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Here's an idea for a new sci-fi series, possibly even a new genre; how about story-settings that about 500,000 to 1,000,000 years in advance of now, (or further) be which time the Human race will have transcended the need for physical bodies, and be mind-forms only. They could interact with the subsequent species that have emerged to take over the world.

A problem - How to get across the nearly god like life of the ascended humans, who presumably arent as acccessible as characters to people today as the newer species. You could then have the new species as the sympathetic characters, but introducing any kind of transcended being is very tricky and dangerous to plot, characterisation and story.

"They could interact with the subsequent species that have emerged to take over the world. "

Why would they want to take over the world when they have trancended beyond that type of thought? Seems they would like to have nothing to do with corporeal beings of any type so they could travel through time and space at their own leisure.

Interesting; no need for bodies. An endless series of voiced-over Benji types. That'll sure reduce production costs.

They, the non-corporeal transcendent race, wouldn't be wanting to take over the world. As you say, they would have moved beyond that thought. The species which would taking over the world would be the creatures which have evolved to the level of intelligence subsequent to the Human race leaving the physical plane. As for the Humans wanting to interact with them, it would be just out of interest, I guess. As the Humans would be beyond the need for bodies, they would be also effectively beyond time.

A problem - How to get across the nearly god like life of the ascended humans, who presumably arent as acccessible as characters to people today as the newer species. You could then have the new species as the sympathetic characters, but introducing any kind of transcended being is very tricky and dangerous to plot, characterisation and story.

I was thinking in terms of the movie The Sixth Sense, where the world is full of departed spirits--except that these ones are fully aware of their situation, and take advantage of the total freedom it gives them to move about quickly and interact with whoever/whatever/whenever they wish. They would (being non-corporeal) be beyond the normally-accepted boundaries of space and time, and would be much more mobile.

Interesting; no need for bodies. An endless series of voiced-over Benji types. That'll sure reduce production costs.

Endless possibilities for CGI, I'm thinking. The series would inevitably be special-effects-driven. :)

Yes, you could have groups of intelligences, some who explore, some who nurture other species, those who indulge in becoming gods for gullible aliens...

Yes, you could have groups of intelligences, some who explore, some who nurture other species, those who indulge in becoming gods for gullible aliens...
That's the beauty of this form of life, geodesic; you could have a tremendous amount of power. The real issue then becomes, if you have the power of a god, do you have the morality of god? Or are you stuck with merely Human morality, which at the best of times is a bit shonky? If the latter (much more likely, in my jaundiced view) you've got the makings of a problem. :eek:

...Which as we all know is the basis of a story.
What about if two groups of intelligences come into conflict? How do they decide upon a winner?

...Which as we all know is the basis of a story.
What about if two groups of intelligences come into conflict? How do they decide upon a winner?

The most cunning wins, as happens now. :D

...Which as we all know is the basis of a story.
What about if two groups of intelligences come into conflict? How do they decide upon a winner?


They wouldn't have a conflict to begin with. Just because there's two types of thought doesn't mean there's going to be any problem, only greater thought about that subject.

Say that two people meet and they both have oppisite points of view about a subject. If they are truely highly evolved beings then a DISCUSSION would ensue and perhaps one of them might be convinced to change their minds about whatever it is being discussed. If neither can change their minds at least they had their discussion and some enlightenment happened with both of them so that they can at least live together through COMPROMISE and RESPECT for each others point of view.

Our project, Orion's Arm (http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html) is concerned with the far future states of humanity, when technology has advanced so far as to give the highest entities what amonts to nothing far short of the power of Gods;
many of the Archailects, the chief gods of this civilisation, have ascended from human beings over thousands of years of development.Others are entirely artificial in origin.

There are many different strategies and points of view among the Gods; some want to conserve energy for the far future, some want to use energy to promote diversity;some want to foster living organisms and facilitate their evolution, others want to convert every thinking entity into virtual simulations, others still want to give the power of thought and self-awareness to all material objects, living and inorganic.
Some want to rule Earth-like worlds, with benign care, or with dispassionate and cool interest.

Yes, it would make a good series, I like to think...

Humans always play the lesser role. For some reason people want to see the lesser (Humans) fight some evil and way superior force and win. So the idea to make a series involving superior humans will probably not sell unless there is an superior alien race that wishes to kill or/and eat us.

There are many different strategies and points of view among the Gods; some want to conserve energy for the far future, some want to use energy to promote diversity;some want to foster living organisms and facilitate their evolution, others want to convert every thinking entity into virtual simulations, others still want to give the power of thought and self-awareness to all material objects, living and inorganic.
Some want to rule Earth-like worlds, with benign care, or with dispassionate and cool interest.

Yes, it would make a good series, I like to think...

Lovely website, thanks for link. What you describe though would be an awkward thing to put on TV, so much hi concept and different strategies.. I fear a lot of the unintelligent public would just shake their heads ovr it. :(

What Dilbert says sounds OK. Why should we be underdogs always ? A little alien race trying to crawl out from under our boot could be charming. Though again, theyd have to be enough like humans for the viewers to like them.

Humans always play the lesser role. For some reason people want to see the lesser (Humans) fight some evil and way superior force and win. So the idea to make a series involving superior humans will probably not sell unless there is an superior alien race that wishes to kill or/and eat us.

Good idea, Dilbert; because it raises an essential point. Let's turn the idea on its head. Suppose you do end up with (for any reason) different groups of Humanity, which have evolved at different rates. Suppose then that these groups meet up. Does this highly evolved group acknowledge that they are even related to the less developed population? Or do they say, "No, we can't possibly be related to them!" :mad:

Then you get a set of problems; at worst, outright hatred between the groups, because of lack of acknowledgement. At best, indifference, which again creates its own problems. The other alternative is that you end up with the more developed population exploiting the less advanced. So the superior alien race who want to kill us might be our own remote descendants, who are violently unwilling to acknowledge their relationship to us. :eek: