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Does money play such a big role in a success of finding the true love?

hahaha

to me it is not so much about money, it's more about resolunetenss

It depends on your definition of true love and also your love of money.

If you are wealthy then you have more freedom to meet potential 'true loves' so yes money plays a big role. :)

If you are wealthy then partners are more likely to take an interest initially so you are more likely to realise your 'true love'. :p

If you love money 'too much' then your time will be spent in the pursuit of more money rather than meeting potential 'true loves' so money plays less of a part.

One thing is for certain, a lack of money makes maintaining love more difficult, financial trouble is a major cause of break up. :(

heartbreaking story, thank you singularity, unlike you I had no such sufferings. In fact never had any woman, nor a girlfriend. Life dammit...all for the sake of education.
But then all I have to do now, is get a job once I graduate, get money, open a swiss bank account, go outside wave the bank account note, and voila...there she is my sweetheart...true love indeed...

And in church...the priest will say..."do you take this woman to be your lawful wife?"...Ill say, "yes"....and the priest says to me, "please sign the 100,000$ bank account note in the name of your beloved wife"...."and you bride please sign no-strings-attached-if-I-divorce-I-still-have-the-money-and-the-kids note" .... http://www.hiphopcanada.com/_site/community/phpBB2/images/smiles/A%20(1).gif ...is this how life really is?

all women want is money. thats why prostitutes are so expensive :P

Huuuuuummm...

Yeah, 95% of time.
In fact, even if you get true love, you can still have money problems. Maybe they are so focused on the money to avoid those problems?

I don't know... I'm not a woman... :confused:

I've spent most of my life alone. Last Valentine's day was my first real one. My wife is with me even though I'm poor.... :)

It took me A LOT of fighting and determination to find her and get together with her...

How many wives does the founder of playboy has had?
(And still have, for that matter...)

Women don't just want money. But the point is that almost all women mature faster, more reliably, and more completely than many men do. They have to, their bodies force it on them. If they don't wise up and learn to behave like responsible grownups they end up having a bunch of children to take care of when they're sixteen or seventeen years old.

And the one thing mature women generally want in their men is maturity. Yeah, sometimes they might have a fling with a particularly charming guy who is emotionally an adolescent, but in terms of planning their lives (how many men do that, hmm?) they've got to have somebody who won't sabotage the planning or simply not hold up their end.

Economics is the philosophy of our era. Money is its mythology. The ability of a man to be financially prosperous is the measure of his ability to hold up his end of a domestic relationship, to be a functional member of our society. Yes, that can be exchanged for something else. If a guy is a great father and homemaker, can fix a broken hoover with a screwdriver and a crescent wrench, can diagnose dog illnesses and buy the medicines wholesale, and basically is a perfect Mister Mom, and the woman has the good fortune to be able to hold down a job with a salary that is (for a woman) well above average, then that relationship might be satisfactory. He's demonstrating his maturity and stability in another way than the conventional holding-a-job way.

If a woman doesn't want to have children (and those are really rare), or has already raised hers and owns her own home from a previous marriage, then perhaps a man who offers an alternative lifestyle and doesn't need to bring much money into the arrangement might hit the spot.

But most families can't work that way. The guy simply has to have a decent job and he has to be able to invest money for the future. The old philosophy of my generation, "Honey, we'll never be making as little money as we are now, so let's max out the credit card and take an extended trip to Europe," just ain't true any more. You and your honey could both be unemployed next year--and the year after--living on what you've got in the bank plus what you can raise by selling off your art and jewelry and what you can scrounge from your parents if they've got anything to spare.

You guys who complain about women judging you by the metric that life judges you by don't say how old you are. But bear in mind that women who are your age chronologically are probably ten to fifteen percent older than that in terms of "growing up." They just flat have to be to survive. Statistically, they will have children, and unlike us they can't ride off into the sunset and leave somebody else to figure out how to raise them.

Women don't just want money. But the point is that almost all women mature faster, more reliably, and more completely than many men do. They have to, their bodies force it on them. If they don't wise up and learn to behave like responsible grownups they end up having a bunch of children to take care of when they're sixteen or seventeen years old.
Women are generally immature when it comes to finances. I rarely see a women that knows how to deal with that. My accounting teacher, of course, is one of them.

And the one thing mature women generally want in their men is maturity.
I don't remember the last time I saw a woman with a mature man. Oh wait! I saw her this morning! My wife.... :rolleyes: :D

Yeah, sometimes they might have a fling with a particularly charming guy who is emotionally an adolescent, but in terms of planning their lives (how many men do that, hmm?) they've got to have somebody who won't sabotage the planning or simply not hold up their end.
Yes, I agree. That means that most mature men spend their entire adolescence alone. It's the punishment you have to pay for being mature. I was one of them.

