place a more happier and more enjoyable to coexist in, in harmony and peace.

How?


...Nik has what it takes to stay ahead of the crowd and single out the propositions made by others by giving the most intricate and cheerful responses that, even thou seem to diassembly the topic, in the end bring us all to co-understading of the main issue at hand that is social endeavor at which we strive for coexisting harmony, as I have said earlier.
...
...
...



Oh heh... scratch that last question. I should have read your the whole post before pressing the reply button.

Crunchy---

Whatever objections you have to Nik, he should be totally redeemed by this post:

Beautiful. I wish there was an award emoticon haha.

How?

Oh heh... scratch that last question. I should have read your the whole post before pressing the reply button.

thank you merciful and dearest of all.

aahh....but what quality of spam...

On a scale of 1 - 10 I would give it an N/A.


why not?

Because spam isn't valuable.


....and the reason you're here.....

My number one reason is to skin Muslims alive and drink their blood. The minor reasons are to debate, learn, educate, challenge, experiment, and share.

This thread sucks with no nik to comment.

This thread sucks with no nik to comment.

be patient, the lord shall grace us with his presence any day now.

thank you merciful and dearest of all.

Double sarcasm and satire. Nice. Sounds like you're on your way to becoming a reformed myuuintarian.

My number one reason is to skin Muslims alive and drink their blood.
aah...one of them crackers who only has cahunas sitting on his lard ass infront of his pc.

untermensch


The minor reasons are to debate, learn, educate, challenge, experiment, and share.
bullshit.
you're living in la la land cracker.

nick's 1000x more valuable to this place than you, but don't get me wrong, this place needs trash like you to keep the moronic cracker quota topped up,

outlandish please keep this conversation to minimum-to-none of cursing and accusations.

The minor reasons are to ... experiment, and share.

aah...one of them crackers who only has cahunas sitting on his lard ass infront of his pc.

untermensch

bullshit.
you're living in la la land cracker.

nick's 1000x more valuable to this place than you, but don't get me wrong, this place needs trash like you to keep the moronic cracker quota topped up,



Thank you for being an example so willingly.

http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Nickelodeon_%28SciForums_member%29

Thank you for being an example so willingly.

experiment with what?
share what exactly?

please spare me your "lofty" reasons for your supposed continued presence here (like the stale skidmarks that adorn your undercrackers)...it's nauseating, and quite frankly i'm happier with nick's spam.

http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Nickelodeon_%28SciForums_member%29

I aspire to be like him

http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Nickelodeon_%28SciForums_member%29

Those gif's are far out :).

I don't normally single people out and in this case I choose to make an exception. Nikelodeon has over 10,000 posts and yet after searching through a large sampling of them I cannot find anything of substance.

You do have a point. He might just be spamming to get spurious' website noticed...

experiment with what?
share what exactly?

Experiment to show why you are incapable of simple face-value comprehension.


please spare me your "lofty" reasons for your supposed continued presence here (like the stale skidmarks that adorn your undercrackers)...it's nauseating, and quite frankly i'm happier with nick's spam.

I've noticed that stupid people tend to ask questions which they don't want to hear the answers to. Which of course is also dishonest... but that's really your problem anyhow.

I've noticed that stupid people tend to ask questions which they don't want to hear the answers to

Then why did you ask if Nik belongs here or not?

Get a fucking sense of humor :rolleyes:

You do have a point. He might just be spamming to get spurious' website noticed...

I can understand that he is loyal to spurious forums and might currently be spamming it up to promote it. Looking at Nik's posting history even farther back than spurious forums existence shows similar results. It of course leads to the question of why? I hope Nik responds at some point.

I dont see why he would justify your annoying bitching with a response.

Then why did you ask if Nik belongs here or not?

Get a fucking sense of humor :rolleyes:

Because I want to hear the answer? If something is actually on your mind then please bring it up.

Because I want to hear the answer? If something is actually on your mind then please bring it up.

I dont see any reason why anyone who wants to post here cant just go ahead and do it at their leisure. The mods are the ultimate judge of whether a person really belongs here or not, they seem to not mind him so obviously he is welcome here. :D

I dont see any reason why anyone who wants to post here cant just go ahead and do it at their leisure. The mods are the ultimate judge of whether a person really belongs here or not, they seem to not mind him so obviously he is welcome here. :D

I agree. I think anyone whom wants to participate should be able to post at their leisure. Nik doesn't really seem to be participating and with 10,000+ posts of non-participation (which is an increadible trend) I would like to know why he's here. I am not trying to witch-hunt Nik into a ban. I am not trying to say that Nik is a bad person. I am questioning whether Nik and this site are a good match for each other and what Nik's motivation is to post in the manner that he does?

I agree. I think anyone whom wants to participate should be able to post at their leisure. Nik doesn't really seem to be participating and with 10,000+ posts of non-participation (which is an increadible trend) I would like to know why he's here. I am not trying to witch-hunt Nik into a ban. I am not trying to say that Nik is a bad person. I am questioning whether Nik and this site are a good match for each other and what Nik's motivation is to post in the manner that he does?

Well it would seem that you assume your definition of participation is the same as everyone elses. Nik may not post long in depth posts, but he is funny, and after hours of reading unhumorous and pedantic babbling sometimes I need a good laugh.

Well it would seem that you assume your definition of participation is the same as everyone elses. Nik may not post long in depth posts, but he is funny, and after hours of reading unhumorous and pedantic babbling sometimes I need a good laugh.

I am all for comedy breaks, non-sequiteurs, random silliness... etc. It's good to have that be a part of people's presence but it shouldn't solely define them. I can't imagine you came to a science site solely to be entertained by one liners. There is one exercise that I would ask of you so you can see what I am seeing. Take a look through Nik's posts (any / all of them) and find a single one one that contributes to knowledge, critical thinking, research, help, etc. If you find a single one, I will apologize and drop this thread.

Looking at Nik's posting history even farther back than spurious forums existence shows similar results.

Hm, interesting. For good measure, I put him on ignore for personal attack. This thread proves that I am not missing out on anything...

By the way if I wanted to get more people over there, I would just PM the posters whom I like. After all you need only a few people for a good conversation....

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? :D

:jawdrop: Please do include a link to that post :).

Hm, interesting. For good measure, I put him on ignore for personal attack. This thread proves that I am not missing out on anything...

By the way if I wanted to get more people over there, I would just PM the posters whom I like. After all you need only a few people for a good conversation....

He might be resentful because alot of people (I am assuming are his friends) have ended up there because of bans. That might of course impact the way he promotes things.

:jawdrop: Please do include a link to that post :).

