Imagine the Earth, a north and south pole. Are they true? Imagine a magmet, the field in the middle, pushing against each other when positive and positive sides are equal. Now imagine the moon (Or our SUN) in its full gravitional stage, aligned with the Earth at the Burmuda Triangle. Could this be whats causing the erractic begavior in the Triangle? All do Not happen all the time, just sometines. This may be the cause of the effect.
David Moore

Could you explain what you're trying to say more specifically??

Everybody knows the FREEMASONS did the Bermuda Triangle.

Missing planes, indeed - in groups of threes, much as the Masonic Crosses are clustered in threes. When boats vanish, they are rediscovered FOURTEEN days later, much like the steps of ascendancy in the Masonic ritual. And every ship captain who vanished had defied a Grand Mason in his hometown. There are infinite other "coincidences," but the fact is that the Masons had the power, and the money, and the government influence to make these people disappear.

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OMG NUMEROLOGY.

this kind of reminds me of watching television
sitting there with the remote and clicking one channel after another
saying to myself "man isn't there anything good on?"

Imagine the Earth, a north and south pole. Are they true? Imagine a magmet, the field in the middle, pushing against each other when positive and positive sides are equal. Now imagine the moon (Or our SUN) in its full gravitional stage, aligned with the Earth at the Burmuda Triangle. Could this be whats causing the erractic begavior in the Triangle? All do Not happen all the time, just sometines. This may be the cause of the effect.
David Moore

Wow, that's even worse than most of the crackpot theories I've already heard.

lol Welcome to SciForums. I find that since my joining SciForums on 1-08-06, SciForums has become incresingly hostile towards new members. But Davidmoore57, for the record, my first post was defending America's reputation. Enough said.

Imagine the Earth, a north and south pole. Are they true? Imagine a magmet, the field in the middle, pushing against each other when positive and positive sides are equal. Now imagine the moon (Or our SUN) in its full gravitional stage, aligned with the Earth at the Burmuda Triangle. Could this be whats causing the erractic begavior in the Triangle? All do Not happen all the time, just sometines. This may be the cause of the effect.
David Moore


Welcome to SciForums.

I am still much more inclined to believe that the Bermuda Triangle phenomenon was a matter of atmospheric pressure/temperature differentials and square windows to concentrate stress, not on gravity or earth's magnetism.

You can say a magnetar did it, but then the area of destruction would cover a whole swath. So no go.

The idea that the triangle's sediment is highly saturated with gas seems to have something going for it.

Many tests have shown that bubbles erupting from the surface lowers the bouyancy of any craft in the area, and will cause it to sink.

With studies in violent Lake Overturn suggesting that similar situations can even cause lakes to explode in volcano-like gaseous releases, I'm thinking that gas is currently the most likely theory for any oddities in the triangle.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mhalb/nyos/disaster/indexdisaster.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Triangle#Methane_hydrates

The Bermuda Triangle Is A Terible Mystery Up To Date.no Scientist Is Rally Able To Explain The Cause. But I Bellieve With Time The Upcoming Scientist Will Discover This,we Just Need To Struggle And Explore.am Sure It Has Something To Do Wih The Earths Rotation And Gravitational Attraction.

1. Don't type every word beginning with a capital. It's not correct grammar, and it makes it hard to read

2. A theory has alread been put forward, check river-winds post.

3. Why would gravity have anything to do with it? It's not as if the bermuda triangle is anywhere special.

I have yet to see anything that dispels the two most likely explanations for an abnormally large number of lost ships and airplanes in the "Bermuda Triangle": An abnormally large number of ships and airplanes cross the Bermuda Triangle, and an abnormally large number of hurricanes cross the Bermuda Triangle. If the statistics said anything but that, Lloyds of London would charge an abnormally large fee for ships and airplanes crossing the Bermuda Triangle.

Yes, I should have mentioned that.

Any of you heard of the dragons Triangle?

Details here:


"The Dragon's Triangle
Author : Ade Dimmick



In recent years much has been written about the Bermuda Triangle and the mysterious phenomena associated with it. Most of us are aware that the Bermuda Triangle is a triangular shaped area of ocean stretching from the Straits of Florida, north-east to Bermuda, south to Lesser Antilles and then back to Florida.

Less known, on the other side of the world, there exists a similar area of ocean known as the Dragon’s Triangle. The Dragon’s Triangle follows a line from Western Japan, north of Tokyo, to a point in the Pacific at approximate latitude of 145 degrees east. It turns west south west, past the Bonin Islands, then down to Guam and Yap, west towards Taiwan, before heading back to Japan in a north north easterly direction.