Economics is the philosophy of our era. Money is its mythology. The ability of a man to be financially prosperous is the measure of his ability to hold up his end of a domestic relationship, to be a functional member of our society.
And to fight against the government, of course... :rolleyes:

Yes, that can be exchanged for something else. If a guy is a great father and homemaker, can fix a broken hoover with a screwdriver and a crescent wrench, can diagnose dog illnesses and buy the medicines wholesale, and basically is a perfect Mister Mom, and the woman has the good fortune to be able to hold down a job with a salary that is (for a woman) well above average, then that relationship might be satisfactory. He's demonstrating his maturity and stability in another way than the conventional holding-a-job way.
Well done. Most people don't think that way.

The old philosophy of my generation, "Honey, we'll never be making as little money as we are now, so let's max out the credit card and take an extended trip to Europe," just ain't true any more.
Reeeeeeeeeally!? When was the last time you took a look at the consumer debt?

You and your honey could both be unemployed next year--and the year after--living on what you've got in the bank plus what you can raise by selling off your art and jewelry and what you can scrounge from your parents if they've got anything to spare.
That's because you guys got a whole bunch of debt so that we can pay it for you!

You guys who complain about women judging you by the metric that life judges you by don't say how old you are. But bear in mind that women who are your age chronologically are probably ten to fifteen percent older than that in terms of "growing up." They just flat have to be to survive. Statistically, they will have children, and unlike us they can't ride off into the sunset and leave somebody else to figure out how to raise them.
I'm 21 years old and have a child with my 20 year old wife. Though, yes, she is mature in her mind, she has no idea whatsoever about how to deal with money. In fact, if the system in the bank fails she freaks out. But, of course, I should change banks....

Women are generally immature when it comes to finances. I rarely see a women that knows how to deal with that.They're just playing the game because we've been taught to like women who don't understand finance and they've been taught to make us think that they don't. Believe me, they all know it cold. Take one shopping for real estate and she'll tell you whether the house is reasonably priced, whether you can afford it, and how much the monthly payments will be.Reeeeeeeeeally!? When was the last time you took a look at the consumer debt?All I said was that the younger generation can no longer assume that their income will steadily rise for the rest of their lives like their parents did. I didn't say that they have figured that out yet.I'm 21 years old and have a child with my 20 year old wife. Though, yes, she is mature in her mind, she has no idea whatsoever about how to deal with money.
Women don't think linearly. She knows how to deal with money: find a man who has it and is responsible with it and don't let him get away. :)

Fraggle Rocker

U r immature.

They're just playing the game because we've been taught to like women who don't understand finance and they've been taught to make us think that they don't. Believe me, they all know it cold. Take one shopping for real estate and she'll tell you whether the house is reasonably priced, whether you can afford it, and how much the monthly payments will be.
My wife doesn't even understand the compounding nature of money let alone financing! :eek:

I have yet to see a woman with financial skills (besides accounting teachers, of course).

All I said was that the younger generation can no longer assume that their income will steadily rise for the rest of their lives like their parents did. I didn't say that they have figured that out yet.
Well, I did... :rolleyes:

i take care my my finances pretty well... i don't see what's so complicated about it... basically you cannot spend more than you earn. You just have to keep a track of how much you are spending.

i've been raised to be self sufficient, but i woulld never allow a man to be dependent of me. I wouldn't marry a man that can't at least afford his own living.

i take care my my finances pretty well... i don't see what's so complicated about it... basically you cannot spend more than you earn. You just have to keep a track of how much you are spending.

i've been raised to be self sufficient, but i woulld never allow a man to be dependent of me. I wouldn't marry a man that can't at least afford his own living.

so why would a man merry a woman that can't at least afford her own living?

i dont think they should

Women don't just want money. But the point is that almost all women mature faster, more reliably, and more completely than many men do. They have to, their bodies force it on them. If they don't wise up and learn to behave like responsible grownups they end up having a bunch of children to take care of when they're sixteen or seventeen years old.

Thank you for the nice post fraggle,

I do not think women are after money. I do realize that in some cultures there is more emphasis on money. Here in the states men will take out a loan to finance an engagement ring. In Europe we tend to think that this is just plain insane.

I am 36. I got married last year. The wife is a tad bit younger I'm afraid and has lived through hardship. So have I. Money is not the most important thing in our lives. Maybe that is why we dislike being in the US. What we are looking for is living a comfortable live and, no, you do not need to be rich for that. A comfortable live is about having friends, a roof above your head and an enjoyable environment. The wife (she knows I call her that) wears two plain golden rings. No diamonds. Love is not about the size of her ring. We are looking to be able to provide a future for our children. That is not done by saving up a lot of money in some college funds. That is by trying by providing the proper environment for them in which they learn to appreciate live and in which they are stimulated. That doesn't mean spoiling them. In fact spoiling children is the easiest thing to do. Giving your children a sense of appreciation of life (i do not know how to word it better) is much more difficult.