...grr do have any idea how long its going to take me to find that link? dfsdfsdf:mad:

...grr do have any idea how long its going to take me to find that link? dfsdfsdf:mad:

Hahahahahha :p! I am actually impressed that you were able to find anything, but yes I do have an idea as I also searched but didn't come up with any hits :(.

Hahahahahha :p! I am actually impressed that you were able to find anything, but yes I do have an idea as I also searched but didn't come up with any hits :(.


If you find a single one, I will apologize and drop this thread.

Well feel free to drop out of this thread at anytime :D

Send me the links and lets see their context :). The more important part:

grr do have any idea how long its going to take me to find that link? dfsdfsdf

Is that hopefully you have seen something. For a user with 10,000+ posts it shouldn't be that difficult to find a bonified contribution.

*&^%$ :mad:
I was all geeked and excited. I thought this thread was about the Nickelodeon channel and I was gonna go on and on about Spongebob

My question is: who IS nick? A man? A female? How old is he/she? What does he/she do for a living?

nick is obviously engineer, that is definite

Nick has greatly contributed to the Sci-forums encyclopedia. Ever read about East Korea?

I love it when nik breaks up a serious debate with a one liner.. Leaves me laughing.. then pissed.

*&^%$ :mad:
I was all geeked and excited. I thought this thread was about the Nickelodeon channel and I was gonna go on and on about Spongebob

Hahahaha, sorry about that Orleander. Maybe I'll post something spongeworthy in the future :).

Nick has greatly contributed to the Sci-forums encyclopedia. Ever read about East Korea?

Spammed with spurious monkey all over it. I get the impression that Nik's current motivation is to do anything so long as it's not an actual contribution.

Spammed with spurious monkey all over it.

Well. That's not really what happened. The thing is that Spurious, Nick, Redarmy and a few others contributed greatly to the wiki. Since the wiki doesn't host pictures, Spurious hosted many of the pictures on his site. After he was banned, he changed the pictures to pics that point to his forum. It's actually standard treatment for hotlinkers. The difference is that he originally allowed these pictures to be hosted on his site for the specific purpose of hotlinking to sci. So, it's a bit childish, but his prerogative. I missed the East Korea page when I first found out he did this a while back. Probably missed others too. The thing is that a LOT of the wiki was created by Nick and crew. Thus, there are likely a lot of these pictures embedded in there.

It's a shame that Spurious did this, really. The entries were really imaginative and funny and changing the pictures just ruins them.


Anyway.
Nik's ok.
He's not much on debate or scientific/philosophical discussion, but he is witty and that has a place here.
The animosity that he and others have developed recently is unfortunate, but in many ways understandable. I hope that he'll get it out of his system at some point. But, he does have some legitimate reasons for feeling as he does.

Basically, what he's doing now, or so it seems, is digging up hypocrisy or whatever. He resurrects a thread from years ago with buffys boob avatar to stir up the pot. Even got a newb to report it. Many of his other resurrections are of a similar nature.

He's trying to point out that the rules here aren't followed strictly and that this implies corruption (I guess). He's trying to show that some people get away with things that other people don't get away with.
He ignores context, of course.

I'm unsure if he actually wants the rules followed strictly and mechanically or if he's advocating loosening up of the rules.
The former is disgusting to even think about it.
And the latter would be difficult as we're pretty damned loose around here already despite the occasional flareups.

Anyway.
He's better than many around here these days.

Invert, thanks for all the great information.

Well. That's not really what happened. The thing is that Spurious, Nick, Redarmy and a few others contributed greatly to the wiki. Since the wiki doesn't host pictures, Spurious hosted many of the pictures on his site. After he was banned, he changed the pictures to pics that point to his forum. It's actually standard treatment for hotlinkers. The difference is that he originally allowed these pictures to be hosted on his site for the specific purpose of hotlinking to sci. So, it's a bit childish, but his prerogative. I missed the East Korea page when I first found out he did this a while back. Probably missed others too. The thing is that a LOT of the wiki was created by Nick and crew. Thus, there are likely a lot of these pictures embedded in there.

I didn't know that. It sounds like plazma might want to consider some web space for wiki images. I really hate to ask it, but what specifically did Nik contribute to the wiki?



It's a shame that Spurious did this, really. The entries were really imaginative and funny and changing the pictures just ruins them.

I agree, I remember some interesting content that spurious would post. I guess he just felt too hurt and needed revenge to cope.



Anyway.
Nik's ok.
He's not much on debate or scientific/philosophical discussion, but he is witty and that has a place here.

I agree and at the same time wit doesn't add value if that's all a person's postings are defined by.



The animosity that he and others have developed recently is unfortunate, but in many ways understandable. I hope that he'll get it out of his system at some point. But, he does have some legitimate reasons for feeling as he does.

I didn't realize that Nik was hurt. If part of his posting is an expression of resentment and there is no real contribution from the past (pending the wiki answer of course) then to me and others (as you have seen) he is only adding spam.



Basically, what he's doing now, or so it seems, is digging up hypocrisy or whatever. He resurrects a thread from years ago with buffys boob avatar to stir up the pot. Even got a newb to report it. Many of his other resurrections are of a similar nature.

I can't find any value in his actions. The result is just spam.



He's trying to point out that the rules here aren't followed strictly and that this implies corruption (I guess). He's trying to show that some people get away with things that other people don't get away with.
He ignores context, of course.

Is it a revelation to him that humans aren't perfect? He sounds obsessed with rules.



I'm unsure if he actually wants the rules followed strictly and mechanically or if he's advocating loosening up of the rules.
The former is disgusting to even think about it.
And the latter would be difficult as we're pretty damned loose around here already despite the occasional flareups.

I think that anyone whom is so focused on rules is missing out.



Anyway.
He's better than many around here these days.

I don't know. I can't see his posts being much different than 3rd parties whom advertise cell phones and viagra on this site.

Some of the people here on sci are really judgemental cunts aren't they?

Is that your final judgement?

I don't normally single people out and in this case I choose to make an exception. Nikelodeon has over 10,000 posts and yet after searching through a large sampling of them I cannot find anything of substance. Most of his posts are 1-2 liners with the occasional 3 liner on the far horizon.

I noted that alot of Nik's posted content is that of subtle antagonism. If in 10,000+ posts, a member's contributions amount to nothing more than spam I have to wonder if that member really should belong here.

So I ask the question. Nikelodeon, why are you here?

dear Crunching Cats

I hope you are well.

I have to take objection with your post.

Nik's posts are genreally very humourus and witty and i think people like him shoudl be encouraged as they take a light hearted approach which is great in light of some heated exchanges.

Most of his posts here bring a smile to my face and he just is a great guy...

