I still have horrible nightmares of having a small network at home with a hub and 2 computers a couple of years back. When win95 was still da shite (and still is).

I want to share internet between 2 computers. None of them have wireless, both of them have an ethernet card. But I remembered my awful days trying to figure out why my small network wasn't networking.

So I thought maybe these new USB networking cables will make things easier.

How wrong I was.

Filesharing is really easy with them. That worked immediately. Then can the problem of getting the network mode working. Obviously there isn't a useful manual that came with the thing. What came with it was an instruction to install the cable on windows9x, which didn't work on my XP computers btw. I had to do it differently. But still, the file transfer mode worked immediately.

So I tried network.

No go...

I connected the internet to one. Made that the host of a small home of business network. made the other the client. Nothing happened. The network was not working.

I tried to ping it...no pings...they didn't recognize the each other. The IPs were designated automatically. I made some manual ones. Pinged them...MY GOD...THEY GAVE ME A PING (this is after an hour of frustration). That is good i thought. No wait...only one computer gives a ping...the other doesn't.

I switched the internet to the other computer. Redid the network wizard in opposite directions. Assigned manual pings. Nothing...

Then I remembered I had disconnected one firewall earlier. I disconnected both firewalls. MY GOD 2 PINGS!!!!!

(this is after 2 hours of frustration or so).

Anyway, progress.

WOW, I can actually see the other computer in my neighbourhood network.

Maybe internet will work on the other computer?

NOOOOOoooo

I have no clue what to do next. I fucked around a bit with the network settings of the actual internet browser (so no direct connection to the internet), but that didn't help.

Anyone got any ideas.

I'm about to throw out 2 perfectly good computers out of the window.

Make sure you've got Internet Sharing installed on both machines - check by going to Control Panel>Add/Remove Programmes check your Windows set-up. You're looking for Internet Gateway or some such. If not instaled, install it from your instalation disc.

On both? that is odd...I might try that after I repair my window and remove 2 computers from the garden.

didn't make any difference. All the troubleshooting guides are no help at all. I'd imagine it is something very simple that is the problem.

The computers can see each other...why can't the client see the internet and use it?

get a hub

have you made sure to set one computer to share its connection, and one computer to use that connection(somewhere in the network setup)?
i tried for several weeks to make something like this work before i just got a network switch and set up a linux server(later replaced by a broadband modem when the lines were upgraded). i would reccomend you do the same, since option b only takes 20 minutes to set up and is almost fool-ploof

Yup, pretty much. If your using XP start off with the Home Networking Wizard on your main PC - specify right at the beginning that this is the computer that has the internet connection and that all other computers connect to the internet via it.

After you're done the programme will prompt you for a blank Floppy to which it'll export a setup programme which you then install to each respective computer on the network.

If you were using the Network Setup Wizard first off this should have been sorted on first try, possibly it was set up using the wrong networking options - since y'had to make adjustments to your firewall, this sounds more likely the case. The setup should have configured your firewall settings accordingly on all machines.

Create a system restore point, then afterwards delete your existing network connections and reset up via the Home Network Setup wizard - if that craps out, at least you can restore to your current point and try again.

But: "On both? that is odd...I might try that after I repair my window and remove 2 computers from the garden."

Yes, internet sharing as a windows component has to be present on all machines in order for a gateway to be set up. Fiddly bastard I know, but just let XP handle the setup as it wants to via the wizard and y'should be up and running in no time.

After you're done the programme will prompt you for a blank Floppy to which it'll export a setup programme which you then install to each respective computer on the network.

Of course I don't have floppies or a floppy drive on these computers...thinking I won't need them...


:o

I can't share internet on both computers, because the sharing connections needs to be on 192.186.0.1 apparently. Well, XP is quite adamant about that.

I think I am going to give up. I can see the other computer on the net work neighbourhood. They can ping each other. Just the fucking internet can't be shared.

I see that the comments I made in the other thread are off-base. As you have got the computers connected properly and they both see each other in Network Neighborhood (which is going bye bye in Vista, I hear.)