I have a much better salary now in the US than I would have in Europe, but I honestly feel that the environment here is impoverished (culturally, enjoyment value, life appreciation). We have just been discussing this matter and think we should take a hit in income and maybe move back just for this reason.

In fact I was unemployed when we got married and no immediate prospects for a job. I was living of my meager savings I had. She was not working either but studying. There was a child and we wanted more children. All of this without any prospect of financial security. You can't let your life depend on money. Nothing will ever happen when you do.

Ironically now that I have a decent job the financial insecurity is much greater than before. I for instance just got hit by a hospital bill despite the silly fact that I am supposed to have insurance. And now I will spend the rest of the week hanging on the fucking phone to try to sort this out. And at moments as these you realize that money is nothing. Nothing is less important than money. I just have to take a look at my family to realize that. It is just that we happen to live in a society where money is everything. And some societies are worse in this respect than others.

It is ugly.

That was a nice post Spurious. Most excellent. I would suggest leaving the U.S. now, if you can. I'm not being sarcastic. I've spent a little time in Europe and I think that they have, today, a much healthier outlook on life, overall, than Americans. The whole feel of the places I visited was different, better, to me. Much less focus on money. Much more focus on family and enjoying life. I've wanted out of here for years. However, once you get used to somehthing, it is very hard to break old habits. Even if they are bad habits. Plus, I worry about money and not speaking the languages. :)

I do not think women are after money. I do realize that in some cultures there is more emphasis on money. Here in the states men will take out a loan to finance an engagement ring. In Europe we tend to think that this is just plain insane.

I am 36. I got married last year. The wife is a tad bit younger I'm afraid and has lived through hardship. So have I. Money is not the most important thing in our lives. Maybe that is why we dislike being in the US. What we are looking for is living a comfortable live and, no, you do not need to be rich for that. A comfortable live is about having friends, a roof above your head and an enjoyable environment. The wife (she knows I call her that) wears two plain golden rings. No diamonds. Love is not about the size of her ring. We are looking to be able to provide a future for our children. That is not done by saving up a lot of money in some college funds. That is by trying by providing the proper environment for them in which they learn to appreciate live and in which they are stimulated. That doesn't mean spoiling them. In fact spoiling children is the easiest thing to do. Giving your children a sense of appreciation of life (i do not know how to word it better) is much more difficult.

I have a much better salary now in the US than I would have in Europe, but I honestly feel that the environment here is impoverished (culturally, enjoyment value, life appreciation). We have just been discussing this matter and think we should take a hit in income and maybe move back just for this reason.

In fact I was unemployed when we got married and no immediate prospects for a job. I was living of my meager savings I had. She was not working either but studying. There was a child and we wanted more children. All of this without any prospect of financial security. You can't let your life depend on money. Nothing will ever happen when you do.

Ironically now that I have a decent job the financial insecurity is much greater than before. I for instance just got hit by a hospital bill despite the silly fact that I am supposed to have insurance. And now I will spend the rest of the week hanging on the fucking phone to try to sort this out. And at moments as these you realize that money is nothing. Nothing is less important than money. I just have to take a look at my family to realize that. It is just that we happen to live in a society where money is everything. And some societies are worse in this respect than others.

It is ugly.
I think very much the same way, monkey. Unfortunately, my wife has had financially insecurity when she was a child and now she always freak out when we have any problem that involves money (which is like... everything :bugeye: ). So... yeah. She lives in a living hell. I struggle to make her stop worrying so much, but maybe she lacks the maturity or something.

I dunno...

That was a nice post Spurious. Most excellent. I would suggest leaving the U.S. now, if you can. I'm not being sarcastic. I've spent a little time in Europe and I think that they have, today, a much healthier outlook on life, overall, than Americans. The whole feel of the places I visited was different, better, to me. Much less focus on money. Much more focus on family and enjoying life. I've wanted out of here for years. However, once you get used to somehthing, it is very hard to break old habits. Even if they are bad habits. Plus, I worry about money and not speaking the languages. :)
You can't always worry about money. You go crazy if you do that. You need to just relax and try to enjoy life. I think that's one of the keys of living an enjoyable life. Once I heard "if you can quit today, why not quit later"? The same I think of life. Carpe Diem, eh?

Unfortunately, both my wife and my dad always go crazy about money. It's very exhausting... :(

Yes. I'm seizing. I'm seizing.

I dont think that a road building worker can afford my makeup expenses, let alone my shopping. This is my one shot shortcut to get rich and enjoy life by doing nothing for it.

Typical modern capitalist thinking...