Also he does post seriously, i have read many posts on US foreign policy etc,,,, where he has had intelectual and sometimes heated discussions with the likes of the Buffalo, (who for other reasons is a great guy)

So i will not have you talking shit about him

As you can see most people appreciate his efforts on this forum, like Oreleander for example who obviously shares my appreciation for his quick and sharp wit

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Take care
zak

dear Crunching Cats

I hope you are well.

I have to take objection with your post.

Hello and all is well.


Nik's posts are genreally very humourus and witty and i think people like him shoudl be encouraged as they take a light hearted approach which is great in light of some heated exchanges.

Can you honestly tell me you value this?:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76371



Most of his posts here bring a smile to my face and he just is a great guy...

Take a look at his past 10, 20, 50, 100 posts. I mean really take a look at them. I am not saying Nik is a bad guy.



Also he does post seriously, i have read many posts on US foreign policy etc,,,, where he has had intelectual and sometimes heated discussions with the likes of the Buffalo, (who for other reasons is a great guy)

So i will not have you talking shit about him

Can you show me one? Just one.


As you can see most people appreciate his efforts on this forum, like Oreleander for example who obviously shares my appreciation for his quick and sharp wit

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Take care
zak

Here is what I have seen. Several members taking neutral positions, two members agreeing with me, and several members appreciating Nick's wit. Show me his heated intellectual discussions on US foreign policy.

Crunchy, I know what you mean. But you need to take another look, see his threads for example. Most non-recent are serious.
http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=1909502
Well... ok, semi-serious. But some are serious.
You can't say he's worse than a lot of others anyway.

crunching cats

this is one for a start


Or I could just carry on living in a country that has universal healthcare.

in this thread#

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76286

This is the best thread ever created in the About the Member subforum! just kidding :p


I don't normally single people out and in this case I choose to make an exception.


I dont feel surprised, because, as you yourself said later:


I noted that alot of Nik's posted content is that of subtle antagonism.


I have also noticed that, lately, but in the beginning it was a
different story.

These are some examples of Nik earlier posts history:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1238517&postcount=12

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1238531&postcount=14


I found him also helpful in computer subforums, once I think he
suggested me how to solve my task manager problem. Here are
example of Nik contribution in the computer subforum:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240649&postcount=10

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240646&postcount=9


Some of his early participation in scientific discussions:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240872&postcount=56

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240869&postcount=54

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1237197&postcount=32

However, I haven't been here long enough, so I don't know the rest...

you're such a sweetie insomniza


i take it you are killign your exams now!!

Crunchy Cat, you must be kidding or pulling our chain.
Nickolodeon is a great poster and capable of sustained original humour. Humour is one of mankinds greatest gifts and a hugely underrated science.

Hail Nick and the incisive one-liner.

you're such a sweetie insomniza


i take it you are killign your exams now!!

I have no more exam Zak ;) just master thesis preparations and finalizing
some projects reports. :bawl:

Ok gtg for now, take care.

Game set and Match Crunching cats!!! this is so one sided its like Brazil taking on mauritius in football!!! (obviously we are brazil)

nice one Spud, my sweetheart inzonia and all the rest

now may you pls take back your nonsense posts about Nick???!!!!

Alternatively you can say you were wrong and we were right and offer to suck a dead mans dick in return

that is if you're big enough!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
take care
zak

This is the best thread ever created

Man, what a soap opera. We should offer it to NBC....

Most users ever online was 1,830, 06-21-07 at 05:04 PM.,

This was update time. Just bigger bot activity, nothing more.

This was update time. Just bigger bot activity, nothing more.

aoopss.. sorry, Plazma :o

Btw, I would like to let people know that I have edited my former post:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1714919&postcount=56

I have removed some of the texts there, because I think I have assume too far. :) the soap opera :o

I posted that I liked Nik and thought he was funny. The post was
deleted. :( WTF? Now my nowhere-near-controversial posts are being deleted too? WTF? :(

crunching cats

this is one for a start




in this thread#

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76286

That certainly is a knowledge contribution :rolleyes:

Crunchy, I know what you mean. But you need to take another look, see his threads for example. Most non-recent are serious.
http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=1909502
Well... ok, semi-serious. But some are serious.
You can't say he's worse than a lot of others anyway.

Sorry, that link doesn't appear to work. Again, I don't have any issue with non-serious threads.

That certainly is a knowledge contribution :rolleyes:


and what about the ones which the inzomnia posted

now crunching cats its is time.... are you big enough though

This is the best thread ever created in the About the Member subforum! just kidding :p


I dont feel surprised, because, as you yourself said later:


I have also noticed that, lately,...

I am glad you noticed that as well. Do you consider it valuable? Any insights into why he does it? Does he feel he is contributing? I do appreciate that you are taking the time to look around and see what I am seeing. I wish Nik would come by and answer the original questions.



but in the beginning it was a
different story.

These are some examples of Nik earlier posts history:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1238517&postcount=12

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1238531&postcount=14


I found him also helpful in computer subforums, once I think he
suggested me how to solve my task manager problem. Here are
example of Nik contribution in the computer subforum:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240649&postcount=10

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240646&postcount=9


Some of his early participation in scientific discussions:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240872&postcount=56

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1240869&postcount=54

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1237197&postcount=32

However, I haven't been here long enough, so I don't know the rest...

I am really glad you found those. While those posts are not the most in-depth they do clearly show that at some point in the far off past Nik made a an effort. To some extent, that is a relief as I found it really difficult to imagine anyone coming to a site and defining his presence with nothing of substance.

So what changed? How did Nik's handful of posts above give spawn to the thousands of others which don't share those attributes? It seems like you are seeing what I am seeing and also pointed out that in the very beginning (which was quite a long time ago), there were some positive differences.

To Nik: Apologies for the implication that 100% of your posts were spam. Clearly in the very beginning you showed an intention to share real knowledge and even help others. It does appear to be a minority of your posts (seeing as how it took this long to even find them) and multiple users have ackowledged the 1-2 liner / subtle antagonistic posts which appear to be the majority. I do hope you take the opportunity to address the original question.

Crunchy Cat, you must be kidding or pulling our chain.
Nickolodeon is a great poster and capable of sustained original humour. Humour is one of mankinds greatest gifts and a hugely underrated science.

Hail Nick and the incisive one-liner.


Hahhahaha. Love the underated science bit.

crunching cats

thank you for the apology.. Nick doesnt really give shit about you and all the bullshit you're stressing though..

It would also be good if you cut the arrogance in wanting an explanation from Nick, as if he needs to answer to you.

if plazma and the mob feel fit they can restrict him how they want..

if he wants to post like that then so be it, as if everyone thinks you post are so fuckin amazing anyway!!!

