Elephant theory in Nessie search

Unexplained Nessie sightings could have been elephants swimming
Unexplained sightings of the Loch Ness monster could have been elephants enjoying a swim, a scientist has said.
Neil Clark, curator of palaeontology at Glasgow University's Hunterian Museum, spent two years researching Nessie.

He said they could have been circus elephants, as fairs visiting Inverness would often stop on the banks of Loch Ness to give the animals a rest.

The trunk and humps in the water would bear similarities to some of the most famous Nessie photographs.

There have been reporting sightings of "something" in Loch Ness dating back to the 6th Century and it has grown into one of the world's most enduring myths.

Hazy photographs and eyewitness accounts have sprung up over the past 100 years, without offering conclusive evidence that Nessie exists.


I do believe there is something alive in Loch Ness

Neil Clark
Palaeontologist


Dr Clark said most sightings of Nessie could be explained by floating logs or waves.

But he is promoting the elephant theory because his research showed circuses were a common occurrence in the area, particularly from the early 1930s.

"The circuses used to take the road up to Inverness and allow their animals to have a rest, swim about in the loch and refresh themselves," he said.

"It's quite possible that the people around Loch Ness saw some of these animals.

"When their elephants were allowed to swim in the loch, only the trunk and two humps could be seen - the first hump being the top of the head and the second being the back of the animal.

"The elephant theory would not explain some of the later sightings. I don't know when the last circus to Inverness was, but I'm presuming there were some after 1933."

Asked whether he believed in the Loch Ness monster, Dr Clark said: "I do believe there is something alive in Loch Ness."

Dr Clark's findings are published in the Open University Geological Society journal this month.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4779248.stm

I would like to be able to say something positive, but it sounds as if Herr Doktor has had a couple drinks. And perhaps, he may also be a bit bored.

Do they also have traveling circuses at Lake Champlain?

Er, well 'Nellie' was definitely an elephant!

As for 'Nessie', ... well, one picture claiming to be of the 'monster' was actually of an elephant bathing, but IIRC, not actually taken at Loch Ness, it's scam potential being realised after whoever took it returned back to England.

I don't really buy the explanation, as people tend to notice when a Circus comes to town, so a lone Elephant being taken out of context is a bit of a leap. If someone said 'I saw the Loch Ness monster, a Lion, and some juggling dwarves', I might buy it, however.

If someone said 'I saw the Loch Ness monster, a Lion, and some juggling dwarves', I might buy it, however.There is reasonable evidence that the dwarves were abducted by aliens, I have no idea what happened to the lion.

I spent two years adjacent to the Hunterian, separated by a single door. In addition to an excellent collection of geological specimens it has a large (possibly the largest) collection of Whistler's on the planet. This isn't especially relevant: its just that I don't get a lot of opportunity to talk about it.

I love this thread, a 'nessie' thread has been long due!:)

I personaly would like to believe that 'Nessie' is some sort of dragon or giant lizard, makes thing slightly more exciting.

Can anyone post any links specifically on nessie, with pictures and stuff? I've google imaged it but nothing spectacular has been found... :bugeye:

Well, the famous early 20th centry photo of Nessie was recently proved to be a fake. Another nail in the coffin, this would seem.

Along similar lines, I wonder what "Bloop" could have been if it wasn't a technical error?

Elephants tend to live in asia and africa,

Scotland???????

don't you think that elephants would be seen on land if they did live there

Not sure what nessie is but click the link then click nessie you will see a clip of footage i took in 2002 then i took the head shots frame by frame then you get the best head shots of nessie that has ever been seen and they are not fake may be this is nessie and this is what eveyone sees.

http://lsufos.com

Not sure what nessie is but click the link then click nessie you will see a clip of footage i took in 2002 then i took the head shots frame by frame then you get the best head shots of nessie that has ever been seen and they are not fake may be this is nessie and this is what eveyone sees.

http://lsufos.com
Well,,, I'm convinced. Those pictures certainly appear to be real :rolleyes:

They must be true, because they look similar to photos of an alien spaceship I saw yesterday. I apologise to all the people I unfairly called "w00 w00s", I just never imagined something like this could happen!

Here is the UFO that I saw:-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/alien.jpg

Pictures are real footage too was at lochness last week and took footage of object moving in the bay will add footage from 4 april 2006 soon pictures not great from footage but the footage of object is great you can view them at
http://lsufos.com/Nessie.html

Lsufos,
The whole Lochness Monster thing has been proven countless of times to be fraudulant.

However for those of you not from Scotland, don't by any means let that stop you visiting Scotland, as the people are of a sunny disposition even if the weather isn't and the scenery, well you really should see for yourself.