Both areas share stories of missing maritime vessels and aircraft, reports of malfunctioning navigational and communication equipment and tales of drifting, crewless ghost ships.


The Dragon’s Triangle in particular, bears testament to an ever-changing seascape. Islands and lands masses have formed and disappeared literally overnight through volcanic activity and seaquakes. Records reveal islands charted by experienced navigators, and documented as having been visited; yet years later no trace of these places could be found!

Another common factor is the existence of agonic lines - lines of no magnetic variation, along which the magnetic needle points directly north and south. The principle agonic line in the Western Hemisphere runs directly through the Bermuda triangle, whilst the principle agonic line in the Eastern Hemisphere runs through the Dragon’s triangle. Which in both cases often leads to extreme compass deviation in the surrounding area. For over a thousand years, possibly longer, the Japanese and their neighbours have recorded strange occurrences and disappearances. Ancient records tell of restless dragons surfacing from the depths, and taking unfortunate mariners back to their underground lairs. Legends dating back to c.1000Bc tell of underwater palaces inhabited by dragons and of a great slumbering dragon which lived in the cavern beneath the sea.

However, it wasn’t until the late 1960’s that western attention was drawn to this eastern phenomenon, and connections made with the Bermuda Triangle. Despite frequent coverage in the Japanese media of disappearances, reports rarely made the international press. Language barriers and racist attitudes may have a lot to do with this. One wonders how well known the Bermuda Triangle might have been if it wasn’t situated off the coast of the United States?

In ancient times such happenings were explained by the interventions of gods, demons and mythical creatures. Today, the fate of the missing craft and crews remains a mystery; although many explanations have been suggested. These include, alien abduction, the disappearance into a “black hole” or gateway to another dimension, time or parallel universe. The destruction and disappearance without trace by extreme natural phenomena. Falling prey to covert military or scientific experimentation or abduction by “unfriendly forces”. Even elaborate insurance fraud has been suggested; whereby ships end up in breakers yards and are reported missing in the triangle!

Whatever the answer, the Dragon’s Triangle, along with it’s Bermudan equivalent, remains one of the world’s best kept secrets. Perhaps the answer lies with the great slumbering dragon. "

I like the Freemasons doing it fact!

You are all wrong. It is obviously aquatic elves, whose elfin maidens are extremely seductive. They lure sailors to their deaths. Their hidden city is to be found in the depths upon the ruins of Atlantis...

On a serious note...The so-called "Bermuda Triangle" is one of the most heavily traveled regions in the world. If you were to compare the number of mysterious events in the triangle AS A RATIO to all of its traffic, you would find that it is about the same as any other spot on Earth.

The same is true of the "Dragon's Triangle".

Ya, rly.

So the Sirens evolved into elves did they?

wow..... this thread is about to "mysteriously dissappear"

This thread should be moved to some pseudo science forum.

It essentially assumes the validity of Bermuda Triangle mythology and attempts an explanation. This is not science. First you verify the data, then you look for explanations.

No cruise line or shipping company has problems recruiting crews for ships traveling thorugh the Bermuda Triangle. Does this suggest anything to thoughtful minds?

To paraphrase a remark by Asimov or Sagan or somebody similar to them.I know of no evidence supporting Bermuda Triangle mythology. There is much evidence that people misinterpret data, have hallucinations, lie, write nonsense to make a fast buck, are incredibly gullible, et cetera.Many phrases/nouns can be substituted for the phrase bolded above. suggestions are: Telepathy, Alien abductions, OBE, Astral projection, channeling, claivoyance, precognition, beginner's luck, astrology, et cetera.

None of the above should be discussed in a science forum.

I know what the "burmuda Triangle" is. It is a gateway from this world and to others. The government knows what it is. This is an artificial wormhole, and it has been here for a long long time. Its not a rip in time and space, just a hole punched into space. It gives other worldly travelrs access to jump from place to place quickly, travel faster than light is hard to do so why not create a jump station to get around the universe. This planet is just a stop, its actually one of many in the universe. They come here for our resources, other planets in our solar system are another reason why they stop. About 90% of extraterrestrial life that visit our planet come from the artificial wormhole. The ships and planes that vanished are ether destroyed or they traveled into the hole and ended up on another planet through another gateway. The key to the travel is the frequency you use at the time of the holes collapse. Its like a password or ticket, every gateway has one. Once you enter the gateway if you don't have the right frequency there is no telling where you will end up. I have more about it, and I know if anyone from the right part of the government is reading they will know what im talking about. Im not a crackpot or someone that likes to play jokes. Just know knowledge is power and they are always comming in and out of the gateway. We are under watch, but we don't pose a threat now but when the time comes when we do just look out becaulse our planet and our way of life is going to be over.

wow..... this thread is about to "mysteriously dissappear"


What makes you say tha

I know what the "burmuda Triangle" is. It is a gateway from this world and to others. The government knows what it is.