Just stop this victimisation of one guys posts, it aint fuckin health to the muthafckin forum and uis another fuckin example why this forum IMHO is going to pot.

~~~~~~~~~
Out Zak

Game set and Match Crunching cats!!! this is so one sided its like Brazil taking on mauritius in football!!! (obviously we are brazil)

I think you are confusing a game with a genuine concern.


now may you pls take back your nonsense posts about Nick???!!!!

I don't think they are nonsense and several users have agreed with my observations so far (even inzomnia who really found the only evidence to support Nik at last trying several times in the beginning).


Alternatively you can say you were wrong and we were right and offer to suck a dead mans dick in return

that is if you're big enough!!!


'We'? Now, if I didn't like you I would offer to suck your wife's dick accordingly but it turns out that I do in fact like you and respect your contributions so I shall refrain on the ad-hom.

Man, what a soap opera. We should offer it to NBC....

I've already signed the pilot contract ;).

I posted that I liked Nik and thought he was funny. The post was
deleted. :( WTF? Now my nowhere-near-controversial posts are being deleted too? WTF? :(

Don't worry Sandy, I see this message. Aside from the comedy factor have you engaged Nik with anything of more substance (or vice versa)?

Don't worry Sandy, I see this message. Aside from the comedy factor have you engaged Nik with anything of more substance (or vice versa)?

Look, I like him. I don't care what you or anyone else says. He's funny and has a great sense of humor.

I don't normally single people out and in this case I choose to make an exception. Nikelodeon has over 10,000 posts and yet after searching through a large sampling of them I cannot find anything of substance. Most of his posts are 1-2 liners with the occasional 3 liner on the far horizon.

I noted that alot of Nik's posted content is that of subtle antagonism. If in 10,000+ posts, a member's contributions amount to nothing more than spam I have to wonder if that member really should belong here.

So I ask the question. Nikelodeon, why are you here?


What has it got to do with you?

Seriously, who are you to speak about the contributions of forum members?

If you don’t like his posts, put him on ignore and keep quiet. It’s that simple. And I doubt you've even interacted with the guy. As far as I’m concerned sciforums needs Nik (as well as spuriousmonkey and his crew).

I don't think its nice to pick on forum members.

crunching cats

thank you for the apology.. Nick doesnt really give shit about you and all the bullshit you're stressing though..

I know you mean well but my apology was not to you nor should you be anthropomoprhizing Nik's position (whatever it may be). If Nik really doesn't care about a genuine concern a fellow member is bringing up (mind you a concern with alot of evidence) then he should say so. It would speak volumes about his intentions and I can't imagine you would maintain the same loyalty to him if he came back (just for example) with a clear intent to be destructive to both the site and its members.



It would also be good if you cut the arrogance in wanting an explanation from Nick, as if he needs to answer to you.

I reject your request to not care. Sorry.



if plazma and the mob feel fit they can restrict him how they want..

if he wants to post like that then so be it, as if everyone thinks you post are so fuckin amazing anyway!!!

Just stop this victimisation of one guys posts, it aint fuckin health to the muthafckin forum and uis another fuckin example why this forum IMHO is going to pot.

~~~~~~~~~
Out Zak

I think we have two different approaches on how to handle a concern that involves another member directly. I think we both care about the other posters and this site and want the best for both. At the same time I have to ask the question, is it better to say nothing and appease the problem or risk appearing to be trying to drum up a lynch mob? The answer to that question of course is where I think we differ.

Look, I like him. I don't care what you or anyone else says. He's funny and has a great sense of humor.

I understand that Sandy and I am glad you like him and his sense of humor. That quality is a part of Nik and I am not saying he is a bad person. When you joined this science site, were you strictly joining to meet funny people?

I am glad you noticed that as well. Do you consider it valuable?

Unless people didn't read Nik's recent posts, or they are very new comers,
I doubt people did not notice.

Do I consider it valuable? There are some of his posts which I read contain
information or refreshing humour, and I consider them valuable. There are also
some which are not, in fact a bit disturbing, but it doesn't bother me much,
because none of them are personal attacks, not to me at least...



Any insights into why he does it?

No I don't have any insights, but I do have some assumptions. One of the
assumptions could be related to this:
http://www.sciforums.com:80/showthread.php?t=73861

I noticed that before and after the locking of that thread, his one liner style
did not change much, but his approach to people somewhat has changed.
But this is just an assumption.


Does he feel he is contributing?

That, could only be answered by Nik himself ;)


I do appreciate that you are taking the time to look around and see what I am seeing. I wish Nik would come by and answer the original questions.

I am really glad you found those. While those posts are not the most in-depth they do clearly show that at some point in the far off past Nik made a an effort. To some extent, that is a relief as I found it really difficult to imagine anyone coming to a site and defining his presence with nothing of substance.

So what changed? How did Nik's handful of posts above give spawn to the thousands of others which don't share those attributes? It seems like you are seeing what I am seeing and also pointed out that in the very beginning (which was quite a long time ago), there were some positive differences.

I am glad if it helps. For your information, I haven't been here so long, less
than a year, Nik was here longer than me. Although I could dig up his posts
history since the very beginning, it is impossible for me to know exactly what
have been going on, because I did not understand the overall context and
situation of the forum in the times when I did not follow it.



To Nik: Apologies for the implication that 100% of your posts were spam. Clearly in the very beginning you showed an intention to share real knowledge and even help others. It does appear to be a minority of your posts (seeing as how it took this long to even find them) and multiple users have ackowledged the 1-2 liner / subtle antagonistic posts which appear to be the majority. I do hope you take the opportunity to address the original question.

Thats really gentle of you :)

What has it got to do with you?

I care about the forum and its members.



Seriously, who are you to speak about the contributions of forum members?

Someone whos gone through alot of them? Go through Nik's last 100 posts and honestly tell me what you see.



If you don’t like his posts, put him on ignore and keep quiet. It’s that simple. And I doubt you've even interacted with the guy. As far as I’m concerned sciforums needs Nik (as well as spuriousmonkey and his crew).

Nik is part of spuriousmonkey's crew (the banned members of which have chosen to never come back consequently). In fact he has contributed to an entire subforum whose bulk of threads have destructive intent for this forum. Would you like to see the evidence and upon seeing it are you sure that's what this forum needs?



I don't think its nice to pick on forum members

Of course not. Humans judge each other by one criteria and one criteria only. Are they mean? Sometimes it can be hard to distinguish the difference between a genuine concern and intentionally being mean... especially when someone is singled out. Re-read the OP with the former intention in mind.

Sorry, that link doesn't appear to work. Again, I don't have any issue with non-serious threads.

Hmm weird.. it was a link to Nikelodeon's threads. I took a quick look at his early posts that way..
Anyhow, I see the matter is some what resolved now ? :)

Nik's showed me the meaning of life...to murder all sentient beings.

