New theory: Jesus used psychedelics

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  1. m0rl0ck Consume! Conform! Obey! Registered Senior Member

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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    I can believe it

    That would answer a lot of questions about the Bible. Ever read the prophetic books? I want some of those drugs.

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  5. )O( INANNA )O( Registered Member

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    Did Jesus use psychedelic mushrooms?

    Probably.

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    Psychedelic Mushrooms are found in carved reliefs in ancient churches, and in old religious art.

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  7. spookz Banned Banned

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    nothing new here. most prophets were alluded to have used hallucinogens. i would imagine this notion gained popularity in the sixties
     
  8. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Everyone should try hallucinogens once, that's my advise. Well, actually, two or three times depending on the hallucinogen. Ya know, cause mushrooms don't always work the first time.
     
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    "God's word told the Jewish priests to always put ergot bread on public display in the temple, but the priests moved it into the restricted secret zone -- the Holy of Holies, taboo and off limits to all but the inner circle (Merkur). Jesus however wanted everyone to access the Holy bread, rather than restricting the people to the Common bread/loaves (Thiering). Taking this a bit furthur, it even suggests that Jesus' real complaint in the temple courtyard was that the priests were selling ergot, and at exorbitant prices, and only to a very select few. That way, the poor could never afford to buy a hit of ergot to experience ego death, unity consciousness, and heaven-on-earth. But Jesus
    gave them ergot for free, so that they could experience ego death, and the priests -- who had a thriving business -- were infuriated and seriously threatened, and had to get him out of the way to preserve their artificial scarcity. Then the miraculous healings were actually healings of the illusory split between self and world, and Jesus gave them religion meaning re-connection of the separate-self-sense with the world."

    "There is now a strong case for psychedelic allusions in the Bible. Also Barbara Thiering's Jesus The Man. Together, these books imply the strong hypothesis that Jesus was crucified for providing ergot-bread directly to everyone for free, making an end-run around the artificial scarcity and controlling power of the priests. Common between the priest family who ran Eleusis, the Jewish temple priests, and perhaps even the Catholic priests: they took free access to psychedelics away from the people. "Mystery" means "keep your mouth shut about how to make ergot, or we'll get rid of you." I first read in Strange Fruit the proposal that Socrates was put to death for revealing the formula for Kykeon, the ergot beverage used in the mystery cults such as Eleusis. I think this is extremely plausible when you consider that the ceremonies were controlled and run by families who only permitted a single experience. They had a secret that was always at risk of publication, and their income depended on it. It would have been easy to turn this entheogenic formula into a source of power, income, and manipulative and possibly oppressive systems of belief, by creating and controlling an artificial scarcity."

    "Manual of Discipline on page 208 -- that is part of the Dead Sea Scrolls and was used by the Qumran community. "If... a man... lies... he shall be excluded from the sacred food of the masters for a year, and shall be deprived of a fourth of his food ration. ... he shall not touch the sacred food of the masters [or] touch the drink of the masters. ... If any man of the community partakes with him of his sacred food... his sentence shall be like his. ... he shall be separated from the sacred food."

    "Jesus advocated every person becoming a high priest, and for free
    The Qumran community had an elitist and profit-driven system, to make money to fund the political uprising against Rome. Members had to pay, and though all were baptised, only a few were permitted to partake of the entheogenic communion. The others partook of a placebo communion, if any.

    The important Jewish mystic Philo, in The Contemplative Life (p. 89), describes the Theraputa having an ecstatic sacramental meal periodically involving reclining and ecstatic dancing. The way he describes it, it's looking likely that that sacrament was entheogenic, but only a few people in the stricter scheme were permitted to take it.

    My hypothesis is now that Jesus wanted everyone to be able to partake of the entheogenic sacramental communion, and for free as opposed to charging everyone ("selling salvation", selling indulgences) and only permitting the small elite group to partake of the entheogenic sacrament. Jesus was against restricting the entheogenic sacramental meal to only those who were "clean" (defined in an extremely exclusive way). There were two schools of thought at Quamran the strict and exclusive approach, in which only a few people can be promoted to take the higher communion, and the lenient and inclusive approach which Jesus advocated, in which everyone takes the higher communion for free. "


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