DO you prefer episodes I,II and III or the older ones with L.Skywalker, Hans Solo, Leia...? Why?


In my opinion the older ones are far away to much better. Dont have shure about the reason.

Well, let me see: for example, in the Older ones people know how to seduce ;-)....Han solo for instance, he is very funny when dealing with Leia. He know how to act. Besides he is a mother ***** that everybody loves. Just great.

Besides that i think that the older versions are much more epic in another way. There is more..i dont know, maybe friendship its the word.

The comic characters like C3PO, R"D" and Chewbacca are original and funny. In the new series the funny characters are more silly, childish and for shure an imitation.

In new episodes the best thing that we can see its Natalie Portman :-)

I think I will like episode III the most, if it is actually as good as it sounds.

My favorite George Lucas movie is THX 1138. Of the Star Wars movies, I liked The Empire Strikes Back the best. I think Lucas can be dark and avant-guard when he wants to be, but the later movies were not intended to be like that. They are less conceptual, and more family-friendly.

Definenstly T.E.S.B kicked the most ass.
Go Empire!

Th originals are wayyy better than the new ones.

Th originals are wayyy better than the new ones.
yeah, I mean, Jar Jar?!? give me a break.

Ya, you can bet that.

I think that the new ones are much more commercial- they are "matrix" imitation movies.
I mean, nowdays, since Matrix movie arrived, people just care about great special effects. I think that Matrix serie its the the best with a nice story and great effects.

The old ones of course. The actors, the setting, general atmosphere seem so much more real.
It's not flashy effects that make me see a movie.

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Let's hope for the best on this one. I was very disappointed in Episode One. Two was better, though it still had some pretty wooden acting. Much less Jar Jar.

It seems similar to how a bands early work is often their best. But Lucas wrote the entire story at once, so how did his vision become the childrens movie that was Episode One?

Lucas wasn't involved in the Empire Strikes Back. Which is a little ironic, since it's most fans' favorite movie.

t'is my favourite too :D

Yeah, ditto.

Lucas screwed up the series in Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
How the hell?!
The freakin' ragtag rednecks with crappy equipment and little rock-throwing teddy bears win over the well-trained Imperial military that also has mechanized warmachines!??!
This has gotta be a fixed fight...

Luckily, if you played Jedi Academy, you'd know that Jedan Korr ressurects the Empire, and makes it stronger than ever. And he kills Luke, finally.

I like the older movies because they were completely revolutionary for their time. They completely changed the mindset towards science-fiction films. The new ones are just copies of the Matrix trilogy. (Which is also revolutionary)

Also Spidergoat, Avant-guard is really a french term spelt Avant-garde.

After Episode III 's gone to DVD, someone (don't care who) should make TV-movie adaptations of the novels set after Return of the Jedi. The Heir to the Empire books are pretty good, and Grand Admiral Thrawn would be a great screen baddie.

Or we could film the later novels, like the New Jedi Order series. That could reunite the cast of the original movies, and they would be suitably older to fit the story continuity. Han & Leia's children would be the traditional "young unknown" stars, as Mark Hamill and Haydn Christensen were. Also, the Yuuzhan Vong (http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/yuuzhanvong/index.html) would look pretty cool I'm sure...

Starthane, haven't your heard of the possible SW TV series? Also, did you forget about the cartoon shorts that aired on Cartoon Network? The Clone Wars shorts, I believe.

Has someone thought of bringing StarWars to theatre? :cool:
It would be cool

They've brought out the book of the new movie. Oh joy.

I've always thought doing more sequels than prequels was the right way to go...Imperial Civil War, the rise of the Jedi, etc.

Hell, even thousands of years before the Star Wars saga would've been great! With great jedi armies and such.

And Lord Avatar as their commander supreme.