Unless people didn't read Nik's recent posts, or they are very new comers,
I doubt people did not notice.

They'll definately notice now.



Do I consider it valuable? There are some of his posts which I read contain
information or refreshing humour, and I consider them valuable. There are also
some which are not, in fact a bit disturbing, but it doesn't bother me much,
because none of them are personal attacks, not to me at least...

What percentage (say out of his last 1000 posts or so) would you classify as humor, bonified contribution, and non-contributation?



No I don't have any insights, but I do have some assumptions. One of the
assumptions could be related to this:
http://www.sciforums.com:80/showthread.php?t=73861

I noticed that before and after the locking of that thread, his one liner style
did not change much, but his approach to people somewhat has changed.
But this is just an assumption.

I think that might be a part of it. That thread was a result of spuriousmonkey enacting revenge upon this site for whatever reasons. He decided to intentionally post "spurious" polls just to be a pain for the moderation team. Naturally it just helped him into another ban but Nik tends to follow spurious and might simply act out because of loyalty/sympathy to him.




That, could only be answered by Nik himself ;)

I do hope he stops by.



I am glad if it helps. For your information, I haven't been here so long, less
than a year, Nik was here longer than me. Although I could dig up his posts
history since the very beginning, it is impossible for me to know exactly what
have been going on, because I did not understand the overall context and
situation of the forum in the times when I did not follow it.

Oh in that case welcome aboard inzomnia and thanks for your participation. It is greatly appreciated :). Politics happen on any site and that's nothing really new. With Nik, I am not trying to make a political situation as I am trying to reach out and genuinely express concern.


Thats really gentle of you :)

How dare you call me gentle! > : )

;1715422']Nik's showed me the meaning of life...to murder all sentient beings.

aw hell, cool skill could have showed you that.

Hmm weird.. it was a link to Nikelodeon's threads. I took a quick look at his early posts that way..

No worries.


Anyhow, I see the matter is some what resolved now ? :)

It's heading that way but that's not necessarily a good thing. Really Nik's participation is needed more than people agreeing, disagreeing, or being neutral.

While my OP is very direct, it is brought about by concern and Nik's non-participation in combination with his posting trends does suggest he might not have any constructive intent towards the forum. If that turns out to be the case then those whom argued for him get a big slap in the face. :{

I understand that Sandy and I am glad you like him and his sense of humor. That quality is a part of Nik and I am not saying he is a bad person. When you joined this science site, were you strictly joining to meet funny people?

No. He's a bonus. :)

If he really didn't care about you, would you still proudly claim the booby prize?

If he really didn't care about you, would you still proudly claim the booby prize?

He doesn't care about me. He doesn't even like me but I don't care. I like him and think he's funny. :D

This thread is stupid. :(

Sandy is contradicting herself

sandy....come to papa lazarou


:confused: Uh, that was pretty weird.

Sandy is contradicting herself

How do you figure?

And why does anyone care? :confused:

He doesn't care about me. He doesn't even like me but I don't care. I like him and think he's funny. :D

This thread is stupid. :(

Yes, you have made it quite clear that you like him and think he's funny. Even more clear that so long as you feel entertained, it really doesn't matter what his intentions are, doesn't matter what his results are, doesn't matter that he might be hurt, and doesn't matter that people might be concerned about him, others, and the forum.

Sandy is contradicting herself

How so?

You stated that if her husband really did not care for her would she claim the prize, when she stated that he does not care for her so she would not claim the prize...yet she states that he does not like her over and over and than says she does not care (or she does not like him) and thus contradicts herself since she immedeatly says she likes him, when she just said she does not care. Care and love is same thing.

You stated that if her husband really did not care for her would she claim the prize, when she stated that he does not care for her so she would not claim the prize...yet she states that he does not like her over and over and than says she does not care (or she does not like him) and thus contradicts herself since she immedeatly says she likes him, when she just said she does not care. Care and love is same thing.

That's an interesting interpretation. I bet that could be weeded out into a generic topic on its own.

To recap, this thread was born out of a concern. Nikelodeon has over 10,000 posts and the presence of 1-2 liner comedy bits, non-information, and subtle antagonism seem to take up the vast majority of his posts (I would guesstimate over 99% of his posts might be that way).

Since the threads inception several participants have taken neutral positions, several participant has taken positions of agreement, many participants took positions of disagreement (or a combination of agreement and disagreement), and one participant vandalized the thread.

To date the vast majority of disagreemnt has consisted of one message. Nik entertains me... a kind of booby prize at the sciforums door. A small subset of disagreement arose out of noting real contributions. Only one person (inzomnia) however was able to demonstrate real evidence of knowledge sharing and intent to help that dated back to some of Nik's original posts. That evidence appears to be restricted to the very beginning of those 10,000+ posts.

Those that did agree recognized and acknowledged the observations of the opening post and noted various points where Nik's posts / intentions appear to have turned from constructive, to non-constructive, to destructive. Although it is not know for certain, there is a hypothesis that part of this unusual posting phenomena is related to Nik's friendship with spurriousmonkey (a member whom was repeatdly banned and demonstrated alot of ill will to this site as a result). Being his friend, Nik might have felt hurt by the ordeal and sympathetic to spurious.

A question that naturally arises is what's in it for me? Why would I single someone out? The answer is that I care about the site and its members and I am concerned about Nik's posting trends suggest about his intentions. In my opinion, placing value in entertainment that encourages more 1-2 liner comedy bits, non-information, and subtle antagonism as a sole defining force for a partiular member is mean to that member. It doesn't give them the opportunity to expand into real discussion and grow. I for one don't want to encourage Nik to spam just to satisfy my desire to be entertained and that is certainly not fair to Nik.

So I ask the same question as I did in the OP. Not out of hate, not out of malice, not to set a trap, but out of concern. Nikelodeon, why are you here?

You stated that if her husband really did not care for her would she claim the prize, when she stated that he does not care for her so she would not claim the prize...yet she states that he does not like her over and over and than says she does not care (or she does not like him) and thus contradicts herself since she immedeatly says she likes him, when she just said she does not care. Care and love is same thing.

Yeeeaaahhh......she will do that sometimes...:sleep:

Good Morning Crunching cats

thank you for your responses.

ok lets go through



I think you are confusing a game with a genuine concern.

.

It was a figure of speech, surely someone of your undoubted intellect could ahve worked that one out!!!





I don't think they are nonsense and several users have agreed with my observations so far (even inzomnia who really found the only evidence to support Nik at last trying several times in the beginning).
.

ok do a Poll then, obviously not a poll with a leading question i hasten to add.




