New Remembrance day slogan: Forget the Vet

I'm not sure what I think of Remembrance day. We honor national soldiers who gave their lives in war....this is so stupid. These people that died were doing killing themselves. Why don't we simply mourn EVERYBODY from every country that has had to die for such a stupid reason like war. I don't feel like "honoring" a bunch of dead killers.

**Edit: I never spell rememberance right, but I don't care about the spelling of it any more than the meaning of it.***

 

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What I hate is alive vets, the kind that say they deserve this and that over you because they gave you freedom.
I feel like saying, "excuse me, sir, but you should be dead by now, picked off from the herd like any good earth-law abiding elderly organism, the fact you are living, breathing and most of all, consuming, offends me, and now you want me to pull that stick out of the spokes of your wheelchair? I tell you what, I won't kill you if you can outrun me"
etc

But i never say that

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couldnt have said it better myself, nebula. i agree completly!

 

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For fuck sakes!

Its true that the only reason you're sitting comfortably in your computer chairs, mocking the vets is because brave men fought and died to protect your right to do so. Sometimes war is necessary.

Even the greatest anti-war intellictuals of world war II supported action.

And so war vets deserve a decent amount of respect - not reverence (they have flaws too,) but respect. I don't know about you guys but I'm willing to care and provide resources for their consumption until death.

 

yes
lets honor these folks

 

lest we forget, eh?

 

well alright......plus

Bush signed a bill Tuesday to double military death benefits to $12,000; to give new tax incentives for home ownership for military families; to expand tax deductions for travel costs for National Guard and Reserve members; and to expand the definition of a combat zone, giving service members more flexibility in filing and paying taxes.

A second bill Bush signed Tuesday established six new national cemeteries.

just 6?

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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/11/bush.veterans.day/

 

These holdiays are there to make people feel better about being forced to fight in the war.

When a person is drafted, and dies or is injured, his family might scream "America's fault!"
With the advent of the happy holiday, less Americans tend to scream "America's fault!"
Instead they honor their so called "brave" relative for defending freedom and justice.
These holidays also make it easier for people to accept war as something that is necessary and feel better about losing a loved one.

All in all, these holidays are basically there to silence people. When people are complaining "America's fault!," just give them a silly ass holiday, and watch them shut the fuck up.
Same goes for Labor Day.
People: "We're tired of being exploited for the fruits of our labor. America's fault!"
America: "Here have a holiday."
People:"----"


Xerxes:
The only reason we're sitting comfortably in our computer chairs is because the slaves keep us from having to do the dirty work. If it wern't for the slaves, we wouldn't be sitting comfortably in our computer chairs. We would be doing the dirty work.


w00t! 1700

 

STOP RIGHT THERE!
Yo whats all this dissin' rememberance day?
I don't know what you do in the states but here in the UK we use the day to remember all victims of war.
As for those murderous vets...
Who the hell wants to get shot at?
Who wants to be economically fucked to the point where the armed forces sounds like a positive career choice?
Who wants to be fed prejudice and misinformation for half a liftime and then be told;
"Heroes take arms! They are coming!" ?
Who wants to be plain fuckin' drafted at the age of 17?

There but for the grace of God people.
War is very very bad.
Don't forget
Remember.
Dee cee

 

You know, I'd feel better about Remembrance day/ Veterans' day except for one minor thing.

They keep telling me about WWI.

Seriously, if you lived in Europe, WWI was a serious thing... on the other hand, to tell someone in North America that WWI bought them their freedom is kind of a lie, or at least an extremely melodramatic exaggeration.

Having studied some of the history of that period I sincerely doubt that the "Mad Kaiser" Wilhelm was going to march across the Atlantic and take over the US, so why lie?

I think it's a little odd, because I hear about WWII every other damn day of the year, as if the Holocaust was the only feature of the US's moral landscape.

And yet somehow on Remembrance/Vets day, it's WWI! The Somme! Vimy Ridge! Thousands of people dying as guinea pigs in the experiment to find a strategy that includes machine guns... it was a sad, sad war, and it was finally resolved when there was no one left to fight it.

If we're going to remember a war we should remember it for what it was, and WWI was sure as hell not a war about American freedom. WWII might have been... still not sure about that...

 

It sucks.
Don't you brits have anything better to do than honor dead terrorists?

 

I like remembrance day actually. I want to honor the soldiers who died so that I might have the chance to work Nov 11 and make time and a half stat pay.

Thanks again dead guys.

 

"It sucks.
Don't you brits have anything better to do than honor dead terrorists?"

Yup. Thats why its like DeeCee said before. Besides, its better than funding live terrorists now isnt it?

I sympathise with BigBlueHead. However, I dont feel overexposed to WW2 or WW1 in every day life. Sure, theres plenty of USA'ians iwlling to say "if it wasnt for us youd be speaking german" every time you say something derogatory about the USA, but apart from that, there isnt much more happening.

"If we're going to remember a war we should remember it for what it was, and WWI was sure as hell not a war about American freedom. WWII might have been... still not sure about that..."

WEll, I never quite understand the USA tendency to go on about freedom etc even now. Sure, we in the UK have that thrown at us, but thepoint of rememberance day is to remember all teh dead people and damage war does, not so much give thanks for our freedom. As for WW2, the quesiton to ask is who's freedom?

 

Screw the vets! What about having another day for Jesus. Like a day to remind us all that Jesus created the heavens and earth.

 

coolskill: we have that day, it's called THanksgiving. Or possibly St. Patrick's day. One of the two.

 

Ya well maybe we should have another one.

 

theres been no war to save american freedom since world war 2, most of those vets are gone. Anyone who says within the last 58 years a vet has died for our freedom is full of shit.

 

I'm not sure what I think of Remembrance day. We honor national soldiers who gave their lives in war....this is so stupid. These people that died were doing killing themselves. Why don't we simply mourn EVERYBODY from every country that has had to die for such a stupid reason like war. I don't feel like "honoring" a bunch of dead killers.

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What I hate is alive vets, the kind that say they deserve this and that over you because they gave you freedom.
I feel like saying, "excuse me, sir, but you should be dead by now, picked off from the herd like any good earth-law abiding elderly organism, the fact you are living, breathing and most of all, consuming, offends me, and now you want me to pull that stick out of the spokes of your wheelchair? I tell you what, I won't kill you if you can outrun me"
etc

But i never say that

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couldnt have said it better myself, nebula. i agree completly!

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stupidity and selfishness sees no boundaries.
i sincerely hope you are not serious.

 

I am impressed that the Americans are still proud of WWII - the Italian campaign (that would be Patton) was a total disaster. I don't think that drowning Kesselring in a sea of American blood was really such a great achievement.

 

The Selfish-Genetic Sociology of Veterans:

To understand this we must look at the human animal, human’s will band together in groups of common ideologies and/or genetics (ex. White will band with white, blacks with blacks, Americans with Americans, Russians with Russians.) This banding habit is genetically designed it allows humans to work together and fight for resources more effectively. This is how the ideal of nationality is founded… when somebody of your “nationality” dies defending your “nation” your obligated to pay s/he with respect despite the fact the you never know s/he, may or may not agree with what s/he fought and died for or how many “other” people s/he kill. The “other” people your obligated to hate or never respect or give a dam about no matter how many were killed. Thanks to modern media people are getting the idea that other people and just like them and the ideal of nationality is eroding as such we now question respecting warriors and not the fallen enemies as well.