Haven't you played Knights of the Old Republic?
What about KOTOR 2?
They're about 5,000 years before Episode I.
It tells you about the original Sith Empire, the founding of the sith, how they went rogue from the Jedi, and et cetera.
It also says that "an empire shall rise from the ashes of the republic, only to fall. a new empire shall rise from the ashes of a second republic, it shall last be stronger than before"
This is in reference to the game "Star Wars: Jedi Academy" where you play as a jedi that goes rogue, and steals the Staff of Ragnos, Marka Ragnos being one of the founders of the Sith Order. He kills Kyle Katarn and the books about subsequent events show him killing Luke as well. Then, Jedan Korr (the guy you play as) founds the Second Empire later on.
Its all in a book, "The Second Empire", and its actually approved by LucasArts. Its not a noncanonical random crap, its actual expanded universe fluff. I've read it once before..

We're straying from the movies

its still official SW canon.
they will make a movie soon about KOTOR.
they'll have to.

If Episode 3 doesnt work out, theres always the three after RotJ
remember, it was originally a nine-part thing. Lucas started in the middle of the story, with ANH.

Dear Lord, I hope Lucas dies before he can make more Star Wars movies. Let somebody with real talent have a go at them.

i agree.
he butchered the whole saga with RotJ.
the SFX were cool, and all.
but, really...come on!
friggin' rebels winning against a super-power all-pervasive empire?
would've been a cool scifi, but after RotJ...it became a totally unrealistic fantasy.

The series kind of lost me at the end of ROTJ, when Vader revealed he was Luke's father. A super-cliched "twist" that took away the great thing about Luke Skywalker, that he was just an Everyguy who did good.

After that reveal, we segued from an epic struggle centering around two normal guys (Han and Luke), where the main theme seemed to be that there's heroism in everybody, into Jospeh Campbellian archetype crap about basically a war between two factions of demigods (Jedi and Sith, Luke and Vader.) David Brin wrote a critical article which sums it up much better than I can here, but a lot of what he said echoes my own feelings.

The older ones are way the hell better. My favorite is The Empire Strikes Back.

did anyone see the Ewok movies? I thought they were wuite good when I was a child.

Caravan of Courage and Battle for Endor or something like that. With the dude who runs really fast.

The series kind of lost me at the end of ROTJ, when Vader revealed he was Luke's father. A super-cliched "twist" that took away the great thing about Luke Skywalker, that he was just an Everyguy who did good.
How was that super-cliché? Didn't it sort of start that cliché? (Well, there was Oedipus....)

Star Wars is a LONG way from extinction and that's the truth.

The series kind of lost me at the end of ROTJ, when Vader revealed he was Luke's father.
didnt he reveal that in TESB?

did anyone see the Ewok movies? I thought they were quite good when I was a child.

what, "the great ewok adventure"? and its sequal?
those kicked ass.
when i was a kid.
now, they're just mildy funny because they're so cheezay...

How the hell?!
The freakin' ragtag rednecks with crappy equipment and little rock-throwing teddy bears win over the well-trained Imperial military that also has mechanized warmachines!??!
This has gotta be a fixed fight...

I dunno...

Viet Cong - Shit smeared sticks...
vs.
US Army - 'Mechanized war machines'

?

that was different.
Charlie knew the terrain better than out boys.
Empire & Rebs know terrain equally well. Actually, if the expanded universe in SW: Galaxies hold true (which it does, as it is an official canon game), the Empire knows the planetary terrain better than the REbs. especially in space, the deciding factor in the entire war, the Imps have total superiority. The events in the movie are skewed inthe rebs favor so badly.
The TIE/ln fighter is really a hell of a lot more manueverable than a frikkin' X-wing.
The AT-ATs are not freakin' fifteen meters, like the New-Republic-biased books might tell you. they are really 30 meters tall.
This just goes to show how much events are skewed by the New Republic.

didnt he reveal that in TESB?