'We'? Now, if I didn't like you I would offer to suck your wife's dick accordingly but it turns out that I do in fact like you and respect your contributions so I shall refrain on the ad-hom.


now crunching cats..... my wife is a female, she doesnt have a dick so its silly to say the above unless it was meant to be an insult that is, which kind of negates the bits where you say you like me...

i would appreciate it if you dont say things like that again, i do not take to kindly to people insulting my wife...



I know you mean well but my apology was not to you nor should you be anthropomoprhizing Nik's position (whatever it may be). If Nik really doesn't care about a genuine concern a fellow member is bringing up (mind you a concern with alot of evidence) then he should say so. It would speak volumes about his intentions and I can't imagine you would maintain the same loyalty to him if he came back (just for example) with a clear intent to be destructive to both the site and its members.
.

i am sure nik will respond to this thread in due course if he deems necessary



I reject your request to not care. Sorry.




I think we have two different approaches on how to handle a concern that involves another member directly. I think we both care about the other posters and this site and want the best for both. At the same time I have to ask the question, is it better to say nothing and appease the problem or risk appearing to be trying to drum up a lynch mob? The answer to that question of course is where I think we differ.

But is it a real problem or just your inference as a real problem.


-------------------------------------
on a side note, i have read the phrase Spuroious Monkey's crew banded around a bit in the last few posts, what is that meant to mean and who are his crew and why are they his crew???

~~~~~~~
cheers
zak

Good Morning Crunching cats

thank you for your responses.

ok lets go through

Good morning Zak, you're welcome.



It was a figure of speech, surely someone of your undoubted intellect could ahve worked that one out!!!

Figures of speech differ and / or have different meanings across various geographies no? I'll spare you an equivalent sarcastic ad-hom becuase you said good morning.



ok do a Poll then, obviously not a poll with a leading question i hasten to add.

But is it a real problem or just your inference as a real problem.

Should I also get a rope and prepare the gallows for him? I thought I made it clear that I am not trying to lynch-mob Nik but rather I am asking for his participation. As to whether or not there is a real problem I can't say for sure. Nik could clear that up rather quickly. Here is a subset of what I do know.

- 10000+ low quality posts.
- Evidence of intent to promote spurious forum (check his header).
- Evidence of intent to vandalize this forum (check the 'other forum' bitching section of spurious' forum).

Here are the last 20 of his posts:

* Until you need more.
* I'd go back to a much simpler time.
* escorts
* sluts
* http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=61362
* prats
* twats
* Surely it ceases to be the Golden Rule in that case.
* Perhaps it can prove you are nuts?
* Out of the corner of my eye. I turned to look but it was gone.
* The Golden Rule sounds great but why has it always failed?
* Once, in the park.
* Margret Thatcher should count as a man.
* Roll out the nukes.
* They all suck. Except for the torrent version.
* I hate you for saying that.
* lollercakes! funny.
* When they are creating the universe.
* He demands fear and respect.
* Here, here, brother!

So again, I can't say for sure if there is really a problem or not but it really comes down to intent in this case. Maybe everything I listed is a statistical anomoly. Maybe Nik really feels engaged and is expressing constructive intent the best he can. Maybe something else?

The point is, a little red flag has gone off and I am asking questions about it out of concern.



now crunching cats..... my wife is a female, she doesnt have a dick so its silly to say the above unless it was meant to be an insult that is, which kind of negates the bits where you say you like me...

i would appreciate it if you dont say things like that again, i do not take to kindly to people insulting my wife...

I'll clarify the message in case there was mis-interpretation. If you don't like to be bitten then don't bite (I seem to recall something about sucking a dead man's dick).

I think you're a good person and I like alot of your contributions to this site. That 'credit' will give you options, respect, and leeway. What it won't give you is a undue safety.



i am sure nik will respond to this thread in due course if he deems necessary

It would be great if he did.



-------------------------------------
on a side note, i have read the phrase Spuroious Monkey's crew banded around a bit in the last few posts, what is that meant to mean and who are his crew and why are they his crew???

~~~~~~~
cheers
zak

Not sure what specific post is being referred to but generally spurrious' crew consists of banned members whom went to his forum and / or friends whom sympathize with spurious encountering some past unjust banning treatment.

Hi Crunchy Cat, Zak, all..

Guess what, I feel guilty :( I realized that I noticed Nik's changing far earlier,
but I didn't do much.

That day after the locking of this thread where Spurious nominated Nik to be
mod of Architecture & Eng (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=73861),
nobody said anything (as far as I know). I think that the nomination was, like
you said, just to be pain for the moderator, and Nik himself actually did not
have any wish to be mod. But eventhough so, when admin locked the thread,
probably he felt unappreciated. Worse is, nobody tried to defend him.

If you read his post history, he still cheerful and all before the locking of the
thread. After the locking, he still posted one post the next day (27.11), and
then he was off for 3 days. On 30.11 he post one message, just commenting
on my coming exam result. At that time I haven't realized the change because
I was busy with other stuffs. So I just asked him, how is everything going on
with him. Two days after that (01.12) he post again one message to
this forum, just to say that he is "dead":

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1654284&postcount=77

Maybe he was trying to send me message that he feel sad or disappointed,
but I thought he was joking as usual. So I (and some other) replied with joke.
But, he did not reply our joke, he post nothing for 3 weeks. So I sent him some PMs.
I sent PM already on 30.11, and then 04.12-08.12, he replied me just like normal.
So I thought he was just not in the mood to post.

He started to posting again on (20.12, but he was changing. He became
a bit cynical and he also didn't talk to me (but there are so many people in
this forum, maybe its not possible to talk to everyone). But I started to think
something was really wrong with him. So on 24.12 I sent him PM again,
I asked him, whether he had problem. Its not ethical to repost PM on public,
but I can say that his reply was positive. He said me he is ok and then he
grins (:D) 3 times like that.

But like you see, he is apparently not ok! I am not close with Nik, I mean,
I've been trying to be formal friend with everyone (because this is just
internet), but like you, I do also sometimes notice when things are unusual.
I just don't know what to do about it. I wanted to say something when his
thread was locked by admin, but I have no enough courage. Besides, I
understand admin decision, there was no urgent need of moderation for forum
which is among the least active subforums. Uhm.. maybe it was the approach
that a bit uhm.. cold.

Uhm, I wanted to say something also to Zak.. Zak, I dont think you should be
against Crunchy Cat, you see CC actually expressing concern for Nik. CC cares
for Nik and for the forum well-being as well. Anyway CC, I suggest you to
send PM to Nik. I am sure he already read this thread, and he has time in hands
because you see he is still posting on other subforums today. Maybe PM will
work. :)

I am sorry, I will be a bit busy for some homeworks today, but I'll try to keep up...