And how do you know what the government knows? Are you in the government?

This is an artificial wormhole, and it has been here for a long long time. Its not a rip in time and space, just a hole punched into space. It gives other worldly travelrs access to jump from place to place quickly, travel faster than light is hard to do so why not create a jump station to get around the universe. This planet is just a stop, its actually one of many in the universe.

Got any evidence for any of this?

They come here for our resources, other planets in our solar system are another reason why they stop.

Who is "they"?

About 90% of extraterrestrial life that visit our planet come from the artificial wormhole.

Extraterrestrials visit Earth? Got any evidence for that?

The ships and planes that vanished are ether destroyed or they traveled into the hole and ended up on another planet through another gateway.

Very few ships or planes have ever "vanished" in the Bermuda Triangle. Most which have had problems have been found later, and their problems have been explained.

I have more about it, and I know if anyone from the right part of the government is reading they will know what im talking about.

Are you allowed to talk about this? Better watch out, or the government might come for you! Hey, I might even be an FBI agent!

Im not a crackpot or someone that likes to play jokes.

I can tell.

Just know knowledge is power and they are always comming in and out of the gateway. We are under watch, but we don't pose a threat now but when the time comes when we do just look out becaulse our planet and our way of life is going to be over.

Got any evidence of that?

This thread should be moved to some pseudo-science forum or the cesspool.

I have first hand evidence, been there. I have seen it, I have witnessed the effects of the gate. When the gate opens it sends out a series of electro magnetic pulses, this can throw off a magnetic compass and cancell most unshielded electronic devices. Most eyewitnesses have reported the same effects and the same funnel shaped formation. Eyewitness accounts have been made sence columbus crossed the atlantic. Look it up there have been many ships and planes that have vanished without a trace, with no debris in sight. I have lists of known dissapearences and ones that have not made the sunday paper. The government has proformed many experiments regarding the gate. There is a secret naval base at Autec on Andros Island in the Bahamas that knows more about the triangle than anyone. I have met with people that were former naval employees, that when you get them drunk they will tell you there life story and anything else that they have seen in there life. Happy hunting, there are others that agree with me and know the truth.

Acidbrn391: The following paraphrases a statement by a wise man (Perhaps Carl Sagan or Isaac Asimov)I have never seen evidence supporting belief in Strange Bermuda Triangle phenomena. There is much evidence supporting the belief that people mistinterpret what they see, that they have hallucinations, that they make up stories (This is usually called lying).

You can substitue many word or phrases for Bermuda Triange phenomena, examples: ESP, OBE, Alien abductions, et cetera.Which of the above categories describes you?

Your name and your post suggest that you might have had some interesting LSD trips.

Hey dino, what do u have to hide? Looks like you try to hide behind some curtain of intelligence and skepticism. You need to try to open your mind to new ideas. You beleave that if you just throw out everyone elses ideas and comments about the world, that you will sleep better thinking that you live a safe and fluffy world. Your wrong I have read your other comments and threads, you might be smart but you dont have a clue about most stuff. Must be nice to live in ignorant bliss.

Acidbrn391: Might you have some examples of most stuff?you might be smart but you dont have a clue about most stuff. Must be nice to live in ignorant bliss.When a rmind is as open as yours. brains fall ouit and people put crap into it.

The "crap" in my head as you say, makes me 6 figure salary. A bit more than a retired hardware engineer. Anyway this is the last of my comments, have better things to do. I hope you enjoy your life behind your screen, while Im doing something better with my life. :)

P.S Voltaire

Sleep easy and dream of your perfect safe world.

Acidbrn391: So long! It has been interesting. I am happy that you make a six figure salary. Your claim about the salary is as likely to be true as your claim about having had some far out experiences relating to non-existent Bermuda Triangle nonsense. I have first hand evidence, been there. I have seen it, I have witnessed the effects of the gate. When the gate opens it sends out a series of electro magnetic pulses, this can throw off a magnetic compass and cancell most unshielded electronic devices. Most eyewitnesses have reported the same effects and the same funnel shaped formation. Eyewitness accounts have been made sence columbus crossed the atlantic.Does acid result in such experiences?

I know drunks who tell me about Leprachauns and pink elephants, but I do not believe in such creatures.There is a secret naval base at Autec on Andros Island in the Bahamas that knows more about the triangle than anyone. I have met with people that were former naval employees, that when you get them drunk they will tell you there life story and anything else that they have seen in there life.That secret naval base should not hire drunks who talk about it.