Yes indeed. My bad.

the fact remains:
the public opinion is drastically slanted in favor of the Rebel Terrorists and the NEw Republic (which, might I add, is just as corruptas the Old Republic).
it is sickening..

that was different.
Charlie knew the terrain better than out boys.
Empire & Rebs know terrain equally well. Actually, if the expanded universe in SW: Galaxies hold true (which it does, as it is an official canon game), the Empire knows the planetary terrain better than the REbs. especially in space, the deciding factor in the entire war, the Imps have total superiority. The events in the movie are skewed inthe rebs favor so badly.
The TIE/ln fighter is really a hell of a lot more manueverable than a frikkin' X-wing.
The AT-ATs are not freakin' fifteen meters, like the New-Republic-biased books might tell you. they are really 30 meters tall.
This just goes to show how much events are skewed by the New Republic.

I defer to your more voluminous knowledge on the subject matter, as I have but seen the 3 "original" films and the first "prequel" - which I found so disappointing that I avoided the next.

I do recall an interview with George Lucas wherein he cited the Viet Cong/US Army example as a sort of inspiration for the "low-tech" Ewoks defeating the Imperial forces.

Overall, though, I agree wholeheartedly with it seeming farfetched that the Rebels, with their "fleet" - consisting apparently of any junkpile which could make it into space - somehow managed to overcome an Empire capable of constructing 2 Death Stars, as well as a fleet of battle cruisers.

The rationale I recall for the TIE fighter's superior maneuverability - actually a pretty ridiculous notion, considering they are operating in space, where the sort of maneuvers they are engaging in would probably be impossible - was that it lacked any kind of shielding, and presumably the absence of that encumbrance made it more agile.

It depends on the propulsion methods of flight. I suppose, since they have those huge glowing engines, that in Star Wars they fly using Newtonian methods. By that I mean, they throw stuff out of the back of their spaceship (probably superheated gases) to make it go forward.

However, if they used engines that distorted reality to get around, then all the maneurve we saw are entirely possible, and shields could possibly hinder warping reality to move around through it. Or something?

The Ewoks were rather far out. How do rocks thrown by cute furball creatures take out armored Storm Troopers in mechs?

I see what you mean.

I could believe that the cruiser-sized ships were capable of generating the energy required to create such a "warp-field" in order to maneuver, but they moved conspicuously like large sea-going vessels - ponderously.
It seems rather beyond something like a fighter-sized craft.

Of course, it is supposed to be the far-flung future, (or is it the far-flung past...? I forget) where one presumes the tech level might be sufficient to build such capabilities into the equivalent of a modern-day F-18.
I thought that the T-I-E of TIE fighter meant Twin Ion Engine, though...
Seems a bit puny to bend reality.

A lot of the rationale behind events depicted in the films seemed to be fairly typical of Hollywood... reality right out the window for "dramatic effect". Wouldn't have it any other way in a sense, or there'd be some pretty boring "blockbusters" out there !

I seem to recall one scene where the Ewoks swung a suspended tree trunk to smash a "mini-AT-AT" - or whatever they called the wee two-legged ones.
That seemed as plausible as hyperdrive, anyway...
LoL
Also, it was fairly evident that the Stormtroopers armor was pretty much useless, as every single time one of them was hit by Reb' blaster fire, they expired quite promptly.

Nevertheless, I do recall wishing the silly little furballs would have been incinerated to the last... they were just too damned happy all the time...!

Forget the movies: Read the books. Most weren't written by Lucas and they aren't screwed up.

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This is a good Star Wars sight that gives the story lines of episodes 7,8,9.

It would be nice if someone produced these movies on a lesser scale than 1,2,3. We do not need all of the specials effects. We could get by with them toned down as in 4,5,6.

Forget the movies: Read the books. Most weren't written by Lucas and they aren't screwed up.

You're right. The Return of the Jedi novelisation, by James Kahn, was the first novel I ever read - and I read the book before seeing the film. Great stuff!!

Just saw Revenge of the Sith a few days ago. Oh boy.
Bad dialouge, unbelieveably naive characterisation, criminally simplistic plot.

But, given the sheer look and spectacle of the movie (plus my childhood prejudice and enduring wish to see the moment of Darth Vader's creation...) I still enjoyed it.

May the Force help me.

At my age I'll need the force to help me shit! :D

the new ones arn't that great

except Episode III.
That one is t3h shizznit.