Dear Crunchign Cats,

thank you for your response,,

Ok youi have your opinion on Nick, and i will have mine, i thinkw e will just be going round in circles if we carry on.... and btw it wasnt meant to be sarcastic, i was just trying to be humble with you.





I'll clarify the message in case there was mis-interpretation. If you don't like to be bitten then don't bite (I seem to recall something about sucking a dead man's dick).

.

ok fine, but you upped the stakes by insulting my wife, now if you told me to suck shit through a straw from the backsidde of a Zebra (or similar)then fair enough but why you involved my rather hot and exceptionally good looking wife is beyond me (even thoguh she is a bit of a nagging pain)

Apologies for insulting you first CC


Uhm, I wanted to say something also to Zak.. Zak, I dont think you should be
against Crunchy Cat, you see CC actually expressing concern for Nik. CC cares
for Nik and for the forum well-being as well. Anyway CC, I suggest you to
send PM to Nik. I am sure he already read this thread, and he has time in hands
because you see he is still posting on other subforums today. Maybe PM will
work. :)

I am sorry, I will be a bit busy for some homeworks today, but I'll try to keep up...

hi Sweetie

anything for you my dear

actually i have no real beef with anyone on these forums i was just trying to stick up for nick thats all.

and dont you worry CC and I will be fine, if ok with CC that is,

~~~~~~~~~
best
zak

You stated that if her husband really did not care for her would she claim the prize, when she stated that he does not care for her so she would not claim the prize...yet she states that he does not like her over and over and than says she does not care (or she does not like him) and thus contradicts herself since she immedeatly says she likes him, when she just said she does not care. Care and love is same thing.

:confused: Is this supposed to be about me? I don't have a husband. I didn't say I don't like Nik. :confused:

That day after the locking of this thread where Spurious nominated Nik to be
mod of Architecture & Eng (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=73861),
nobody said anything (as far as I know). I think that the nomination was, like
you said, just to be pain for the moderator, and Nik himself actually did not
have any wish to be mod. But eventhough so, when admin locked the thread,
probably he felt unappreciated. Worse is, nobody tried to defend him.

The reason that thread was locked to my knowledge was two simple reasons. Firstly some time back it was identified that Making polls and voting for people to moderate particular forums wasn't the way to pick moderators, this was decided after a member that became moderator in the past abused their powers and stalked another member properly by posting their real information, phone number etc.

The other reason was at the time we all knew that it was a gag. I personally didn't close the thread in question, I would have just left it to die a death on it's own.

The main changes in Nik were around the time that Scivillage went up and he was over there roughing the place up until spurious got his forum back up.
He probably wasn't too happy at the time accessing sciforums which he repeated wanted to "Firebomb" during that period (Nov/Dec last year)

You see a few of the people that seemingly group together (I don't want to say gang because for the most part it's probably inaccurate, they just enjoy hanging with each other and that's why they appear a gang) and this group conspires in another forum to get back at all the 'injustices' they feel have occurred to them.

They have their specific Nemesis's (usually the moderator responsible for their banning) and because they feel that nobody stuck up for them (Although every time one got banned, a whiney post would emerge from one of the others). I think because they know that "Personal attacks" aren't on, they've actually marred the whole forums.

An anology of this:

A friend hangs out at a teenagers house while his fathers away. They might get up to things they aren't suppose to but on the fathers return he chases him out of the house. Now this occurs to every one of the teenagers friends when his father comes home. (His father lacks communicaton skills to say that he's chasing them off because he can see they are going to be a bad influence)

This eventually leads to a conspiracy amongst the teenagers, as to whether they should egg the teens house over his fathers actions. So they go ahead and do it. Of course when done the father is furious, he'll no longer tolerate any of them near the house but what he also does is make that teenager who's friends they happen to be clean the entire house of the egg, so that teens pissed at his father and the friends for putting him through all this.

:confused: Is this supposed to be about me? I don't have a husband. I didn't say I don't like Nik. :confused:


So you fancy him?

Nik are you hearing this? I think sandy likes you.

The main changes in Nik were around the time that Scivillage went up and he was over there roughing the place up until spurious got his forum back up.
He probably wasn't too happy at the time accessing sciforums which he repeated wanted to "Firebomb" during that period (Nov/Dec last year)

got nothing interesting to do? (http://*******************/forums/index.php) forums was never down in that period. It was thriving and scivillage was a lame attempt to firebomb our little forum.

I'm appalled by the blatant lies and the incitement of hatred propaganda by sciforums management.

In our little forum (http://*******************/forums/index.php) dedicated to a friendly humourous discussion of all topics without oppressive moderation we honour our members.

When Lucifers Angel asked me to delete her account I didn't keep stalling her or did i put up some blabla about the good of the forum. I deleted her account 10 minutes after she first asked me. That's because we care about people, because we know where we come from. From the people. We don't have something huge stuck up our arses.

A few of the old guard played a bit with scivillage , the lame attempt to firebomb our little forum (http://*******************/forums/index.php), and then we collectively decided to let it sink into oblivion. Because we all knew what it really was. That must have hurt Stryder, since ever since he came up with wild stories and accusations.

We showed the world we, the so-called trouble makers, were quite capable of living together peacefully in scivillage, and then we gave you the finger by letting it drop like it meant nothing.

I am extremely disappointed in stryder, but luckily we have build a great humourous community in our little forum (http://*******************/forums/index.php) and we are very happy there.

We are happy to have shed the oppressive negativity of sciforums.

Yeah! What she said ^^^^^^.
And FYI some of us weren't even ever bandeded from this site or got any of the old infractions.
So ner ner ner ner ner.

And if you are the only fish in a pond you better make friends with the amphibians.

So you fancy him?
Nik are you hearing this? I think sandy likes you.

No. I like him. I think he's funny. Just like I like monkey. I can like people without fancying them. :rolleyes:

Monkey, Nik, and I are saving ourselves because Jesus told us to, remember? ;) :D

Thank you for your response to my post, Stryder. Maybe I shouldn't have
bring this topic again in the first place, it really seems a bad idea, I'm sorry.
I wish for the well-being of sciforums and for the well-being of spurious forum
as well, so everybody are happy. Also, if Nik will continue to post here, I wish
he will show some good will like he used to be :) huh who am I talking like this

I think that I am out of this topic, sorry for the trouble I may have caused to
everybody.

Cheers,
~inz

Dear Crunchign Cats,

thank you for your response,,

You're welcome.



Ok youi have your opinion on Nick, and i will have mine, i thinkw e will just be going round in circles if we carry on.... and btw it wasnt meant to be sarcastic, i was just trying to be humble with you.