The problem with posting pictures about something thats proven to be fraudulant and then having other pictures of "UFO's" and perhaps aliens is that their falsity raises questions about the authenticity of anything else that you have "smoking gun" evidence for.

I mearly mention this so you can perhaps re-analyse what you are trying to sell at the end of the day.

Not sure what nessie is but click the link then click nessie you will see a clip of footage i took in 2002 then i took the head shots frame by frame then you get the best head shots of nessie that has ever been seen and they are not fake may be this is nessie and this is what eveyone sees.

http://lsufos.com

FRAUD.

No FRAUD by me, selling nothing to anyone as for the fraudulant nessie pictures i have no comment about it, as i have never been part of the any fraudulant nessie/ufo pictures, sorry about that but thats the truth.
What i look for is the nessie and ufo Phenomenon that so many people say or do see on lochness and the ufo Phenomenon above our heads.
I seek the truth the evidence nothing more nothing less i do not need to show pictures i have the footage that shows the nessie/ufo Phenomenon none are fake.
I am sorry this may not fit in with some peoples way of life and the way they see things in our world, and they live in a world that they are told as the truth and nothing else exists i am afraid i find these people can not see anything even when the Phenomenon is sticking out like a sore thumb.
Its sad that so few dont see anything and keep coming on threads of no Interest to them what a silly game of life they play.

lsufos,
I'm sorry to say the Nessie is just a gimmick, originally it was good for the local tourism industry although people should really look into the other things the Loch has to offer. In recent years there is the obvious "Tourist trap" merchanise which you can also find is the case in Roswell.

Thats probably the only evidence that links UFO's/Aliens and the Nessie together, their merchandising chains.

lsufos you might think that I'm attacking you or your beliefs personally (This is the same opinion that others that "Believe" things take up) however I'm not. My concerns are that if people are guilible enough to fall for poorly documented events with equally poor evidence, it allows so many conmen to cash in on their vunerability.

You might not be selling anything however you are selling the notion of a conspiracy in which others in that circle are selling merchandise which people then buy into. Perhaps the real conspiracy is how merchandisers might manipulate such beliefs to continue just to shift their wares.

The only Phenomona that exist with any occurance of Nessie or UFO's is people believing in something thats completely bogus. So much so that such people are pretty much research subjects of Psychology.

Stryder
Conspiracy to debunk everything use the ones with no belief mind control them and they do not know it they ask nothing do as they are told, Can not think for themself read it all in a book still playing with toy cars OR some thing on those lines more times than not all bad in bed could not make up there mind if that was real or not try it again.
The Study of Psychological Phenomena
Goverment Spooks tasks and missions on high pay to debunk any secert Goverment Agenda to use people for there own needs to make the ones who see and film and report UFO sightings of such crafts to make out they are not right in the head.

Research subjects of spooks

Elephants, OK, maybe, I could explain that in an African lake or river--but northern SCOTLAND? Where'd they escape from?

The circus.

"Nessie the elephant went to town/and said goodbye to the cir-cus"

Coincidence, non?

And Isufos, you are not making any sense. You use no punctuation and your sentences are jumbled. Furthermore TINC.

In so many words if you are not in to it then dont do it.
Why come on to threads that you dislike go play with your cars.

lsufos,
You mention of "debunking" and Secret Government agendas, well it's known that during the coldwar there was alot of fabrication and lies because of the fear of nuclear powers creating bigger nastier toys to "scare" each other with, on top of that was the whole dangerous spy game that most of those powers played which resulted in a number of agents deaths.

Would you rather know to much and be a threat back then, potentially placing your life on the line or be a humble nut job, debunked? Admittedly the way of the world is different now, there are still some that play nasty however they are rare and few between, mainly because all the worlds social systems are slowly outgrowing all this fear mongering and one day we'll all have truly democratic systems that deal with voting on policies rather than political figures, rather than the republic's many believe to be democratic.

The thing is that all this Debunk was for a completely different age and a completely different agenda, now that age has gone there is no longer need for it, however a few still deal with hidden truths that are "out of date" which means they continue a debunking trend that was started only to keep countries from knowing what the others were doing.

There is far more evidence available suggesting I'm accurate than there is to suggest what you would like to believe and that evidence hasn't been manufactured, it's been "Declassified" and collected by many reporters/writers.

In so many words if you are not in to it then dont do it.
Why come on to threads that you dislike go play with your cars.One might reasonably ask the same of you. This thread opened with an explanation for several of the early Nessie sightings, attributing them to circus elephants. In short, a wholly natural explanation involving an animal well known to science.