My favorite is the original trilogy. The nonbutchered version.
The prequal trilogy sucked major ass compared to the original. Especially Episode 3. It was the worst of them all.

A good movie has alot to do with the chemistry, personality, and screen presense of the character cast.
The original series always had a team that always worked together constantly throught the trilogy with the added comic relief of r2d2 and c3po. The chemistry is great, and there is always witty dialogue. The dialogue in the prequal trilogy was crap.

In the first episode, Han chases the storm troopers down the hall, and the nevxt thing you know he's running away from them. They rescue the pricess by dressing up as storm troopers with a wookie captive. They go in, kick ass, and shoot out the cameras. Han solo tells the officer everything is fine on the radio. When they get surrounded the pricess of all people grabs lukes gun, shoots the garbage hole, and jumps in. Then there is the whole situation of getting the droids to stop the trash compactor. They cheer when it stops, and c3po thinks they are screaming in agony.

At the beginning of empire strikes back, the officer warns han solo not to go outside. Han tells him that it is his friend out there. The officer tells han he will freeze to death. Han tells him then I will see you in hell. The next day or something, the snowspeeder is searching for han and luke, calling them on the radio. Han greets them goodmorning nice of you to drop by.

Return of the jedi starts with an elaborate plan to rescue han solo. when they meet up again, they give their witty remarks, and deal with jaba the hut and the whole situation. Then there is the scene when they are handing off of the vehicle about to be eaten by the pit monster, and han solo wants to shoot the tongue. There was a ton of real good wit, teamwork, and humor in the first trilogy. That is what makes a movie fun to watch.

The prequal trilogy was just jar jar blabbering about. Complete protagonist and character rearangements throughout the series. No decent dialogue. Leim crappy ass Neeson. The worst of them all was ep 3 with the biggest fLIcking kindergarten storyline. "Oh by the way, I'll take the girl. We always wanted to adopt a little girl." Do you just not want to puke all over that stupidity?


I wrote a possible idea for a prequal where there was a team of Anikin and Kenobi as partners not master/apprentice. Yoda was the teacher of all the Jedi Knoghts. Jedi's were not some council or ambasadors, but knights in a clone war. Kenobi rises to be general. Sir Organa rises to be a senator of Alderan and leader of the republic. Anikin and Kenobi along with luke/leia's mother and 3 other new characters form a team, and go on lots of adventures together constantly saving eachother's lives. R2, C3PO, and Chewbacca are minor cameos, and not major characters. The story of Han's past before he was born somehow gets tied in. There is a cameo of cloud city and Lando's past before he was born. Anikin is not some super powerful jedi, but just another regular knight that got seduced by the power of the dark side. The jedi's do get hunted down and killed, but not as easy and gay as they did in ep3.

Episode 1 was bad, Episode 2 was minorly good, Episode 3 was great, Episodes 4,5,6 are all great. It's like that..

No, ep.1 was moderately crappy, ep.2 was sucky shit, ep.3 kicked ass, ep.4 was somewhat good, ep.5 was the best, and ep.6 was good until the end (rebel scum)

I recant my post about the Supershadow site. I discovered that he is a big fraud and he really does not know George Lucas at all.

No, ep.1 was moderately crappy, ep.2 was sucky shit, ep.3 kicked ass,

I'd say episode 1 was the worst. 2 was better than 3 on the whole.

Episodes 2 and 5 were my personal favorites with episode 4 a close third. I just could not visualize Hayden Christensen as Darth Vader. I do think he did a good job as Anakin though. Some people think he is a bad actor but as Anakin he was supposed to be confused and unsure about himself. That is what led to the dark side. I thought his style was perfect for the role.

No, ep.1 was moderately crappy, ep.2 was sucky shit, ep.3 kicked ass, ep.4 was somewhat good, ep.5 was the best, and ep.6 was good until the end (rebel scum)Ok why teh fuck is ep 4 "somewhat good" are you nuts, it's a classic. haha you damn imperialist rebels own.