That is a possibility. I really don't mind debate on the subject; however, I do think my position was misinterpreted by some people. Humans judge each other on one criteria and only one criteria: are they mean? When voicing a concern like this there is really no good way to avoid the knee-jerk emotional response of "hey he is being mean to someone". That is why some see themselves in a position of defense and when that happens they're trying to win a battle... not address a concern. Naturally there is no victory for a battler as they are fighting against an imaginary opposing position.

Contrast the battlers with for example inzomnia, invert_nexus, or stryder whom perform research, share their results, think, hypothesize, and try to understand. They are trying to understand the concern and what might be involved.



ok fine, but you upped the stakes by insulting my wife, now if you told me to suck shit through a straw from the backsidde of a Zebra (or similar)then fair enough but why you involved my rather hot and exceptionally good looking wife is beyond me (even thoguh she is a bit of a nagging pain)

Hahaha, of course I upped the stakes. I am not a believer in the notion of fighting fair :).


Apologies for insulting you first CC

No worries :cheers:.

Hi Crunchy Cat, Zak, all..

Guess what, I feel guilty :( I realized that I noticed Nik's changing far earlier,
but I didn't do much.

That day after the locking of this thread where Spurious nominated Nik to be
mod of Architecture & Eng (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=73861),
nobody said anything (as far as I know). I think that the nomination was, like
you said, just to be pain for the moderator, and Nik himself actually did not
have any wish to be mod. But eventhough so, when admin locked the thread,
probably he felt unappreciated. Worse is, nobody tried to defend him.

That is an interesting observation and you might be right. Spurrious may have jokingly put Nik into that position and if there were feelings of unappreciation, it may have been directed at the moderator as he took the last action (even though it was the thread starter that put him on the spot).



If you read his post history, he still cheerful and all before the locking of the
thread. After the locking, he still posted one post the next day (27.11), and
then he was off for 3 days. On 30.11 he post one message, just commenting
on my coming exam result. At that time I haven't realized the change because
I was busy with other stuffs. So I just asked him, how is everything going on
with him. Two days after that (01.12) he post again one message to
this forum, just to say that he is "dead":

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1654284&postcount=77

Maybe he was trying to send me message that he feel sad or disappointed,
but I thought he was joking as usual. So I (and some other) replied with joke.
But, he did not reply our joke, he post nothing for 3 weeks. So I sent him some PMs.
I sent PM already on 30.11, and then 04.12-08.12, he replied me just like normal.
So I thought he was just not in the mood to post.

He started to posting again on (20.12, but he was changing. He became
a bit cynical and he also didn't talk to me (but there are so many people in
this forum, maybe its not possible to talk to everyone). But I started to think
something was really wrong with him. So on 24.12 I sent him PM again,
I asked him, whether he had problem. Its not ethical to repost PM on public,
but I can say that his reply was positive. He said me he is ok and then he
grins (:D) 3 times like that.

But like you see, he is apparently not ok! I am not close with Nik, I mean,
I've been trying to be formal friend with everyone (because this is just
internet), but like you, I do also sometimes notice when things are unusual.
I just don't know what to do about it. I wanted to say something when his
thread was locked by admin, but I have no enough courage. Besides, I
understand admin decision, there was no urgent need of moderation for forum
which is among the least active subforums. Uhm.. maybe it was the approach
that a bit uhm.. cold.

That's an interesting sequence of events. I am glad that you at noticed things and took the opportunity to reach out to Nik. I am sure he appreciated it. Maybe he has been affected by could shoulders as you suggest. It's an interesting hypothesis.



Anyway CC, I suggest you to send PM to Nik. I am sure he already read this thread, and he has time in hands because you see he is still posting on other subforums today. Maybe PM will work. :)


Good idea, I'll reach out to him via pm.

Maybe I shouldn't have
bring this topic again in the first place, it really seems a bad idea, I'm sorry.

You have nothing to apologize for, anything you brought up was in an attempt to better explore the concern that the thread raised. As you saw from spurious' response to Stryder, there is alot of enmity between them and its part of a different issue.


I wish for the well-being of sciforums and for the well-being of spurious forum
as well, so everybody are happy. Also, if Nik will continue to post here, I wish
he will show some good will like he used to be :) huh who am I talking like this

Oh, I am sure his next 20 posts will be just like the last 20... and so on. :p

I have to agree with Spurious on the subject of Stryder's forum. He said it better in his forum than in his post here, but from what I saw (and I must admit that I rarely went to Scivillage) Scivillage was composed of the 'problem posters' that hang out at Spurious's forum. They weren't vandalizing the place. They were the place.
Then they stopped going there and the forum died. I don't know if there was a group decision made to boycott or if it just happened, but it transpired nonetheless.

I'm often surprised by Stryder's characterizations of events. Although, to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if people are sometimes surprised by mine.


Edit:
And. Also.
I don't know Crunchy Cat's motivations behind this thread, they may be honorable for all I know. But I don't think that threads like this are necessarily kosher. It's basically a bash Nik thread.

I think it should be locked at least. Possibly deleted.

Edit:
And. Also.
I don't know Crunchy Cat's motivations behind this thread, they may be honorable for all I know. But...

There is no 'but' invert. When there is a genuine concern with evidence, sweeping it under the carpet is a clear message of "It is better to not care than to appear mean".

Good idea, I'll reach out to him via pm.

Unfortunately, that didn't work. When sending a PM, the following message was received:

"Nikelodeon has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space."

No, there is a but.

Two possible areas of concern.

1.) Nik is such an ass that he should be banned for the good of the forums. That would make this a ban thread at worst. A bash thread at best. Neither are acceptable.

2.) Nik is damaging himself by his one-liners and needs an intervention by those who care about him. But, you don't care about him. You don't even know him.


Thus, this is a bash thread and should be closed.
You can couch your terms as politely as you like, but the underlying sentiment remains the same.

No, there is a but.

Two possible areas of concern.

1.) Nik is such an ass that he should be banned for the good of the forums. That would make this a ban thread at worst. A bash thread at best. Neither are acceptable.

2.) Nik is damaging himself by his one-liners and needs an intervention by those who care about him. But, you don't care about him. You don't even know him.

Thus, this is a bash thread and should be closed.
You can couch your terms as politely as you like, but the underlying sentiment remains the same.


This is an invention of a polarization. It is two perceived outcomes / judgments based on your own biases. Clearly there are many outcomes that have not been explored (ex. Nik is really doing his best, Nik's posts are controlled by bot automation, Nik is afraid to speak his mind, etc...).

To say I don't care about him is to say that the work I have invested into this site is because I care about it and its members... except Nik. Now that's messed up. Now whether or not I know him personally is a different story. There are not alot of clearly defining characteristics in his posts nor does PM appear to be an option.