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View Full Version : Natural fix to Global Warming?
halo07guy 10-12-07, 04:02 PM We all know that Global Warming is happening, but it can be slowed down, correct? So my question is, could we slow it down enough so that Humans as a race evolve and adapt to the higher carbon levels? I know that we would have to slow it donw tremendously, but is it possible? I think such a thing might take about 50-60 generations, right?
Read-Only 10-12-07, 04:07 PM We all know that Global Warming is happening, but it can be slowed down, correct? So my question is, could we slow it down enough so that Humans as a race evolve and adapt to the higher carbon levels? I know that we would have to slow it donw tremendously, but is it possible? I think such a thing might take about 50-60 generations, right?
I believe that first and foremost you need to realize that the direct effect on humans is NOT of any concern. It isn't that we have any psysiological problems adapting to climate change, it's the effects it has on our food supply and infrastructure that's important. So "evolving" is not a part of the equation at all.
cosmictraveler 10-12-07, 04:54 PM By making a satellite that has lasers in it which make an "umbrella" of light which is placed in at a La Grange point would reflect some of the suns rays away from Earth making it cooler. Depending upon the amount of lasers used this could vary the amounts of light reflected making it cooler or warmer. It would be operated by photovoltaic powered by the sun itself which means there are very few moving parts to go wrong.
spidergoat 10-12-07, 05:15 PM A thin mylar sheet would be much more effective and less costly. Besides, there's still the problem of increased CO2 levels. CO2 can acidify the oceans and affects plant life, admittedly to it's benefit in some cases, but an overgrowth of algae and other plant life has it's own dangers.
We need to realize that we must move elsewhere in Solar System...beyond Earth. We must use greenhouse effect as a leverage for investing into space systems that will support human life.
Read-Only 10-12-07, 05:25 PM By making a satellite that has lasers in it which make an "umbrella" of light which is placed in at a La Grange point would reflect some of the suns rays away from Earth making it cooler. Depending upon the amount of lasers used this could vary the amounts of light reflected making it cooler or warmer. It would be operated by photovoltaic powered by the sun itself which means there are very few moving parts to go wrong.
Get real, CT!!! Do you have any idea of the sheer POWER it would take for something like that?!?!?!?!? Giga-giga-giga-gigawatts wouldn't even come close! We could never, ever produce enough PV cells to power monsters like that.
cosmictraveler 10-12-07, 05:27 PM Get real, CT!!! Do you have any idea of the sheer POWER it would take for something like that?!?!?!?!? Giga-giga-giga-gigawatts wouldn't even come close! We could never, ever produce enough PV cells to power monsters like that.
The laser satellite would only need minium power to keep a steady stream of laser light operating at low levels for its not the power that reflects its the cohesive light itself.
spidergoat 10-12-07, 05:29 PM When streams of light intersect, they don't reflect, rather they create interference patterns.
cosmictraveler 10-12-07, 05:31 PM When a laser, which is COHERENT light, is hit with regular sunlight it reflects that light , to a certain degree, away from the lased light.
spidergoat 10-12-07, 05:34 PM So if I had a rotating laser above my porch, it would create shade?
Here's a test, take a laser pointer and shine a light on it perpendicular to the stream, does it make a shadow?
cosmictraveler 10-12-07, 05:43 PM I'm not suggesting that it "casts a shadow" only that it will reflect away some of the sunlight that hits it. Can light penetrate light? If two light particles collided what will happen?
Read-Only 10-12-07, 05:50 PM The laser satellite would only need minium power to keep a steady stream of laser light operating at low levels for its not the power that reflects its the cohesive light itself.
That's not what I'm talking about. I mean just having the ability to simply produce a "sheet" of laser light. And I don't think it could possibly work anyway. Do you have ANY evidence at all thay even remotely suggests a wide-spectrum beam of photons are in any fashion 'deflected' by intersecting with a laser beam??????????????? If so, let's see it!!!!! (Because I think you're talking nonsense here.):bugeye:
spidergoat 10-12-07, 05:57 PM I'm not suggesting that it "casts a shadow" only that it will reflect away some of the sunlight that hits it. Can light penetrate light? If two light particles collided what will happen?
It depends on the polarity. If the plane of the wave is the same and the peak coincides with a trough, then they could cancel each other out. In practice, they create an interference pattern and continue on their way. It's the same principle that is used to create holograms.
cosmictraveler 10-12-07, 06:18 PM Now you're understanding me better. I'm sorry that I cannot explain myself well enough but I see you are doing it for me, thank you. :)
The effects of global warming need to accelerate! We need humans to invest in space, we need humans colonizing space, Mars, and beyond!
Nikelodeon 10-12-07, 06:22 PM The effects of global warming need to accelerate! We need humans to invest in space, we need humans colonizing space, Mars, and beyond!
Leave all the lights on folks! Keep your engines running! Burn the forests! Breed more cows!
Leave all the lights on folks! Keep your engines running! Burn the forests! Breed more cows!
YES YES YES!
madanthonywayne 10-12-07, 06:57 PM Now you're understanding me better. I'm sorry that I cannot explain myself well enough but I see you are doing it for me, thank you. :)
Perhaps, but your idea is still absurd. Simple mirrors made of a thin mylar type material would be much simpler and might actually work. If we put lasers in space, they'll be pointed towards the earth for use as weapons or part of an anti-missle defense system.
There are probably some there already. Who knows, maybe the whole GPS system is actually a network of lasers ready to take out the axis of evil in one fell swoop.
cosmictraveler 10-12-07, 07:28 PM Sad that you can only see lasers as weapons. I view them as very helpful devices that will help eliminate global warming one day if they are put into operation as I suggest.
madanthonywayne 10-12-07, 07:45 PM Sad that you can only see lasers as weapons. I view them as very helpful devices that will help eliminate global warming one day if they are put into operation as I suggest.
I only see lasers in space as weapons. On earth, they're quite useful for many things. They can correct your vision, remove tattoos, seal a torn retina, the list goes on.
Exhumed 10-12-07, 08:12 PM I'm highly worried how much draqon pollutes just on his own to further his agenda ;)
Read-Only 10-12-07, 10:43 PM Sad that you can only see lasers as weapons. I view them as very helpful devices that will help eliminate global warming one day if they are put into operation as I suggest.
You still haven't provided any proof that your crazy idea would even work as you claim. What's the matter? No proof to offer and not enough guts to admit it?:bugeye:
spuriousmonkey 10-13-07, 02:10 AM We all know that Global Warming is happening, but it can be slowed down, correct? So my question is, could we slow it down enough so that Humans as a race evolve and adapt to the higher carbon levels? I know that we would have to slow it donw tremendously, but is it possible? I think such a thing might take about 50-60 generations, right?
50 generations is quite a long time.
That said we do know one people that have genetically adapated to an environment low on oxygen. The tibetan people.
They found all kinds of adaptations in them that cannot be found in people that moved to the same environment, not even their offspring that was born there.
One remarkable advantage they had was that tibetan mothers produce babies at great altitude that were of normal birthweight. No other people that live at high altitude can do this. There is a direct correlation between birthweight and elevation of place of birth.
Moreoever, the tibetians respond differently to low oxygen environments. The natural response is to breath slower. Naturally that's not going to be good. You need more oxygen, not less. Tibetans breath faster.
Also tibetans have less haemoglobin in their blood. The oxygen transporting protein. Although it seems logical that more is better in low oxygen environments, it actually isn't.
Similarly we could possibly evolve to cope with higher CO2 levels, but that seems hardly the biggest problem of global warming. The destruction of the habitat as we know it will be more pressing. Or the immenent drowing for some for instance.
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