The "crap" in my head as you say, makes me 6 figure salary.

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Yeah, right.

Im not a crackpot or someone that likes to play jokes.

Whew, I'm glad you cleared that up. I totally believe every word you've said, sucked it up like a sponge and made it part of my world view beliefs.

You've got my support, sport.

Imagine the Earth, a north and south pole. Are they true? Imagine a magmet, the field in the middle, pushing against each other when positive and positive sides are equal. Now imagine the moon (Or our SUN) in its full gravitional stage, aligned with the Earth at the Burmuda Triangle. Could this be whats causing the erractic begavior in the Triangle? All do Not happen all the time, just sometines. This may be the cause of the effect.
David Moore
davidmoore57@bellsouth.net

Instead of a 'Big Magnet' theory to explain the so-called Bermuda Triangle mystery, how about the 'Communal Reinforcement' theory for starters?

http://www.skepdic.com/bermuda.html

Before one spends time looking for causes, one should have some evidence of the effects.

How about some hard evidence that peculiar events occur in the Bermuda Triangle? After establishing that weird events happen, it would make sense to look for theories explaining the weird events.

I have seen some other threads with this point of view, namely proposing a theory to explain events not known to occur.

Is this due to the originator of the thread being naive? Perhaps it is due to the originator attempting to imply undeserved credibility. Attempting to explain a cause for some phenomenon implies the reality of the phenomenon. Perhaps the thread originator is attempting some smoke & mirrors justification for belief in Bermuda Triangle mythology.

"Burmuda Triangle Therory?" The author MUST be an American.

Bermuda Triangle? More like a sinister Trapezoid.

first:

@davidmoore57
>Imagine the Earth, a north and south pole. Are they true? Imagine a magmet, the field in the middle, pushing against each other when positive and positive sides are equal. Now imagine the moon (Or our SUN) in its full gravitional stage, aligned with the Earth at the Burmuda Triangle. Could this be whats causing the erractic begavior in the Triangle? All do Not happen all the time, just sometines. This may be the cause of the effect.

What explanation do you give? You think that in this field, metallic objects would be expelled into outer space because attracted by the moon?
- I think, given the moon-earth mass relation. and the distance of the moon, that's impossible, the moon's attraction is far too weak for that.
- The effect you describe, should then be possible in many other places located in a circle all around the globe or at last everywhere this circle crosses an ocean. Why only in the caribean "Bermuda triangle", and not allover the atlantic and pacific ocean along that west-east line?


other theory:
the underground methane sources in the Bermuda triangle region are quite a good scientific explanation for smaller ships vanishing, because water looses it's ship carrying capability when gaz bulbs come up. But it does not explain any disappearing of aircrafts. I think any disappeared aircrafts are lost in that region due to weather incidents and/or human errors. Be aware that many vanishings happened before the era of GPS and satellites. Pilots had to rely on classical positioning methods. In case of miscalculation and drifting away due to winds, small planes do not have illimited fuel on board....
Whereas for ships, i suppose various reasons, weather, positioning and gas bulb casualities.

Anyway i think the "Bermuda vanishing problem" has more or less vanished itself due to sophisticated onboard instrumentation, and air and sea space control and positioning with satellites, implemented since the 1980ies.

There was a previous discussion on the Bermuda Triangle (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=46993&highlight=bermuda) which lead to some interesting websites, however they really don't suggest anything spectacular about the area other than being in a region which is known to have a variety of weather patterns and the constantly shift reef's. (since coral is made by living organisms)

Well, there are alot of ideas here. Just out of curiosity, anyone ever wounder if Atlantis could have something to do with it? Could be a bit far fetched but something could rise to the surface now and then if a real city went down. (And I don't mean monters or ghosts)

Atlantis? You mean the fictional story that Plato used in one of his dialogs that 18th and 19th century significance-junkies said was real without offering any evidence?

Atlantis never existed past the Critias and Timeas dialogs.

Funny, most of the world has recorded text of their own that talk of a city like Atlantis and what happened. Would you like to say that you know better then all of them? I just wounder if it could have something odd that could effect the area above now and then.

Care to cite references to these "texts?"

k, From a carving in a wall is South America "A city if gold and wealth in the ocean to the north east.... They had power and wisdom but were corrupted and vanished in fire and flood."

Form Chinese records of 453BC. "We had traded with these people of the sea and found they had much to offer. They had art and things we had never seen. They claimed to be from an island half way across our world. Our trade with them was rare but their wounders welcomed. One day they did not come. Not long after fire and water was said to have consumed them. We never hear from them again."