So....
One machine is XP and the other is 95?
And you don't have a floppy to set up the network on the 95 machine?
I'd recommend that you buy a floppy. They sell for less than 20 bucks and you can just buy one. First put it in your xp machine. Run the setup network wizard. Make it so that other computers connect to the internet through you or whatever the option is. Then make the setup disk. Then shut down that computer. Remove the floppy drive. Move it to the other computer. Then run the floppy in it.
That should work.

As to the network needing to be 192.168.0.1.... So? You had to set the network addresses manually, right? So, make it a 192.168.0.... network.
Make the xp machine 192.168.0.1 make the 95 machine 192.168.0.2. Set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.255.... (or would it be 255.255.255.0? The latter. Yeah. The 0 would mean that any address from 1 to 255 would be ok in that slot.... I think.)
And there you go.

What is your network address if not 192.168? What's the other one... 169 something? I never use that one. 192.168 is the default on most routers and etc...

They are both XPs.

I changed the IPs in many different kinds of combinations.

I am not going to touch them anymore ( i gave up).

That's your perogative.
You won't make it very far in linux with that attitude though.
Heh.

Just one last thing then.
If they're both XP then I find it strange that you made this comment: " On both? that is odd...I might try that after I repair my window and remove 2 computers from the garden."

You then go on to say that you did try it and it didn't work.
How did you try it exactly?
I suppose the easiest way to set this up would be with the network setup disk. But, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work if you just went through the wizard on both machines. On the machine that connects directly to the internet, you select the option that says "this machine connects directly to the internet and other computers connect through me" or something like that. The other machine, you choose the option that says "this machine connects to the internet through another machine using internet connection sharing" or something similar.

You did that? On both machines? And it didn't work?

As I've said, I've never used this feature in windows. It is only useful for dial-up and back when I had dial up, I had only one machine. With broadband, it's far easier to set up a network behind a router (and more secure). But, I do know that thousands (if not millions) of people use this feature of windows every day.

I wonder if the manual setting of ip addresses is required with the network setup disk or if it would do that automatically? I bet it would still need to be manually set...
Hmm.


Another thing.
Every time you run the network setup wizard, it automatically turns on Windows Firewall again.
You say that you see each other in network neighborhood, which suggests that the firewall isn't the issue. But still something to consider.


Anyway.
You gave up.
So none of this matters anyway.

Of course I don't have floppies or a floppy drive on these computers...thinking I won't need them...:o

Use a formated CD-RW disc or just burn the set-up onto a blank CD-R, depending on what sort of media drive y'have in the other.

It's this lack of running the Network Setup routine which is blanking you out, nothing else.

Windows doesn't give an option to make a network CD.


I guess I could make a network floppy on one computer and then copy it on a cd...

but I kind off put this bad dream behind me....

I'm trying to forget now...

Maybe this project has something to help you with -> http://www.ubcd4win.com/

Windows doesn't give an option to make a network CD.


Good Lord, how typically useless of the buggers - sorry old man, I was assuming. Just ran the thing m'self. Does have an option to use the XP Installation disc in preference though and instructions on how to use it on your other machines.

Best I can offer I'm afraid. Know how these things can pick at fellow. Drives me to distraction when something doesn't work the way its supposed to...

:mad: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Does have an option to use the XP Installation disc in preference though and instructions on how to use it on your other machines.


I tried that option of course...

:(

:( ... I thought y'might have.....

... I just wanted to.... to rub it in is all...... :(

You're computers a whore. Kill it and move on.

I did actually kill the wife's computer with all the networking shit. Had to do a clean install to make it work again properly.

Needless to say if I ever want sex again I cannot touch her computer.

'nough said I would say.

Needless to say if I ever want sex again I cannot touch her computer.

Indeed. I have a somewhat similar set up afoot with my better half, only it concerns me not touching my computer. Funny things women - y'can't eat them, y'can't hunt them for sport...

All the best,

A ;)