You, on the other hand, are promoting the notion of something altogther more mysterious and hitherto unidentified. If anyone is out of place in this thread then, it is you. Rather than advising others to pack up and leave, why don't you consider that option for yourself?

Yes one may ask not asking them to leave but there input is just shit head stuff now lets find a thread that they like and we can go and give them shit on it.

Stryder
A spook sets out to Debunk everything can not see past what he is told

Yes one may ask not asking them to leave but there input is just shit head stuff now lets find a thread that they like and we can go and give them shit on it.You live in Scotland. At one time we had the finest educational system in the world.
Learn to fucking write a coherent sentence you illiterate cretin. That morasse of inconsequentiality had the semantic content of the intestinal remnants of a three month deceased bactrian camel.
If you wish to have the remotest chance of your infantile fantasies being given more than a second's attention then you must, repeat must, learn at least the bare bones of the English language. (Wally.)

O I The Noo

Ophiolite
Do not use that fucking word anymore silly boy so many post full of shit.

Would you care to give some explanations of these phenomena Isufos? Or are you going to stand there spewing foam?

Would i why you are better talking crap they like it that way never been on a message board like this before that any one can jump in and post thousands of post just full of crap trying to stop others from posting a reply to threads they may like.

U KNOW

I see. We have yet to see an intelligent post from you, you know. All you have done so fr is berate us for not intsantly believing in UFOs and nessie due to some blurry videos and pictures.

Perhaps I need a holiday CH. I really have become inordinately intolerant of the mindnumbing stupidity and total lack of coherent thought from the likes of lsufos. At least the racist Vincent produces a structured, if invalid argument, and writes intelligibly. This moron is an insult to the human race. I despise him for making me think eugenics might be a good idea after all.

Ophiolite
An intelligent ass hole or so he says take a holiday your posts are full of shit you do not need to reply to this thread ass hole but you will why you have got fuck all to look forward too in your life but post on threads and think of your self as thr great intelligent post master gee grow up.
Do your have mates bet they dont go out with you anymore a sad lost silly boy spending all his free time and thats alot on threads posting trying to find a place that some one will listen about what he knows all about get off your ass hole get out and get a life silly boy.

C-H
Believing in somthing you have not got holding on to past is your down fall move on theres more to life than the internet and trying to be a intelligent post master like the side kick below sad life you lead sorry.

http://lsufos.com

lsufos, did you go to school? Is English your first language? Are you on any medication? Because you seem to have an attention span that lasts about three words and your 'sentences' change direction as you type them. There has to be an explanation for that.

btw, you question if Ophiolite has friends, when it's you that spends time outside, alone, trying to get pictures of nessie and UFOs. That's rich, it really is!

ignorant
No just got computer and started a site seen your own one yet gee this one is a right asshole indeed.

Many go looking some stay at home you never get out that room sorry life is to lived is that some one shouting to you to get off the computer now.

I find that there are a few like you on this great board who just try and stop others from posting what a asshole you are.

Many go looking some stay at home you never get out that room sorry life is to lived is that some one shouting to you to get off the computer now.

You assume too much, child. I do 'get out' quite a bit, but you know what, when I do, it's to go running, walking in the country side, or socialising with friends. I don't waste my time chasing fantasies.

I find that there are a few like you on this great board who just try and stop others from posting what a asshole you are.

I'm not stopping you from doing anything, I'm criticising what you do. You asked for comments on your web site, and you got some, quit whining.

I asked you some questionson the other thread, I'll repeat them here. Is English your first language? Did you go to school? Are you taking any medication? Because something has to explain your really broken prose, and I'd be interested to know what it is. I find it interesting that those with less skill expressing themselves are more often believers in the mystic.

Then don't waste my time chasing fantasies then you have no need to reply ethere.

For the intelligent asshole fuch off

Sorry in case you pull me up on spelling it is.

FUCK OFF

lsufos. Go and get an education, and then come back and see us. Stop being distracted from learning basic communication skills with all this UFO and Nessie rubbish, and learn to think, spell, and compose sentences.

Then, maybe, someone will take you seriously, but right now, you sound like a whining nine year old.

Last reply to you from me Stop being distracted and helping me with spelling you got alot of things do so get off youe ass and do them.
And learn about the rubbish thats on your site.

As i said seriously YOU GOT NOTHING IN YOUR LIFE

lsufos, you are a sad, deluded, badly educated fantasist.

And you live at home, with your mum.

No wrong bye

I thought you said you'd made your last reply?

Last reply to you from me

So why do you keep making new posts?

You can't think straight, can you?

Simplest way to fix the current problem... close the thread. (And don't bother asking it to be reopened... it's a final.)