Is it time to end the Nato and for Europe to start looking after itself? Is the USA really still needed by Europe to make a stronge defense against the Warchau Pact? No. It doesn't exist anymore.

Who is the biggest threat currently in the world? Could it be the USA with its increasing aggressive foreign politics?

Why not start a European Defense Organization. We could simply start by making a treaty between the members of the European Union.

It will make Europe independent military from the USA which will lead to more economic independence and freedom. It will also safeguard our future against the interests of the USA.

I can't wait till America invades your precious Europe.

Me neither. Let's make an appointment for soon.

don't forget numbnuts that the dutch backed america going into iraq.

don't forget numbnuts that the dutch backed america going into iraq.

Hey, not the Dutch's fault. They prolly needed more hookers in Amsterdam and prolly made a killin' off the imported Israeli sex trafficing taken from displaced Iraqi homes. ;)

- N

Hey, not the Dutch's fault.
- N
yeah, right. the dutch provides intelligence that iraq has WMD but aren't responsible for said intelligence? only in your dreams neildo.

Surely if you've read my whole post, you'd see what I said was in jest.

- N

Hey, not the Dutch's fault. They prolly needed more hookers in Amsterdam and prolly made a killin' off the imported Israeli sex trafficing taken from displaced Iraqi homes. ;)

- N
fuck all...they dont need more!!

have you ever been, neildo?

I can't wait till America invades your precious Europe.

...LOL! America and her money has already "invaded" Europe and mostly those nations are happier than pigs in shit to get that money!

Look how much damage the lack of American tourist money did for the French economy during the days when Americans began hating the French. France was crying to get the tourists back to her nation.

Italy suffered a lot during a couple of periods when Americans stopped going to Italy for various political reasons.

Germany is probably scared to death that America will pull all of it's troops and the associated money out of Germany.

England's economy suffered greatly because Americans quite going there due to the mad-cow disease scare.

Many nations of Europe enjoy the money of the madly-spending Americans, yet they pretend to hate the very thing that keeps them afloat! ...LOL!

Baron Max

Is it time to end the Nato and for Europe to start looking after itself?

Hmm, I don't know, Spurious ....can European nations ever agree on any-fuckin'-thing? If Europe was to be invaded by a vast army of enemy soldiers, the nations of Europe would take years to decide what to do about it! ...LOL!

Baron Max

Baron Max, a very good point Baron, all you have to do is look at the cold war, even with the threat of the Soviet Union, which country in Europe didn't look to the Americans to be the power in the fight, did any European country ever match the U.S. in the number of troops deployed for defense of their country?

Many nations of Europe enjoy the money of the madly-spending Americans, yet they pretend to hate the very thing that keeps them afloat! ...LOL!

Baron Max
so in essence, what you are saying is that american tourism dollars keep each of these nations financially alive?

are you seriously that slow?

The Devil Inside, yes tell me were the European economies would be if they had to carry the true cost of defense to protect themselves during the Cold War, and yes we do affect large amounts of the European economy with our Tourist Dollars, and our Defense Dollars, and our Aid Dollars, if we pulled everything out of Europe right now what kind of depression do you think would follow, I wouldn't even want to think were that scenario would go, the U.S. has been the foundation of the European economy, it started after WWII when we started the Marshal Plan that rebuilt Europe from the total destruction of WWII. Yes Europe would have eventually rebuilt it self, but with American aid it was done decades sooner, so when will we ever be given credit for the full effect of what we did for Europe, allies and enemies?

The Dutch helped you also out during your independence war. Forgotten about that. So did France.

The Dutch helped you also out during your independence war. Forgotten about that. So did France.

So ....how far back into history do we go to prove some point about what's going on today? How 'bout what happened just prior to 100BC? ...LOL!

What the fuck does the Netherlands do for money, anyway? What products do the export and to whom? Where does the Netherlands government get the money to give every citizen a free ride?

Baron Max

See here:

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1143588#post1143588

What the fuck does the Netherlands do for money, anyway? What products do the export and to whom? Where does the Netherlands government get the money to give every citizen a free ride?

You highly underestimate the economic power of the Dutch.

- N

You highly underestimate the economic power of the Dutch.

I didn't underestimate them at all ...or overestimate them either. If you notice, my post asked questions, not made any statements or assertions ...or didn't you read the post? Or did you just read INTO it what you wanted to read?

Baron Max

I didn't underestimate them at all ...or overestimate them either. If you notice, my post asked questions, not made any statements or assertions ...or didn't you read the post? Or did you just read INTO it what you wanted to read?

I did what every person on Sciforums does, read INTO it. ;)

- N