India circa 110BC "The people of the mediterranean copied the ways of the people to the west. They came in ships and gave stone and cloth and rulled the sea. Greece wanted to copy all that they could and made their buildings and ships and cloth like the people beyond the mediterranean. Soon Greece was trading more then those to the west and they fell to war over it."

An tale form some NorthAmerican indians "A long time ago the island people that came from the west and traded for food and tools in large ships. We were happy to trade with them but then they stopped comeing so much.... Then they became so corrupt they killed themselves."

That is all I remember. The rest of the referances from different people around the work (about 14 more) talk of "The People of the sea were corrupted and the gods flooded the world (and often say that fire or volcanoes was also invalved)to get rid of them" or mention only some part of it and how they killed themselves off. Many said it was older. Only Plato called it "Atlantis", others had other names for them and mention "flood" in one way or another. But it seem most know of an island and a bad flood.

But no citations to any verifiable texts, eh? These may all be real texts, but without citations they're as good as from your imagination.

I guess you are right. I had to take the word of others that these were true as most didn't give their source beyond what I mention. Point conceded.

Those lines may actually exist, but without looking at their texts, we have no idea what the actual contexts are. Context makes all the difference in the world.

first:

@davidmoore57
>Imagine the Earth, a north and south pole. Are they true? Imagine a magmet, the field in the middle, pushing against each other when positive and positive sides are equal. Now imagine the moon (Or our SUN) in its full gravitional stage, aligned with the Earth at the Burmuda Triangle. Could this be whats causing the erractic begavior in the Triangle? All do Not happen all the time, just sometines. This may be the cause of the effect.

What explanation do you give? You think that in this field, metallic objects would be expelled into outer space because attracted by the moon?
- I think, given the moon-earth mass relation. and the distance of the moon, that's impossible, the moon's attraction is far too weak for that.
- The effect you describe, should then be possible in many other places located in a circle all around the globe or at last everywhere this circle crosses an ocean. Why only in the caribean "Bermuda triangle", and not allover the atlantic and pacific ocean along that west-east line?


other theory:
the underground methane sources in the Bermuda triangle region are quite a good scientific explanation for smaller ships vanishing, because water looses it's ship carrying capability when gaz bulbs come up. But it does not explain any disappearing of aircrafts. I think any disappeared aircrafts are lost in that region due to weather incidents and/or human errors. Be aware that many vanishings happened before the era of GPS and satellites. Pilots had to rely on classical positioning methods. In case of miscalculation and drifting away due to winds, small planes do not have illimited fuel on board....
Whereas for ships, i suppose various reasons, weather, positioning and gas bulb casualities.

Anyway i think the "Bermuda vanishing problem" has more or less vanished itself due to sophisticated onboard instrumentation, and air and sea space control and positioning with satellites, implemented since the 1980ies.


What about the other "Bermuda Triangle", Dragon's Triangle, on the other side of Earth, where the Mariana Trench is located. It is 6-7 miles blow sea level. Earth's crust is very thin here- close to the Moho discontinuity, the crust/mantle transitional area, where measured earthquake wave velocities sharply increase. Maybe the makeup of this little understood rock layer and its effects on gravity explain the paranormal events also reported as occuring here.

It wouldn't be hard to imagine that the Bermuda Tri and the Dragons Tri were connected through a "bottomless" area of the ocean, I once read hundreds of files and documents from a deceased "ufologist" who stated that the way that ufos power their crafts are from two pressure-fitted pieces of material gathered from the earths center. (hence possibly accessed this way).

It wouldn't be hard to imagine that the Bermuda Tri and the Dragons Tri were connected through a "bottomless" area of the ocean, I once read hundreds of files and documents from a deceased "ufologist" who stated that the way that ufos power their crafts are from two pressure-fitted pieces of material gathered from the earths center. (hence possibly accessed this way).

It wouldn't be hard to imagine that the Bermuda Tri and the Dragons Tri were connected through a "bottomless" area of the ocean,

That imagination would only be easy for the overly credulous and not anyone even mildly educated in geology.

I once read hundreds of files and documents from a deceased "ufologist"

You know what they say: the only good "ufologist" is a dead "ufologist."

good[/i] "ufologist" is a dead "ufologist."

Of course, the ones that get too close to 'The Truth' get whacked by the MIB! ;-)

People if u think were the only ones in the universe well i think your wrong.I believe that aliens may have a part in the dragons triangle. :shrug: :shrug:

<p> :argue:

People if u think were the only ones in the universe well i think your wrong.Who thinks that?


I believe that aliens may have a part in the dragons triangle. :shrug: :shrug:

<p> :argue:How did you come to this conclusion?